Is FEAR really scarier than DOOM 3?

No it isn't. People who say Doom 3 isn't scary are liars. You get a 5.1 surround sound system turn it up play at 1600 x 1200 resolution on ultra quality then you tell me anything that comes close. I wont listen to anyone who claims Doom 3 isn't scary unless there def/blind or something.

I also think Doom 3 engine surpasses any game out to date call me crazy but the in-door textures are beyond anything I've seen on FEAR or any other game to date. And I have a high-end PC.

[QUOTE="jamesgj"]

No it isn't. People who say Doom 3 isn't scary are liars. You get a 5.1 surround sound system turn it up play at 1600 x 1200 resolution on ultra quality then you tell me anything that comes close. I wont listen to anyone who claims Doom 3 isn't scary unless there def/blind or something.

I also think Doom 3 engine surpasses any game out to date call me crazy but the in-door textures are beyond anything I've seen on FEAR or any other game to date. And I have a high-end PC.

onemic

HL2 kills doom 3 in graphics in about every possible way.  

Source engine is great and I heard over 80% of people say that the source engine is better looking then Doom 3 engine. Source engine physics are beyond that of Doom 3. The source engine out door detail is great far better then Doom 3. But in Doom 3 I can't compair it in graphics on a in-door scale. The charactor models and HL2 are better then Doom 3 just in the first 20 minutes of the game. But when you get in those dark areas there's no compairison with any game yet. I remember when these games were being admired back when 6800Ultra came out and everybody said Doom 3 engine was better then Source not sure what happend.

I'd say so. DOOM 3 stops being scary after about 75% into the game. It just becomes so plainly obvious where the monsters are and you generally never stop fighting near the end so theres never much of a chance for a scary sequence.XaosII

I refuse to believe that for one reason. If you are playing the game at a low volume with max graphics I can see why. But when you hook up a 5.1 system and turn it up unless you are like some zombie or something it will make you jump a bit. Seems like 90% of people are Anti-Doom 3 at gamespot.

Hi there,

 well I think each game is in its own way a kind of scary. In DOOM3 you`ll often encounter monsters jumping out of the dark, that scare you, of you not prepared. I often read that people say monsters jump out of any dark corner in Doom3, and as Doom3 has alot of these, it would not be scary after three times...

I think it is still scary as you are not really prepared what kind of monster waits for you. Have you ever stood right in front of a decaying zombie?

F.E.A.R. plays with visions, the player has, so it a kind of scary, but IMHO I would prefer Doom3 because it made me jump out of my chair. But F.E.A.R. offers a highrise, with a claustrophobic tense, when you are sneaking thorugh the dark end empty offices, hallways, or even the parking lots...

Another game you could try is Condemned - take a look at this. This is a friend of mine, who is terribly scared by Condemend...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of3y1iDa0vE

cheers

Craven

Both games rely on 'things jumping out at you' for their scares - but in Doom 3 they're much more numerous (every room, more or less), and can actually harm you. Most of the things that suprise you in FEAR are just visions, and can't hurt you (except for those  phantoms, who completely ruined the game - we want more intelligent enemies, not mindless rushers!).

FEAR keeps you more off-guard (although you can tell when something will happen, as the radio starts picking up static), but I'd say that Doom 3 was more 'scary'.

DOom 3 scared me the second time through because I just couldn't remember all the scares, many are unscripted like zombies coming at you from behind. FEAR's scares are pure scripted, they scare you once and there are far fewer.nutcrackr

Doom 3 is scary but not if you play it for more than like 3 hours at once.  You get used to things jumping out at you and if just becomes the norm.  You need to play a little every night to get scared.  BTW FEAR has a cinematic horror style which makes it better IMO. 

they both scared the pants off me.

 Fear sort of gets undert your skin and creeps you our for days kinda deal.

Doom 3 makes zombies jump at you and you scream AHHHH for a brief second.

 There both quite fantastic though.

IMO most of Doom 3's scares come from behind, and feels generic.

FEAR is a bit scarier, with an intensity boost.

But HL2's Ravenholm takes them both down quick. Mmmm doing most of the level using Grav Gun=fun.

pfft seems people are getting scary mixed up , fear is more erie and oooo whats that around the corner or did i just see a ??

doom is more horror jumpy " holy S£$t wtf is that shooooot!! " mainly because most things come right at you and spawn for any where  which is good for the where are they gonna come form but eventually you'll get used to just turning around as soon and the sound cues up :P. fear is less predictable in terms stuf will just crash through doors and walls ,and more of a regular shooter . most combat is you against some guys with guns just a little sterile looking. im my opinon doom3 will have ur but clentching more often.

someone just told me fear is scarier than doom 3, is this true?ghost_recon26

Doom 3 is scary - play that without lights on and on max volume - lets test your heart how would he handle that? =)

F.E.A.R. isn't scary at all - it's just creepy that's all

[QUOTE="jamesgj"]

No it isn't. People who say Doom 3 isn't scary are liars. You get a 5.1 surround sound system turn it up play at 1600 x 1200 resolution on ultra quality then you tell me anything that comes close. I wont listen to anyone who claims Doom 3 isn't scary unless there def/blind or something.

I also think Doom 3 engine surpasses any game out to date call me crazy but the in-door textures are beyond anything I've seen on FEAR or any other game to date. And I have a high-end PC.

onemic

HL2 kills doom 3 in graphics in about every possible way.  

not 1 single chance

and btw what the hell that's got to do with the topic?

everything in Doom 3 is scripted buddy, the zombies always break through the walls right when you pass them

Doom 3 is scary but not if you play it for more than like 3 hours at once. You get used to things jumping out at you and if just becomes the norm. You need to play a little every night to get scared. BTW FEAR has a cinematic horror style which makes it better IMO.

joetira

Yes but nowhere near as scripted as fear, fear's scares are exactly the same every single time. Doom 3 scares involve monster closets but the way monsters attack and how monsters can sneak up on you is much different than FEAR. FEARs scares are just like a movie, Doom 3's are much more like a game. 

Ive also played them all with headphones on at some point, mostly to check audio quality.

My gf was freaking out next to me while i went through Ravenholm today.

For me, Doom 3 was scarier! As I progressed through the game, I ended up turning the sound lower and lower :D

F.E.A.R. was not as scary, it was more intriguing. It was definitely the better game overall though.

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="jamesgj"]

No it isn't. People who say Doom 3 isn't scary are liars. You get a 5.1 surround sound system turn it up play at 1600 x 1200 resolution on ultra quality then you tell me anything that comes close. I wont listen to anyone who claims Doom 3 isn't scary unless there def/blind or something.

I also think Doom 3 engine surpasses any game out to date call me crazy but the in-door textures are beyond anything I've seen on FEAR or any other game to date. And I have a high-end PC.

jamesgj

HL2 kills doom 3 in graphics in about every possible way.

Source engine is great and I heard over 80% of people say that the source engine is better looking then Doom 3 engine. Source engine physics are beyond that of Doom 3. The source engine out door detail is great far better then Doom 3. But in Doom 3 I can't compair it in graphics on a in-door scale. The charactor models and HL2 are better then Doom 3 just in the first 20 minutes of the game. But when you get in those dark areas there's no compairison with any game yet. I remember when these games were being admired back when 6800Ultra came out and everybody said Doom 3 engine was better then Source not sure what happend.

I agree with you. 

IMO most of Doom 3's scares come from behind, and feels generic.

 

FEAR is a bit scarier, with an intensity boost.

 

But HL2's Ravenholm takes them both down quick. Mmmm doing most of the level using Grav Gun=fun.

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[QUOTE="joetira"]

everything in Doom 3 is scripted buddy, the zombies always break through the walls right when you pass them

Doom 3 is scary but not if you play it for more than like 3 hours at once. You get used to things jumping out at you and if just becomes the norm. You need to play a little every night to get scared. BTW FEAR has a cinematic horror style which makes it better IMO.

nutcrackr

Yes but nowhere near as scripted as fear, fear's scares are exactly the same every single time. Doom 3 scares involve monster closets but the way monsters attack and how monsters can sneak up on you is much different than FEAR. FEARs scares are just like a movie, Doom 3's are much more like a game.

Yes Fear is easily scarier than Doom3

Hands down no doubt.

The mood that FEAR was able to setup was terrifying. I know people that cant even finish the game because it puts them on end too much. The atmosphere in that game was fantastic. The music and sounds made it 10x worse. Everything was well setup in that game to scare the pants off of you. And to the guy who said he cant play doom3 at night..... why? Thats fear you should be talking about there.... FEAR is EASILY scarier than doom3.

Doom3 was just a shooter, not scary at all.

[QUOTE="XaosII"]I'd say so. DOOM 3 stops being scary after about 75% into the game. It just becomes so plainly obvious where the monsters are and you generally never stop fighting near the end so theres never much of a chance for a scary sequence.jamesgj

I refuse to believe that for one reason. If you are playing the game at a low volume with max graphics I can see why. But when you hook up a 5.1 system and turn it up unless you are like some zombie or something it will make you jump a bit. Seems like 90% of people are Anti-Doom 3 at gamespot.

The reason why D3 isnt scray, EVEN WITH 5.1 surround with high volume and max graphics, its because it becomes obvious where the monsters are coming from... If you got really scared by Doom3 then you have issues... im sorry, cause the only games that are "scary" are the ones that are atmospheric and creepy... FEAR wasnt that scary after a while... except your mother in the game, she was a freak! FEAR stopped being scary after a few sightings of the "little girl"... after that its all jumping shooting slowmo and kill kill kill... same thing with Doom3, except there no slow mo...

But in the end i would say i would say FEAR is more creepy than Doom3...

Doom 3 and FEAR use different fear mechanisms.

Doom 3 uses the shadows and music excellently, and will make most people jump many many times.  Doom 3 is the kinda scary that freaks you out, but then you forget about it seconds later.

FEAR uses the other kinda fear...the kind that can haunt your nightmares.  FEAR has scenes of gore and sudden changes in graphics to gross and freak you out.  You will be seeing those dead faces for months afterwards, every time you sleep. (ok, so i'm exaggerating...!!!) 

My point is that while FEAR tends to have a more horror-gore approach to scaring people, Doom 3 has a more traditional 'jump out of the shadows and growl at you' kinda terror.

It's a case of Terror vs. Horror. 

That shallow statement is scary. I only played Doom 3 so I can't say which is scarier, but Doom 3 is a fairly un-nerving game. It didn't make me jump that many times, likely about a dozen times, but throughout the rest of the game I was always on my feet so I was never really comfortable.

Doom 3 and FEAR use different fear mechanisms.

Doom 3 uses the shadows and music excellently, and will make most people jump many many times.  Doom 3 is the kinda scary that freaks you out, but then you forget about it seconds later.

FEAR uses the other kinda fear...the kind that can haunt your nightmares.  FEAR has scenes of gore and sudden changes in graphics to gross and freak you out.  You will be seeing those dead faces for months afterwards, every time you sleep. (ok, so i'm exaggerating...!!!) 

My point is that while FEAR tends to have a more horror-gore approach to scaring people, Doom 3 has a more traditional 'jump out of the shadows and growl at you' kinda terror.

It's a case of Terror vs. Horror. 

Smudge_Smill

Excellent assessment!!!! Yeah, it really depends. For some people Doom 3 was in fact scarier and more nerve racking than playing F.E.A.R.

DOom 3 scared me the second time through because I just couldn't remember all the scares, many are unscripted like zombies coming at you from behind. FEAR's scares are pure scripted, they scare you once and there are far fewer.nutcrackr

many of the scares are unscripted??????? All the things that are supposed to be scary are scripted, like when you open a door and an enemy jumps out at you, or when you walking down a hall and a grate pops up and an enemy pops out at you, or when you're looking at something and something pops out at your face. Doom 3 is not scary at all, it uses the same tactics over and over again, and it's predictable. The unscripted events you talk about like being surrounded by zombies wasn't scary either.

By the way, i'm a doom 3 fan, i loved the mindless shooting and thought it was fun, but it just was not scary at all, it was just like any other fps. Oh, and no, i didn't play it with 5.1 surround sound but with headphone. I'm pretty sure either way it wouldn't make a difference.

I haven't played fear besides the demo, so i don't have any comment on that, but i'd assume it's scarier than doom 3 

fear is a relative emotion, we all experience it in different ways - so this entire thread is like arguing over what is the better colour

personally, i didn't find either game scary - but of the two i think doom 3 takes it by a neck... f.e.a.r relied too heavily on shock horror technique, making the player jump at things appearing from nowhere - and that's it... it's derivative and predictable and annoying

doom 3, though - it had a full blown horror mechanic based on vulnerability... you can see or you can shoot, and often could not do both at the same time... and that means you always have one big vulernability... if you can't see the enemy, you can't kill it, and if you can see it but can't shoot it, you can't kill it... it's not the best horror mechanic i've ever experienced, but it taps into the player's sense of self-preservation (the source of fear), which is the best way to evoke fear

f.e.a.r, though - it's got nothin' ...the atmosphere is pretty bad, the imagery isn't disturbing and there's never really a sense of personal danger, yeah, like doom 3 it'll try to make you jump - and maybe it will, and your heart will get pumping for a bit... but shock is a long, long way from fear, and f.e.a.r never manages to get into genuine self-preservation inspired fear that doom 3 nearly manages to brush against

personally, i think they're both bad as horror games, but i'd put doom 3 far above f.e.a.r in terms of horror quality from an analytical perspective, but yeah, fear is an emotion and people experience it differently, there isn't a scarier because it's all relative 

I've got to go with Doom 3 as the scarier game.

First off, the main gameplay is the scary part of Doom. You never know what creature is going to jump out of what shadow at what time. You are constantly on edge. I used to play that game at night with the lights out and the sound pumped. I dreaded playing it, it scared me that bad.

F.E.A.R for the most part is typical run and gun, blasting generic bad guys. It's only until you reach certain points in the level that the mood changes, the lights dim, and the sounds intensify. In Doom its the norm. I used to hate opening a door in Doom just to see a wide open industrial area with machines whirring away casting weird lights on dark corners. You just knew something was out there waiting to jump at you, (usually from behind...the bastards...lol)

They both were scary, but Doom has the edge.

someone just told me fear is scarier than doom 3, is this true?ghost_recon26

No it isn't. People who say Doom 3 isn't scary are liars.jamesgj

lol. DOOM 3 IS NOT scary...i AM NOT lieing.army-of_one

You guys are kidding, right? What kind of questions and answers are these? These games are both intended to be scary--that's a simple fact. Which ever one is more succesful is a matter of taste, plain and simple. Clearly, some people find FEAR terrifying, and others think it's just a little grim. Some think Doom3 is freaky as hell, and others think it's a cake walk.

Maybe next time, you could just set up a poll and ask what people's opinions are--"which do you think is scarier?", or something, rather than asking for the "facts." Then you could avoid all this dogmatic fanboy noise.

Doom 3 is a lot scarier, loved fear too, but fear didnt give me any real scares because the things that try to scare you in fear cant normally hurt you, so why be scared!!!

And Doom 3 graphics beats the crap out of Hl2 graphics, much more detail in doom 3 graphics, just look at a hell knight in doom 3 coming at you with all the lights bouncing off it while slime comes out of its mouth, still extremely impressive by todays graphics. But oh well thats another topic all that :)

Oh please! F.E.A.R. can be little scary in the beginning but after a while the game becomes so predictable. You tend to hear guards before you see them so you know more or less where they are plus they're not even scary at all. The only "scary" thing in F.E.A.R. is the little girl that charges at you out of nowhere but that's about it.