Is starcraft 2 really that good?

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#1 NanoMan88
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While I admit the first starcraft was an excellent rts game and one of the greatest ever made, is starcraft 2 just trying to cash in on the first one? Like most of the units are the same with a few additional ones thrown in there, the mechanics of the game hasnt changed in anyway. So really this is more of an expansion which Blizzard plans to charge alot for, I also think there have been many other RTS games that has surpassed starcraft already. but Blizzard still has not decided to even add another faction or something.

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#2 millerlight89
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Well I was never really into the first, I just entered the PC realm to late. I just watched my buddy play it though, and yes I do know I can not get a feel for a game by just watching, however it does look like a good bit of fun.
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#3 KHAndAnime
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Starcraft 2 is much different than Starcraft 1. Starcraft 2 is based more around chokepoints this time around and the layers of strategy are completely different. Some things are the same, but much has been changed. It's 2 steps forwards, 1 step backward in the SC formula.
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#4 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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I don't like it that much, but not because its a bad game, just not my type.
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#5 NanoMan88
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Starcraft 2 is much different than Starcraft 1. Starcraft 2 is based more around chokepoints this time around and the layers of strategy are completely different. Some things are the same, but much has been changed. It's 2 steps forwards, 1 step backward in the SC formula.KHAndAnime

Does it really demonstrate 10 years worth of work? IMO no

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#6 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Starcraft 2 is much different than Starcraft 1. Starcraft 2 is based more around chokepoints this time around and the layers of strategy are completely different. Some things are the same, but much has been changed. It's 2 steps forwards, 1 step backward in the SC formula.NanoMan88

Does it really demonstrate 10 years worth of work? IMO no

It hasn't been worked on for 10 years bro.
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#7 RichardStallman
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Yes, it's really that good.
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#8 longtonguecat
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[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Starcraft 2 is much different than Starcraft 1. Starcraft 2 is based more around chokepoints this time around and the layers of strategy are completely different. Some things are the same, but much has been changed. It's 2 steps forwards, 1 step backward in the SC formula.KHAndAnime

Does it really demonstrate 10 years worth of work? IMO no

It hasn't been worked on for 10 years bro.

Yeah, it'd be a cash in if they'd been trying to make a sequel straight away. :P

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#9 Lach0121
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If there were a few games that were actually developed/polished for 10 years, we would actually be blown away by most of what it has to offer, compared to what we are getting today.

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#10 StopThePresses
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

Does it really demonstrate 10 years worth of work? IMO no

longtonguecat

It hasn't been worked on for 10 years bro.

Yeah, it'd be a cash in if they'd been trying to make a sequel straight away. :P

You know Blizzard, always pushing out shovelware for quick cash-ins.
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#11 StopThePresses
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If there were a few games that were actually developed/polished for 10 years, we would actually be blown away by most of what it has to offer, compared to what we are getting today.

Lach0121

I don't know about that.

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#12 dakan45
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A friend got acess to the beta and i played a bit at his computer. Some things have been changed but its still a pretty good game. Not amazed though as much as with the first one.
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A friend got acess to the beta and i played a bit at his computer. Some things have been changed but its still a pretty good game. Not amazed though as much as with the first one.dakan45
But thats just the MP isn't it? The SP is meant to have unlocks, the ship u can explore in between missions etc.
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#14 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]A friend got acess to the beta and i played a bit at his computer. Some things have been changed but its still a pretty good game. Not amazed though as much as with the first one.biggest_loser
But thats just the MP isn't it? The SP is meant to have unlocks, the ship u can explore in between missions etc.

Hmm, yeah to be honest i am not a big rts fan for the last 7 years i have completly given up on the genre. But i remember that starcraft had an amazing sp compaign and i spent more time to the sp rather the sp. Oh well, i hope this time the sp will also be good because i was not imrpessed much by the mp since it was never my kinda thing on starcraft.
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#15 maxblais
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It's really similar to SC1, they kept the same game mechanics and strategies that made SC1 a perfect RTS, they also added a bunch of fun ones also, destroyable paths, unit that can climb cliff, etc.

I'm playing the Beta and the new Battle.net is awesome so far, the ladder system is lot of fun and you can play people from your skill level in matter of seconds.
Loving it and the game isn't even finished !

Try the beta you just have to preorder a game (60$) and you get a key to signup :)

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#16 Wakanoid
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I think it's really fun. :D. I am really enjoying it and placed my pre-order today.
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#17 Shadowhawk000
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]A friend got acess to the beta and i played a bit at his computer. Some things have been changed but its still a pretty good game. Not amazed though as much as with the first one.biggest_loser
But thats just the MP isn't it? The SP is meant to have unlocks, the ship u can explore in between missions etc.

SP is generally just a Add-on. MP is where the game is at.
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Since we can only judge by the Beta (I have a sneaking that th sp campaing might be incredibly good tho), I must say that when you first see, it, you will without a doubt know it is Starcraft.

It plays the same, and have the same focuses, but when you look deeper into the mechanics, you will see that it is a very different game alltogether, and altho it might have the feel of Starcraft, it deploys a different set of tactics.

Ive mainly playied Marines in the beta, and most of the changes to them I really like, and I love the somewhat anime inspired esthetics of them.

Theyve changed alot in my view, they are a far better defendable race now, and I really like the additions to thier units, The thor in particular is a nice new take on thimgs, since Tarran players often went straight for air in SC1, due to the chance they might enter drawn out games, and since the battlecruser was the only really effective top tier Terran unit, so its nice to have the option of focusing on ground.

Its still as fast and frantic, chokepoints and walkarounds seem to be more of a focus in this game, but the base expansion is still in.

I havent really tryied Zerg or Protoss yet, but it might just be all of the factions that have some way better defensive strats now, altho from what Ive seen it is not the case... The factions are really well ballanced tho, and that is always nice ^^

But man... the sound, oh the sound... Im glad they kind of stuck with the roots.

So it is SC, For me it is likely better then SC1, it just sucks a bit that I prefer more tactical, and complex rts games, That is my personal taste tho, and has nothing to do with the quality of SC2...

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#19 LordAinav
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The MP beta is awesome so far, thanks blizz for making a new competitive RTS for us to play. :)

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#20 sleepingzzz
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BETA is actually not showing you very much of the game. If you look at some of the videos you will see a lot more detail to the maps as well as options in SP.

The BETA is giving me the impression that it's by far the best game coming out this year.

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#21 Roland123_basic
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no, its not REALLY THAT GOOD.... but yes, it is a good game. a leap forward for RTS games however, no... not even close. we are talking old school RTS gameplay with above normal tactical possibilities.
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#22 Roland123_basic
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BETA is actually not showing you very much of the game. If you look at some of the videos you will see a lot more detail to the maps as well as options in SP.

The BETA is giving me the impression that it's by far the best game coming out this year.

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you have extremely low standards then.... wow. if a rehash of old SC gameplay with a few more tactics and dated by still attractive graphics makes "game of the year" for you.... sheesh... doesnt take much. yes i have played SC2, yes im in the beta.... ill log in right now and play anymore to prove it, so please dont go there.
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#23 KalDurenik
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In my opinion yes its that good... Im very happy that they did not decide to go the same path as DoW2 did and instead they still have base building and so on.

Overall the MP is fast with alot of action. There is alot of strats / build orders and the most fun is when you see someone try something completly new and kick your ass ^^...

When they add chat channels Starcraft 2 is most likely going to be a game that is going to be active for years and years to come...

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#24 Lemonio
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it is very fun

i have played over 60 multiplayer games in a week

can't stop playing it

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#25 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

BETA is actually not showing you very much of the game. If you look at some of the videos you will see a lot more detail to the maps as well as options in SP.

The BETA is giving me the impression that it's by far the best game coming out this year.

Roland123_basic
you have extremely low standards then.... wow. if a rehash of old SC gameplay with a few more tactics and dated by still attractive graphics makes "game of the year" for you.... sheesh... doesnt take much. yes i have played SC2, yes im in the beta.... ill log in right now and play anymore to prove it, so please dont go there.

Don't make bets around this topic, you might lose everything you have ;), it's by far the most expected game this year and it's by far the best we're going to see, it's the perfect year to release it because it assures an easy GOTY, which wouldn't be the case next year.
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#26 kodyoo
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I'm really enjoying the beta so far. Best game ever? no. One of the best RTS i have played? yes.

But it obviously has a lot of old RTS elements seeing as it still has to stick to the first starcraft concept. But has enough new stuff to keep you interested and the gameplay is very rewarding.