IS it true that pc games are slowly gonna die out cuz of piracy?:(

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#1 nicolelux
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i hope not i really reeally hope not!! im a die hard pc gamer!! and i sure im not the only one.

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#2 samuraiguns
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Nope, If Crysis can sell 1.5 million copies PC gaming is not dead.

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#3 entropyecho
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You've been talking to exclusive console gamers I gather :P

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#4 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Nope, If Crysis can sell 1.5 million copies PC gaming is not dead.

samuraiguns
It sold a lot more than that, that figure was from ages ago. And it's on Steam now :P But yeah, PC games are gonna die because of piracy. And the human race is going to become extinct because of swine flu. And the world is going to end in 2012 anyway, so it's all good.
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#5 nicolelux
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yeh thats alot of copies... but piracy does play a big problem for the pc plateform game makers...

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#6 johnny27
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I sure hope not altough its still going strong for me but i feel like i got into pc gaming a bit to late the good all days of pc gaming 1998-2005 i missed out on :(
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#7 redbaron3
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PC gaming! Dieing for 20+ years and still getting stronger by the day!...
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#8 nicolelux
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but then i guess there is still alot of honest people that purchase thier games.. so maybe the honest ways out the dishonest.... and yes it was a hardcore console gamer that said that

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#9 nicolelux
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and that is sooo true late 90 to 05 wow did they make some damn good games... im been kinda dissappointed with thier verity of games latey... maybe cuz im really not into any sort of shoot em up games.. the honest true is that i just suck at em
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#10 osan0
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PC gaming is immortal. even if all the big publishers dropped PC support, PC gaming would still continue to tick along. as long as people are using PCs, some are always goign to tinker around with it for gaming purposes. hell thats how PC gaming started....most of the big names learned their trade as a small PC dev. what piracy hurts is big bidget exclusives. it becomes alot less tempting to make a crysis if piracy is very high. it wont mean that were going to see no more PC games...but PC exclusives and games built secifically for the PC are and will become very rare things. when it comes to big games from big names with big budgets...multiplat is the future, for better or worse. although piracy isnt the sole reason for this happening...it is a factor.
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#11 HenriH-42
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PC gaming is not dying. It can technically never die, as anyone can make a game on PC.

Though I do think that the "golden era" of PC gaming is behind us. IMO, it was 1988-2004. 1988 because we got sound cards and 2004 because that was the last year where there were many AMAZING PC games released (think Half-Life 2, Far Cry, Doom 3, Vampire Bloodlines, Thief 3 etc.)

I hope that we will have another golden era sometime soon... Consoles are becoming more and more like PCs, and we'll see what happens if OnLive becomes successful... Something is gonna change though, for better or worse? I don't know yet.

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#12 nicolelux
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That is true that consoles are becoming more like computers. but for now a good computers has power over the console anyday... its funny me and my boyfriend get into full out fights over this... Im a pc gamer and he is an xbox... and not to mention on his 4th xbox they are junk 3 red rings of death in a row come on... pc all the way. but i really hope our pc games stay ahead of the game that is what intreaged me into pc.... when sims 2 was on xbox i played it and loved then i played it on my pc and my fricken mind was blown totaly diffrent game!!! but now the games on pc are the same on console and it ticks me off grrr.

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#13 name294
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maybe one day, they will develop a secureRom good enough to prevent piracy, but i doubt it.
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#14 strobeshow
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that should sum it up.

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#15 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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not if you keep buying games from good developers.
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#16 STAR_Admiral
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I don't support piracy, but the harm it causes to the developers really is small..
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#17 Terranwolf09
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I don't support piracy, but the harm it causes to the developers really is small..STAR_Admiral
...which is only speculation. It actually cuts deeply into their income.
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#18 IMaBIOHAZARD
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PC gaming! Dieing for 20+ years and still getting stronger by the day!...redbaron3

that pretty much sums it up. Waiting for PC gaming to die of anything short of the destruction of the internet (and even THEN) is like waiting for Duke Nukem Forever to be released......which may or may not EVER be released now.

Piracy is a problem, sure...but if Stardock, one of the biggest companies this side of Valve (in PC terms) can survive without DRM at ALL, then there's no way that Piracy is really killing our beloved platform.

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#19 dnuggs40
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No, it won't kill PC gaming...but it is changing/influencing it...not only on how publishers protect their games (and to the extremes that they will go), but also on what they will publish (risk).
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#20 johnny27
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I don't support piracy, but the harm it causes to the developers really is small..STAR_Admiral
ppl like u are also part of the problem take demigod how can a 85% piracy rate be called small?
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#21 Rickylee
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I don't support piracy, but the harm it causes to the developers really is small..STAR_Admiral

Support for this nonsense please. Where's your data? I have no doubt that the developers inflate their numbers but not to the degree you just did by saying the damage is small. Just with the draconian DRMs out there alone makes piracy a large problem if not for anyone else but us, the PC gamer. This quote is sig quality.

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#22 nicolelux
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well lets just support out pc plateform and hope for the very best is that all one person can do?

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#23 nicolelux
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well lets just support out pc plateform and hope for the very best is that all one person can do?

nicolelux
our instead of out hehe
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#24 bzwax
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The PC will have Blizzard and indie developers. And Blizzard will probably stop being PC exclusive in a few games. So if you don't consider an industry living on those dead, then no, PC gaming wont die.

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#25 nicolelux
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The PC will have Blizzard and indie developers. And Blizzard will probably stop being PC exclusive in a few games. So if you don't consider an industry living on those dead, then no, PC gaming wont die.

bzwax

im thinking pc won't die but im wondering if they are gonna bust out some above and beyond games hmmmm just putting it out there

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#26 chandu83
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Its definitely going to change. I suspect we will see less exclusives, late releases, no demos and so on.
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#27 wurd
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PC isn't the force it used to be basically because the console market is so big these days and MAC is growing more popular because of Microsoft's constant bad press. Many people think PC's are made by Microsoft.. which made me laugh! Anyway once Surface comes out gaming is going to change in a big way. You heard it here first ;)
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#28 rmfd341
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No, it won't kill PC gaming...but it is changing/influencing it...not only on how publishers protect their games (and to the extremes that they will go), but also on what they will publish (risk).dnuggs40
This guy said something good, DRM and other forms of protection, limited installs, companies are playing hard against piracy, but it doesn't quite work, every game gets cracked... PC game won't die...
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#29 GPAddict
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We need more Female PC Gamers, the hotter the better! If you want, you can be our Morgan Webb! :)

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#30 explasiv
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NO, and if it happens Gamng Will DIE!

so here's the rule. NO PLANTS= NO ANIMALS NO ISREAL = NO WAR NO OXYGEN = NO CREATURES NO PC GAMING = NO GAMING

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#31 nicolelux
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We need more Female PC Gamers, the hotter the better! If you want, you can be our Morgan Webb! :)

GPAddict

im a female pc gamer... im not sure what ur talking bout tho LOL

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#32 nicolelux
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yeh and they went nutz with spore trying to protect it and it was soo anoying wheni bought it grrrrr. but i don't blame em... but then yet again they went to all these measures to protect that game and it was the number 1 pirated game of 2008 so yeh whatever they throw at the pirates they crack the game anyways. i think it will be a on going war. but hopfully pc remains surpreme.

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#33 GPAddict
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[QUOTE="GPAddict"]

We need more Female PC Gamers, the hotter the better! If you want, you can be our Morgan Webb! :)

nicolelux

im a female pc gamer... im not sure what ur talking bout tho LOL

You know you want to! Don't deny your DESTINY!!!!!

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#34 Gamartto
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i hope not i really reeally hope not!! im a die hard pc gamer!! and i sure im not the only one.

nicolelux
You are NOT a hardcore PC gamer if think that PC gaming is dying, see sig.
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#35 Forerunner-117
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[QUOTE="nicolelux"]

i hope not i really reeally hope not!! im a die hard pc gamer!! and i sure im not the only one.

Gamartto
You are NOT a hardcore PC gamer if think that PC gaming is dying, see sig.

You are NOT a hardcore PC gamer if you have to censor the "F" in "STFU". :P
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#36 thusaha
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No, PC gaming isn't gonna die.

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#37 nicolelux
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[QUOTE="Gamartto"][QUOTE="nicolelux"]

i hope not i really reeally hope not!! im a die hard pc gamer!! and i sure im not the only one.

Forerunner-117

You are NOT a hardcore PC gamer if think that PC gaming is dying, see sig.

You are NOT a hardcore PC gamer if you have to censor the "F" in "STFU". :P

your a mean person

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#38 Drosa
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PC gaming may not be dying but it certainly could be in a lot better shape. Aren't you tired of developers and distributors using patches as a development tool?

I'm not talking about the patches that address issues a few people are having or tweaking multiplayer to keep it fresh and fun. I'm talking about the ones that plug the big holes in the titles that were released way too early. For example, Grand Theft Auto 4, Temple of Elemental Evil, Gears of War, and Unreal Tournament 3 are a few titles that were all in horrid condition upon releases. Some of them, like Temple of Elemental Evil, still don't run well even after being patched. GTA 4 and GoW were about a year old when they got to us. Those things should have run flawlessly.

What good are slightly better graphics if you have to effectively climb Mt. Everest upside down and naked to get the game to run?

It gotten to the point I might buy one or two titles year at full price. The rest are used, in the bargin bin, or clearance rack.

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#39 Royas
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i hope not i really reeally hope not!! im a die hard pc gamer!! and i sure im not the only one.

nicolelux

To quote Yahtzee: Short answer, no. Long answer, nooooooooooooooooooo!

Seriously, piracy has been around since the first computer games. I don't really believe it's nearly the level of problem some publishers would have us believe, to be honest. It just seems to be the scapegoat when a publisher/developer decides they would rather concentrate on the lucrative console market, or when they have to come up with an excuse for their lousy game selling poorly. PC gaming is pretty healthy at this point, and I expect it to remain so for some time to come.

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#40 thenidhogg
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I think piracy is effecting it in someway, and not a good way.

But that's a whole different can of worms.

I forsee games being ported to the PC becoming the norm.

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#41 rzepak
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Piracy has always been around and I think the number of pirates is pretty steady. Kids start pirating and many people that finally start earning money stop pirating, it all balances out. Yeah piracy is damaging especially to smaller studios but it will never kill PC gaming.

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#42 Crimsader
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If PC games die, RTS games developers will make a profit of it, cuz RTSs are best played on PC. And plus you think that if they don't make PC games they'll stop piracy? Please :D You can get your cracked games for XBox360 too... Maybe the Riddick's strategy was a good hit. They make a game with very strong protection - if someone really want the game, he's gonna buy it. And the illegal users will have to wait about month for the pirated versio nto come out :)

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#43 pigandforks
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not if you keep buying games from good developers.paullywog

Agree

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#44 simba20061
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I dont think piracy will hurt the gaming industry, no one has ever mentioned that its killing the console sector and they are just as ripe with piracy with things ssuch as modchips and being able to download every single game that is released, piracy on pc is more difficult the people that do "hack" the games have to literrally rewrite the programmers codes etc, where on console its just a case of copying the disk pretty much,

I think its just another overexaggeration by the media about the state of things, I buy my games, but i have also downloaded some admittedly, but they were to try before i buy as they are so dam expensive, maybe if games were released cheaper, they would sell more and piracy wouldnt be an issue, because if you could go an buy a new released game at say £10-15 then you wouldnt bother with dowloading it as at the end of it having an original is better for all the feautres etc work properly, the games get reduced down in price a few months after they are released anyways, so why not start it at that price! Reckon they wouldfly off the shelves!

Wow, didnt mean to write that much lol, Keep Gaming People and ENJOY........

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#45 iki080
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not by a long shot.

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#46 mysterylobster
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that should sum it up.

strobeshow

That would be nice if it wasn't for the fact that the last game's developer just went out of business. Whoops!

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#47 Cherub_Rock
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Piracy has always been around and I think the number of pirates is pretty steady. Kids start pirating and many people that finally start earning money stop pirating, it all balances out. Yeah piracy is damaging especially to smaller studios but it will never kill PC gaming.

rzepak

Yea, that's pretty much how I cycled. I went from renting cartridge games and swapping out the chips, to modding every console I owned to play burned games, to adding hard drives to Xboxs/PS2s, and of course, torrents. That was when I was in my teens and working hospitality industry jobs, though. I eventually ebayed/gave away all of my consoles, and now I just buy PC games.

I hope that I have a direct effect on PC gaming surviving. I'll keep purchasing the games that I like. If worse comes to worse, I'll always have emulators to play with; and frankly, I'd be satisfied with that.

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#48 dbd333
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Not only are games easy to attain illegally, but think of the hardware costs just to run the most current games. Makes developers want to re-think if they want a great looking game or a good looking game that plays nice and can run on single core systems.

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#49 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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The PC will have Blizzard and indie developers. And Blizzard will probably stop being PC exclusive in a few games. So if you don't consider an industry living on those dead, then no, PC gaming wont die.

bzwax
Blizzard are PC exclusive? I thought that Starcraft and Warcraft 3 both came out on the N64 and Sega Saturn respectively? And didn't Diablo come out on the original Playstation? Then there was the whole Starcraft Ghost thing...

[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]I don't support piracy, but the harm it causes to the developers really is small..Rickylee

Support for this nonsense please. Where's your data? I have no doubt that the developers inflate their numbers but not to the degree you just did by saying the damage is small. Just with the draconian DRMs out there alone makes piracy a large problem if not for anyone else but us, the PC gamer. This quote is sig quality.

I think you missed his point. He never said that there aren't large amounts of games pirated, what he meant (at least what I got from it) is that economically the harm of piracy to developers is really small. Ie: It doesn't harm the sales much, since most of the people who pirated the game would never have bought it even if they COULDN'T pirate it.
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#50 dnuggs40
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"since most of the people who pirated the game would never have bought it even if they COULDN'T pirate it."

That is simply not true. Do you honestly believe that if tomorrow piracy was impossible all those millions of people who pirate games would just stop playing games completely? Nobody claims that every instance of a game being pirated is a lost sale, but if you honestly believe there isn't a significant amount of lost sales overall you are seriously mistaken.