Is it just me or is firefox become an unreasonable resource hog??

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#1 Gambler_3
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Today I was playing zynga poker and my CPU usage was hitting 45%. :?

Switched to chrome and the usage is between 10-20%. I always knew firefox uses more resources but this is just ridiculous. The recent easter eggs of google also run much more efficiently on chrome but this was obvious and not much mozilla could do about it.

I think I'll be switching now, I have used firefox for years but gotta give way to whats better I guess.

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#2 NailedGR
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Which version are you using? Also chrome is a botnet.

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#3 Gambler_3
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Which version are you using? Also chrome is a botnet.

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The latest version FF8.

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#4 NailedGR
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there was a patch recently, do you have that installed?

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#5 Gambler_3
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there was a patch recently, do you have that installed?

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Everything is automatically updated, I havent manually installed anything.

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#6 Slow_Show
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So was it a repeatable 45%, or is this a "Firefox once hit 45%, and since data is the plural of anecdote we can safely say this is a major issue with Firefox" thing? Firefox is known for being more resource intensive (especially if you've loaded up on add-ons), but it's generally a memory-use issue.

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#7 Gambler_3
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So was it a repeatable 45%, or is this a "Firefox once hit 45%, and since data is the plural of anecdote we can safely say this is a major issue with Firefox" thing? Firefox is known for being more resource intensive (especially if you've loaded up on add-ons), but it's generally a memory-use issue.

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No it was consistently at around 45%. I checked the task manager, firefox was taking 43%.

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#8 NailedGR
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

So was it a repeatable 45%, or is this a "Firefox once hit 45%, and since data is the plural of anecdote we can safely say this is a major issue with Firefox" thing? Firefox is known for being more resource intensive (especially if you've loaded up on add-ons), but it's generally a memory-use issue.

Gambler_3

No it was consistently at around 45%. I checked the task manager, firefox was taking 43%.

Keep it open and use it a lot, even after reboots. monitor overall usage.

Also what add-ons are you using?

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#9 Slow_Show
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No it was consistently at around 45%. I checked the task manager, firefox was taking 43%.

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What I mean is whether it would hit 45% every time you used Firefox or played Zygna poker (or visited similarly demanding webpages), or was this just a "I played Zynga poker once and noticed the CPU was running really high so I rage-uninstalled it?" issue? It's not typical Firefox performance either way, but the difference is the former would be more of an issue with your system (which would mean yeah, by all means abandon Firefox for Chrome) while the latter would indicate it was just a bug/glitch.

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#10 NailedGR
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Also your CPU may be holding you back. Perhaps it is time for an upgrade?

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#11 Tezcatlipoca666
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I don't know about its use of system resources, but I recently moved away from FF8 to Chrome because it took 1-2 minutes to start up (right after Windows loads) while Chrome, with more extentions than FF had, boots in 2-5 seconds.

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#12 Gambler_3
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I only noticed it today as far as poker is concerned but I have seen how much more performance firefox needs extensively running the barrel roll and other easter eggs on google. I will compare again the usage in facebook poker to be sure.

Keep it open and use it a lot, even after reboots. monitor overall usage.

Also what add-ons are you using?

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Ad-block plus, nothing else. I have it on chrome as well.

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#13 Tezcatlipoca666
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Also your CPU may be holding you back. Perhaps it is time for an upgrade?

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Oh yeah, for sure. His CPU is holding back his browsing! :lol:

[spoiler] good one... [/spoiler]

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#14 Gambler_3
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Also your CPU may be holding you back. Perhaps it is time for an upgrade?

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lol not sure if serious, it's a 3.2Ghz quad core. And it's not that I am experiencing any lag or freezes but just that firefox seems glaringly inefficient.

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#15 adamosmaki
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I changed about 1 year ago when firefox started acting up ( to chrome if course )

Also what is this casual Zynga poker you talk about :P ? Go back to battlefield

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#16 Gambler_3
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Also what is this casual Zynga poker you talk about :P ? Go back to battlefield

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Haha. :P

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#17 NailedGR
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Are you GPU accelerating?

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#18 Gambler_3
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Are you GPU accelerating?

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Flash hardware acceleration off for both browsers.

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#19 Gambler_3
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But the browser HW acceleration is on in firefox.

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#20 en3sge
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I had exactly the same problem as you. Open task manager and check your active processes.

If you see something called Rapport or Rapport Service (or something like that) then that is most likely the root of your problems.

Its a little piece of security software that gets downloaded to your pc when you bank online. Made firefox crawl and chrome wasnt that much better tbh.

Check it out and see if its running. If so, go to tools and remove the program.

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#21 kaitanuvax
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I would switch back to Firefox 3.6. I've stuck to the 3.xxx versions even though they had started releaseing 4,8, whatever version. It's always been stable for me and the addons for Firefox (AIOS, Ant, Fireshot, Cookie Manager, Adblock, One click search engines) keeps me from switching to Chrome. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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#22 Tezcatlipoca666
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I would switch back to Firefox 3.6. I've stuck to the 3.xxx versions even though they had started releaseing 4,8, whatever version. It's always been stable for me and the addons for Firefox (AIOS, Ant, Fireshot, Cookie Manager, Adblock, One click search engines) keeps me from switching to Chrome. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Firefox 9 was released today :P

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#23 Gambler_3
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AARGGGG I am not liking the text on chrome, if I increase the size for certain places then some other text gets ugly big.

Like the gamespot forum text is so small but if I increase text size then the gamespot home page and many other webistes become ugly.

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#24 NailedGR
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Are you increasing the text size via ctrl+mousewheel?

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#25 Gambler_3
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Are you increasing the text size via ctrl+mousewheel?

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No but the text settings.

The zoom in feature of chrome is also much more limited than firefox it seems, it has much bigger increments.

I also want to ask another thing. I have this addon in chrome which automatically defaults every youtube video to 720p as soon as it's loaded, never 1080p and only lower than 720p if not available.

With firefox however those add-ons dont seem to work with FF8, it's really annoying to manually put every video to 720p. The options in youtube are pretty limited. Do you know any such add-on which works with FF8? I have been using chrome for youtube for a while now which has been a motivation in making it my default browser. If I can have it on FF as well then maybe I'll give this a re-think.

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#26 deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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You've gotta upgrade to a 3960X dude.

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#27 Gambler_3
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Seems like I acted prematurely, it is now showing the same CPU usage on chrome. I guess zynga poker is inefficient.

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#28 Tezcatlipoca666
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Seems like I acted prematurely, it is now showing the same CPU usage on chrome. I guess zynga poker is inefficient.

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Is it flash based? 'Cause flash is a resource hog.

That's why hardware acceleration is great :P

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#29 Blade8Aus
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Seems like I acted prematurely, it is now showing the same CPU usage on chrome. I guess zynga poker is inefficient.

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Oh good, you came to this conclusion on your own :P

*doesn't contribute to thread*

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#30 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Seems like I acted prematurely, it is now showing the same CPU usage on chrome. I guess zynga poker is inefficient.

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Is it flash based? 'Cause flash is a resource hog.

That's why hardware acceleration is great :P

Yes flash based. I have HA off because it causes that one second freeze in youtube when switching to full screen. Does it happen with you on youtube with HA?

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#31 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Seems like I acted prematurely, it is now showing the same CPU usage on chrome. I guess zynga poker is inefficient.

Gambler_3

Is it flash based? 'Cause flash is a resource hog.

That's why hardware acceleration is great :P

Yes flash based. I have HA off because it causes that one second freeze in youtube when switching to full screen. Does it happen with you on youtube with HA?

Yeah, there is a "jump" of sorts. It doesn't bother me too much though because it is so brief (~.5s).

I also usually open a video, pause it, let it load, then go full-screen and press play. So I don't encounter the jump often anyway.

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#32 Gambler_3
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Yeah, there is a "jump" of sorts. It doesn't bother me too much though because it is so brief (~.5s).

I also usually open a video, pause it, let it load, then go full-screen and press play. So I don't encounter the jump often anyway.

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Ya I lived with it for a long time, it's just that when I noticed how little CPU usage it takes to run 720p video I turned it off. I never use 1080p youtube because my internet connection is too slow for that(third world country so dont laugh). :P

I have generally disliked hardware acceleration. I used to use it for HD movies with powerDVD but some movies can act weirdly with HA like this movie the pianist would run noticeably jerky with HA. I turned it off with powerDVD as well. With a quad core CPU I feel we dont really need it.

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#33 Gambler_3
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Chrome cant remember my preferred selection of disqus, I always want to keep it "best rating" and it remembers so on firefox but not chrome. I have to manually put it to best rating everytime. :(

Any way around this?

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#34 Silicel1
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I use FF and have no issues I only use two addons which is adblock and a youtube downloader, I also have chrome with adblock which is not as good as the one for FF, also on chrome pages load slower for me then on FF. One thing is for sure FF uses losts of memory if it can(I dont mind it since memory is the cheapest part you can get).

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#35 Legit101
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Yup, Firefox is a crazy resource hogger.
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#36 kaitanuvax
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Really? I've only seen it use 300MB tops.

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#37 commander
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i've seen firefox plugin container use insane amounts of ram (like hundreds of mb) , sometimes it uses too much cpu for my liking too (since it 's only a browser). Sometimes it hangs too or crashes but still i find it more stable than internet explorer. I used google chrome once and i didn't like it, so i pretty much put up with it's quirks. if it really bothers you that much, you can always buy a apple and use mac os 10. But i'd rather kill myself before doing that.