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#1 jakes456
Member since 2011 • 1398 Posts

Looking for a new game and I was thinking about this one.

I only played the first and second like 12 years ago. I never liked them but I might be willing to give it another go. I hear people rave on about Civ 4, heard nothing good about 5.

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#2 bloodling
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I've played many Civ games, basically they are all more or less the same. They can be fun if you're really into it but it can get boring since the gameplay is really slow at the end.

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#3 Code135
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For me Civ 5 is better than Civ 4 ... maybe because of the hexagon tiles, instead of the usual ones, thus making me pay more map awareness of the surroundings and etc. Not to mention with DirectX 11 it looks beautiful, the game depth is as in all the other games in the Civ franchise - superb. Plus if you also get the expansion you will get addicted to Civ5 even more - since it adds religions, spies and the AI improvements. I myself had the chance to play a game with the expansion while I was at my friend's house but I am more than hyped for it.


With the Steam sale coming closer (hopefully) you may get the chance to see a Civ5 GOTY at some point for a low price, and (hopefully) the expansion as well, even though it came out last week :P

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#4 James00715
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I like Civ 4 & 5, but you have to like optimizing things to have fun with these games. I like to plan out where I am going to put each city plus all the buildings I will put in it and units I will make. Ultimately, this means trying to win the various victory types in the least number of turns on varying difficulty levels. Some play the game like a role-playing game, where they are the historical leader and try to make decisions as that leader would. Others play it because they like the little historical notes in the game.

I like how the maps are all random, so you never know what lands you will have near you and explore, or what AI players (civilizations) you can exploit (haha!). Every game I start I think, "This might be the one with perfect lands that I can break my Least Turns record." I guess I play the game like Chess, a life long pursuit to get better. I've only played the more recent ones though. Plan to get Civ 5 expansion at the first sale (33% off is good enough).

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#5 SouL-Tak3R
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Great game, just eats up time.

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#6 jakes456
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So Civ 4 or Civ 5?

I never really understood the combat. Is it auto resolve or whoever has the bigger army wins?

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#7 kris9031998
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So Civ 4 or Civ 5?

I never really understood the combat. Is it auto resolve or whoever has the bigger army wins?

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It autoresolves, and it depends on factors like the skills/xp of the army, tile placement (this may or may not be true) and the armies' health beforehand. If a fully leveled bowmen went against a new tank, then theres quite a bit of a chance that the bowmen will win. I recommend playing Civ 4 first, because honestly i liked it more. But...you also may like civ 5 more because it is a lot more streamlined. I personally did not like 5, but loved 4.
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#8 bloodling
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Well, Civ 4 is much cheaper so it's gonna be a much better deal.

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#9 pl4yer_f0und
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Hella good

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#10 jakes456
Member since 2011 • 1398 Posts

I will get it if It goes on sale. I don't really like the combat from what I have seen though.

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#11 DanielDust
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I will get it if It goes on sale. I don't really like the combat from what I have seen though.

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It's not about the combat, it's about everything else, even combat is a form of "management" not real combat.

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#12 scotty992
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I used to play it pretty patiently when I was like 10 lol its one of my favourite game series you gotta be able to cope with the slow pace and think about your running a country sometimes avoiding war is the best so if your just looking at the combat you will get bored.
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#13 skrat_01
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Yes. Civ 5 is damn good, particularly with the expansion and a few mods. Civ 4 is grand, and a lot of that is due to the patching and mods too. The differences boil down to preferences in many instances - Civ 5's major faults have largely been patched, the biggest separation is in design decisions (for most of the part).
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#14 rockydog1111
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Love the Civ games. Haven't played CIV V yet, but Civ IV was awesome.

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#15 jakes456
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I bought CIV 5 GOTY and so far I am disappointed.

The combat is not very exciting. What can I say it's auto resolve... People said the combat is much better in Civ 5 than 4. I don't know how auto resolve can be any different.

I just started a small campaign. I was going the peaceful route just to build my empire up. The computers never wanted to trade, attack others, or do anything. I ended up getting attacked by 2 people and barabians. I wiped them out which was just taking turns back and fourth.

Right now the game is very bland. Build farm here, build mine there, extend your roads to city, purchase another tile, do another upgrade. Next turn, next turn, next turn, etc.

Unless there is something I am not getting this game is extremely boring and overrated. Any Total War game is much better.

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#16 PurpleMan5000
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I bought CIV 5 GOTY and so far I am disappointed.

The combat is not very exciting. What can I say it's auto resolve... People said the combat is much better in Civ 5 than 4. I don't know how auto resolve can be any different.

I just started a small campaign. I was going the peaceful route just to build my empire up. The computers never wanted to trade, attack others, or do anything. I ended up getting attacked by 2 people and barabians. I wiped them out which was just taking turns back and fourth.

Right now the game is very bland. Build farm here, build mine there, extend your roads to city, purchase another tile, do another upgrade. Next turn, next turn, next turn, etc.

Unless there is something I am not getting this game is extremely boring and overrated. Any Total War game is much better.

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Civ is like playing a board game. If nobody is attacking anybody, you should try a harder difficulty setting. The combat is much better in Total War, but it is also easy to exploit the AI in Total War and win battles you really have no business winning based upon the units on the field. Civ is all about stats, attributes, and in Civ 5, unit placement. Both are excellent games.
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#17 DanielDust
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It's not overrated or boring, it's a TBS, a genre that is not for you, no, Total War isn't better, it does have combat tho, it's a lesser TBS with an option to use real time combat. Next time listen to people, no combat, lots of depth, you knew it won't go well from the start.
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#18 jakes456
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so I need to increase difficulty to make a little more interesting.

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I bought CIV 5 GOTY and so far I am disappointed.

The combat is not very exciting. What can I say it's auto resolve... People said the combat is much better in Civ 5 than 4. I don't know how auto resolve can be any different.

I just started a small campaign. I was going the peaceful route just to build my empire up. The computers never wanted to trade, attack others, or do anything. I ended up getting attacked by 2 people and barabians. I wiped them out which was just taking turns back and fourth.

Right now the game is very bland. Build farm here, build mine there, extend your roads to city, purchase another tile, do another upgrade. Next turn, next turn, next turn, etc.

Unless there is something I am not getting this game is extremely boring and overrated. Any Total War game is much better.

jakes456
You clearly like action games, so why did you even buy it? Its not a combat game. its a Civilization building game. Turn the difficulty up, playing on chieften doesnt cut it.
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#20 jakes456
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[QUOTE="jakes456"]

I bought CIV 5 GOTY and so far I am disappointed.

The combat is not very exciting. What can I say it's auto resolve... People said the combat is much better in Civ 5 than 4. I don't know how auto resolve can be any different.

I just started a small campaign. I was going the peaceful route just to build my empire up. The computers never wanted to trade, attack others, or do anything. I ended up getting attacked by 2 people and barabians. I wiped them out which was just taking turns back and fourth.

Right now the game is very bland. Build farm here, build mine there, extend your roads to city, purchase another tile, do another upgrade. Next turn, next turn, next turn, etc.

Unless there is something I am not getting this game is extremely boring and overrated. Any Total War game is much better.

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You clearly like action games, so why did you even buy it? Its not a combat game. its a Civilization building game. Turn the difficulty up, playing on chieften doesnt cut it.

I like building games and I just find it a bit bland. Feels like the computers do nothing.


I will turn up the difficulty. I am playing right now.

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#21 OutOfPoint
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Be glad. You are one of the few that is immune to the one-more-turn syndrom that has been plaguing millions of people.

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#22 Shadowhawk000
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You should of tried EU III or Crusader Kings II, both far superior to CIV V and cheaper to.
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#23 DanielDust
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You should of tried EU III or Crusader Kings II, both far superior to CIV V and cheaper to.Shadowhawk000
You can't handle the depth (AKA boring factor) of the new Civ that went for slightly more action than before so I'm just gonna recommend raw, generally flawed games with a lot more depth and lack of action....what?
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[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]You should of tried EU III or Crusader Kings II, both far superior to CIV V and cheaper to.DanielDust
You can't handle the depth (AKA boring factor) of the new Civ that went for slightly more action than before so I'm just gonna recommend raw, generally flawed games with a lot more depth and lack of action....what?

Lol exactly, i bet he would faint just by looking to the game map
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#25 Led_poison
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if you like 4x strategy games, then your going to love it. Civ5 has some fun scenarios like the Game of thrones from the community.

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#26 Mr_Strange
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In my opinion, Civ 4 is probably the best PC game ever. Civ 5 is a fine game - I would be thrilled if I made a game that good. But it doesn't hold up to 5. If Civ is a bit too slow / bland, maybe look into Endless Space, which just released on Steam recently. It's a similar broad mechanic, but it's got awesome space-themed elements, and manages to compact things a fair amount. Some people complain about the combat resolution, but I like it just fine.
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#27 PurpleMan5000
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Before Civ 5, any difficulty above the easiest provides a halfway decent performance from the AI if you are a beginner. I have found that you have to turn the difficulty up much higher in Civ 5 for the AI to become coherent, though.
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#28 pl4yer_f0und
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Civilization 4 is timeless, I still play it on and off to this day. It's a game of stats, where you have optimize and synergize your empire, so you need some brains to play! But it's charm and rewarding, not punishing, gameplay makes the game, in my opinion, one of the best ever made.

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#29 fenriz275
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The Civ are strategy games that make you think in the long term. If you're looking for something where you build a bunch of units and overwhelm your enemies in a few turns than Civ isn't for you. You can actually win a game of Civ without ever going to war at all.

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#30 ca5albert
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This might be the one with perfect lands that I can break my Least Turns record." I guess I play the game like Chess, a life long pursuit to get better. I've only played the more recent ones though. Plan to get Civ 5 expansion at the first sale (33% off is good enough).
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#31 Starshine_M2A2
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It's got a good rep. Been interested in that series for a while.