Is an aftermarket heatsink necessary if you're not overclocking the CPU?

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#1 Elian2530
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Question is: If I'm not going to be overclocking the CPU (Namely AMD Phenom 965 BE), do I need an aftermarket heatsink? I could just use the stock AMD heatsink correct?

Note: This build will contain a GTX 460 1GB overclocked. Will it strain the CPU or something to that effect?

I figured I could save $60 on a V8 if I didn't need it at all. What do you guys think?

Thank you in advance.

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Question is: If I'm not going to be overclocking the CPU (Namely AMD Phenom 965 BE), do I need an aftermarket heatsink? I could just use the stock AMD heatsink correct?

Note: This build will contain a GTX 460 1GB overclocked. Will it strain the CPU or something to that effect?

I figured I could save $60 on a V8 if I didn't need it at all. What do you guys think?

Thank you in advance.

Elian2530

Even with small overclocking, you don't need an aftermarket heatsink. I got my old E6750 from 2.66(stock) - 3.4GHz on stock voltage and the stock cooler kept it at about 25°c idle and ~65 on load.

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#3 ASRCSR
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If your not overclocking it and leaving the CPU at the same state at which you bought it then the heatsink they give you should be sufficient.

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#4 Elian2530
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[QUOTE="Elian2530"]

Question is: If I'm not going to be overclocking the CPU (Namely AMD Phenom 965 BE), do I need an aftermarket heatsink? I could just use the stock AMD heatsink correct?

Note: This build will contain a GTX 460 1GB overclocked. Will it strain the CPU or something to that effect?

I figured I could save $60 on a V8 if I didn't need it at all. What do you guys think?

Thank you in advance.

C_Rule

Even with small overclocking, you don't need an aftermarket heatsink. I got my old E6750 from 2.66(stock) - 3.4GHz on stock voltage and the stock cooler kept it at about 25°c idle and ~65 on load.

Nice. I didn't know you could stay with the stock heatsink and overclock. I guess I can be quite paranoid. :P Btw, that's a very impressive stock heatsink overclock!

If your not overclocking it and leaving the CPU at the same state at which you bought it then the heatsink they give you should be sufficient.

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Gotcha. Thank you guys. :)

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My stock intel fan was fine, just a bit noisy if your cracked up the RPM's.

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#6 Elian2530
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My stock intel fan was fine, just a bit noisy if your cracked up the RPM's.

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Sweet. I am reassured. I've been cutting here and there to see where I can save money. No need to throw away money I could spend on food or more games. I'm really satisfied with the extra time I spent to see where I can I save more. Initially, my build was 1,439.00. This is after taxes and shipping. Now it's down to $1,149.00 which makes me happy. :P
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#7 rakan959
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An aftermarket heatsink is never necessary. It just cools the CPU better than a stock heatsink, prolonging the life of the hardware. You could overclock your CPU without an aftermarket heatsink, although the temperatures would likely cause a lot of BSODs and drastically shorten the life of your CPU. I always recommend using an aftermarket heatsink with some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste because the lower temperatures will make your clocks more efficient, extend the life of your hardware, and cause your computer to be more responsive with less blue screens of death due to high temperatures. The thermal paste is just as important as the heat sink and Arctic Silver 5 is the most bang for your buck out there. I've seen drops as high as 10-15 degrees C after simply switching thermal paste because the stock paste that comes with a stock heatsink is so inefficient.

In short, it would do you well to buy a decent aftermarket heatsink and Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. If you don't want to spend a lot, even getting the thermal paste alone helps as it's around 5 dollars a tube which will last you 5 or 6 changes.

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#8 Elian2530
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An aftermarket heatsink is never necessary. It just cools the CPU better than a stock heatsink, prolonging the life of the hardware. You could overclock your CPU without an aftermarket heatsink, although the temperatures would likely cause a lot of BSODs and drastically shorten the life of your CPU. I always recommend using an aftermarket heatsink with some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste because the lower temperatures will make your clocks more efficient, extend the life of your hardware, and cause your computer to be more responsive with less blue screens of death due to high temperatures. The thermal paste is just as important as the heat sink and Arctic Silver 5 is the most bang for your buck out there. I've seen drops as high as 10-15 degrees C after simply switching thermal paste because the stock paste that comes with a stock heatsink is so inefficient.

In short, it would do you well to buy a decent aftermarket heatsink and Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. If you don't want to spend a lot, even getting the thermal paste alone helps as it's around 5 dollars a tube which will last you 5 or 6 changes.

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Thank you. I have already added the Arctic Silver 5 compound. I'm still going to leave the option of the V8 aftermarket heatsink for later. I've never had a gaming PC without one, but the last gaming PC I built I overclocked pretty much everything. With this new build, I do not plan to overclock at all. But if I do decide to overclock the CPU later down the road, I'll be sure to grab the V8.
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I'd stay away from Artic Silver 5. Its conductive so your screwed if you get any on your componets. I'd go witih Artic Cooling MX3. I use that and its non-conductive.

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#10 Elian2530
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I'd stay away from Artic Silver 5. Its conductive so your screwed if you get any on your componets. I'd go witih Artic Cooling MX3. I use that and its non-conductive.

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Really? Wow.. I had no clue about that. Thanks Clyde.
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#11 KHAndAnime
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I'd stay away from Artic Silver 5. Its conductive so your screwed if you get any on your componets. I'd go witih Artic Cooling MX3. I use that and its non-conductive.

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There's nothing wrong with Arctic Silver 5. How would you manage to get it on any components? It's not like you're pouring it on with a spoon. =\
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#12 Elian2530
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I was only able to search MX-2 on newegg.com. I guess I'll go with that one. Thanks again.
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#13 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I'd stay away from Artic Silver 5. Its conductive so your screwed if you get any on your componets. I'd go witih Artic Cooling MX3. I use that and its non-conductive.

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There's nothing wrong with Arctic Silver 5. How would you manage to get it on any components? It's not like you're pouring it on with a spoon. =\

Lmfao, a spoon. Ye, I use AS5, and I've never had any problems with it. It does a good job.
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There are numerous thermal pastes out there. Most of them are pretty good. AS5 is still a good paste but there are minor risks when using it. You are unlikely to get it on (or in) other components where it would cause a short across contacts. MX 2 is a pretty good paste. You can easily pick up a cooler down the road if & when you plan to overclock.
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If your not overclocking it and leaving the CPU at the same state at which you bought it then the heatsink they give you should be sufficient.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I'd stay away from Artic Silver 5. Its conductive so your screwed if you get any on your componets. I'd go witih Artic Cooling MX3. I use that and its non-conductive.

KHAndAnime
There's nothing wrong with Arctic Silver 5. How would you manage to get it on any components? It's not like you're pouring it on with a spoon. =\

i use a spoon to pour my thermal pastes D= seriously though, the "non-conductive" thing is only for safety reasons. Kinda like how you dont make the fill tube for your Water cooling loop hang over top your GPU, and fill the loop while your computer is on.. it's just to be safe :P
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#17 metacritical
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Arctic Silver 5 also takes far too long to burn in, why bother using it when MX-2/3 works straight away?
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#18 Nibroc420
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Arctic Silver 5 also takes far too long to burn in, why bother using it when MX-2/3 works straight away?metacritical
all pastes require a period of time to "set" it's usually 24h, but until then your temps might be off a bit.
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#19 metacritical
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Arctic Silver 5 takes 200 hours, my MX-2 was immediate. i never turn my PC off so Arctic Silver 5 was unworkable, which is why i wiped it off after a week and went to MX-2
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#20 rakan959
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Oh, also, you disappoint me OP. The Phenom II 965 Black Edition is the most overclockable processor AMD has on the market right now, in the same league as the new i7s. You can easily get it to 3.8 ghz stable, and 4.0 with a small voltage increase. When you're talking about something like a 0.6 ghz on a processor that has a 3.4 ghz stock clock, you're getting a clock increase of something like 17%, which is significant. Something like overclocking a graphics card will only give you slight increases in FPS, but by overclocking the CPU you'll have a faster more responsive system as well as significantly higher FPS in games like Crysis where the engine heavily relies on CPU. The 965 is a very powerful chip and it's truely being wasted if it's not overclocked in the computer.

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#21 NLahren
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no, it is not necessary, since stock coolers are ok
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#22 yellosnolvr
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Question is: If I'm not going to be overclocking the CPU (Namely AMD Phenom 965 BE), do I need an aftermarket heatsink? I could just use the stock AMD heatsink correct?

Note: This build will contain a GTX 460 1GB overclocked. Will it strain the CPU or something to that effect?

I figured I could save $60 on a V8 if I didn't need it at all. What do you guys think?

Thank you in advance.

Elian2530
idk about the 965s, but the 955s and the 1090t's are getting to 4.0ghz with stock cooling and they're doing fine.
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#23 HaLoMaStErJT
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It depends on how much you want to overclock. If you plan on overclocking a lot then you should get the cooler. It doesn't hurt to get a new cooler if if its a slight overclock.