Is the first Crysis still the pinnacle of game graphics?

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#1 chadwick1343
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The game has been out a long time but I was wondering if it is still the tops. I've heard the sequels have had to tone down the graphics a notch ?

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#2 Leafboy102
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It's still graphics king, there's been some competitors like Metro 2033 but there hasn't been a new "Can it run ____" yet :P. And Crysis 2 will only be downgraded for consoles, if anything the PC version will have be the same if not more pretty and better optimized.
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This really depends on who you ask. I think Crysis and Crysis Warhead (same engine) have the most detailed and overall realistic outdoor environments. The are some weaknesses, and IMO it lacks the "sharpness" that you see in some other game engines. Some people would say that Metro 2033 looks better, because of the DX11 effects, high polygon counts, and crisp textures (in some areas). I personally thought that Far Cry 2 was the 2nd best-looking game on the market when I played it a couple of years ago.. in terms of the graphics convincing me of where I was. I've personally always been really impressed by the graphics in many games using the Unreal 3 engine (PC versions in particular). I'm sure there are a few other contenders out there.. but yeah, Crysis is still considered the overall graphics benchmark by a LOT of gamers.

As far as Crysis 2 goes, we'll have to wait until it's released to be sure about where it will stand graphically. If Crytek managed to simultaneously make the game look decent and run well on consoles, AND make it the best-looking PC game to date, I'll be really impressed.

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#4 IvanElk
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With the mod (forgot what something that improved the look of forests and such), it absolutely is. Being the hardest game to run and the best looking one are two different things. If games are poorly optimized most likely even if it takes a 2000$ rig to run it on high is still going to look bad. To be fair the engine in Crysis 1 wasn't exactly optimized either, but they sacrificed optimizing in favor of better graphics.
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#5 chansaet
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[QUOTE="IvanElk"]With the mod (forgot what something that improved the look of forests and such), it absolutely is. Being the hardest game to run and the best looking one are two different things. If games are poorly optimized most likely even if it takes a 2000$ rig to run it on high is still going to look bad. To be fair the engine in Crysis 1 wasn't exactly optimized either, but they sacrificed optimizing in favor of better graphics.

Even without mods no game comes close. It's mainly bc most games are mutliplat.
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umm yes and probly will be for a while to come, most games are multiplat now and look worse, as well as the fact that the level of detail in the game is beyond rediculous. we might be waiting for half life 3 to dethrone it

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umm yes and probly will be for a while to come, most games are multiplat now and look worse, as well as the fact that the level of detail in the game is beyond rediculous. we might be waiting for half life 3 to dethrone it

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Valves going to be needing a new engine, or a seriously, seriously advanced coded Organge Box Source Engine to thwart the CryEngine.
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#8 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="tmgwarrior72"]

umm yes and probly will be for a while to come, most games are multiplat now and look worse, as well as the fact that the level of detail in the game is beyond rediculous. we might be waiting for half life 3 to dethrone it

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Valves going to be needing a new engine, or a seriously, seriously advanced coded Organge Box Source Engine to thwart the CryEngine.

Wasn't there a story going around not too long ago that they've been working on a new, "next-gen" engine? One that will probably be used for Half-Life 3?

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#9 masterfarticus
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Yeah, pretty much.

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#10 dakan45
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Well, it has the most detailed textures with the best physics.....ok there is red faction guirella, so no. Still it has the most detailed photoreallistic graphics. So yeah.
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#11 osan0
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yea pretty much. there are more demanding games out there that also do really impressive things like empire total war. metro 2033 is also technically more advanced in some areas. but in terms of high graphical fidelity on a very large scale i dont think crysis has been beaten yet. its physics system also remains very formidable. i just hope a game does come out that clearly puts it to the sword and soon. hopefully crysis 2 will pull it off but i have my doubts. screenshots are doing it no favours but i keep hearing there just console shots so hopefully crysis can finally be retired as a benchmark title next year.
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#12 ionusX
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its certainyl still demanding.. but is it the king.. well i say its a lot ahrder to make that call. plenty of games now burn your gpu to its bleeding edges

shattered horizons

pt boats: pacific gambit

battlefield bad company 2

farcry 2

etc.

its not alone at the top for certain, id probably put my money on shattered horizons to be more demanding but put crysis as a better game than it n the que.

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I suppose it is. In terms of scale and what I can do to alter my environment within the game, FSX for me.

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#14 Brendissimo35
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For outdoor environments, yes. It does it on a bigger scale than anything on console and looks way better doing it. Metro 2033 looks better indoors however.

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#15 dakan45
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For outdoor environments, yes. It does it on a bigger scale than anything on console .Brendissimo35

I can name ton of outdoor games that have bigger enviroments on consoles. Come on, crysis maps are not that big.

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#16 Daytona_178
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I think it still is.

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#17 Brendissimo35
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[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

For outdoor environments, yes. It does it on a bigger scale than anything on console .dakan45

I can name ton of outdoor games that have bigger enviroments on consoles. Come on, crysis maps are not that big.

I suppose that's fair. Just Cause 2 is bigger etc.

What I'm trying to say is that Crysis outdoors still looks better than anything on the market, and it does it on a very large scale. Crysis' maps are pretty big for the amount of detail in them.

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#18 dakan45
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"Very large scale" Well, there are crapload games with bigger maps. I guess we can rule out fallout 3, gta iv and assasin creed 2 as clearly inferior in graphics. But far cry 2 really comes close on graphics it it has pretty big maps. There is also arma 2. Honestly the proper comparison is that crysis has the very large scale maps for a linear level based fps.(By that i mean that you go from point a to point b till you finish the level, not that the game is linear) But as a sanbox game that you can go wherever you want, lets just say there are many others with much larger scale.
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#19 robokill
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when you see crysis at it's potential it's not even close.
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#20 ChubbyGuy40
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Vanilla/Unmodded - Crysis Warhead, Metro 2033, Crysis, Battlefield: Bad Company 2. In that order.

Modded - CRYSIS. It's the only answer.

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#21 kozzy1234
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Metro on PC with Dx11 is the only game that is up there with Crysis imo.

Some parts even look better then Crysis but its alot mroe linear compared to Crysis.

Both very good looking games!

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Yup.
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"Very large scale" Well, there are crapload games with bigger maps. I guess we can rule out fallout 3, gta iv and assasin creed 2 as clearly inferior in graphics. But far cry 2 really comes close on graphics it it has pretty big maps. There is also arma 2. Honestly the proper comparison is that crysis has the very large scale maps for a linear level based fps.(By that i mean that you go from point a to point b till you finish the level, not that the game is linear) But as a sanbox game that you can go wherever you want, lets just say there are many others with much larger scale.dakan45
All those games (except Arma 2) use that crappy "box" streaming thing where it only streams the level in immediate view and distance of the player. Crysis levels are all loaded at once. So no shooting at a target 300m away and having the rounds do nothing.

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#24 Elann2008
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Yeah, Crysis is just way ahead of it's time. From time to time, I like playing Crysis just to mess around. It's one of those games where you can start up and tear **** up. Beautiful looking game.
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#25 CellAnimation
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Metro on PC with Dx11 is the only game that is up there with Crysis imo.kozzy1234
Agree 100%, after playing Metro 2033 using SLI'd 480s I've got to say I think it looks a lot better than Crysis.
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]"Very large scale" Well, there are crapload games with bigger maps. I guess we can rule out fallout 3, gta iv and assasin creed 2 as clearly inferior in graphics. But far cry 2 really comes close on graphics it it has pretty big maps. There is also arma 2. Honestly the proper comparison is that crysis has the very large scale maps for a linear level based fps.(By that i mean that you go from point a to point b till you finish the level, not that the game is linear) But as a sanbox game that you can go wherever you want, lets just say there are many others with much larger scale.blues35301

All those games (except Arma 2) use that crappy "box" streaming thing where it only streams the level in immediate view and distance of the player. Crysis levels are all loaded at once. So no shooting at a target 300m away and having the rounds do nothing.

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#27 Heyhuub
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Well, it has the most detailed textures with the best physics.....ok there is red faction guirella, so no. Still it has the most detailed photoreallistic graphics. So yeah.dakan45

If you look at mods like Xtreme particle Chaos i'd say Crysis' physics are definetly more advanced than those of Red Faction. Red Faction does indeed have more impressive building destruction, but in overall physics i think Crysis still nails it.

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#28 Amigro
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I think Metro 2033 looks amazing, but like someone already pointed out, it is very linear. The thing that makes Crysis so graphically impressive to me is the amount of detail in a large open environment.

No one has mentioned the STALKER series yet, especially with the Complete mods. I think CoP could give Crysis a run for its money.

All in all, it is amazing that a game that came out 3 years ago is still arguably the best looking game out there. Definitely goes to show that consolization of games is holding the PC market back.

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#29 SF_KiLLaMaN
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My question is this, if Crysis is still the best looking game, why are all the recent games coming out graphically inferior but require better PC hardware to run? Why can I play Crysis on high, but I can barely play Bad Company 2 on Low? You would think that if Crysis is the best looking game, it would have the highest requirements...
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#30 Treflis
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It is, but that's pretty much all it's got in my opinion.
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My question is this, if Crysis is still the best looking game, why are all the recent games coming out graphically inferior but require better PC hardware to run? Why can I play Crysis on high, but I can barely play Bad Company 2 on Low? You would think that if Crysis is the best looking game, it would have the highest requirements...SF_KiLLaMaN
Games are moving to multithreading more, using a decent quad core CPU bad company 2 performs far better than crysis. And other games are just poorly coded.
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#32 Lithos_
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You know, Crysis is meh. Ok, graphics exceptionally well done and all, etc., etc.

But there are TONS of games out there that I find more appealing. And by "more appealing", I mean more beautiful, even if it is because of the artistic elements. Bioshock, Conviction, Metro 2033 (hands down) and a true parade of other games.

Crysis is common ground. Uninspired. Bland. Insipid.

One word: Meh.

Ok, now you can stone me.

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#33 ionusX
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id say shattered horizons is now top of the pile a gtx 480 BARELY get playable fps topped out at 1680 x1200 never mind 1920x1080 :P and thats only partial aa and af a 580 gets closer to 30ish at 1080p still not maxed out yet.

there is no SINGLE card solution for shattered horizons yet.

id call it the beast to beat.

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My question is this, if Crysis is still the best looking game, why are all the recent games coming out graphically inferior but require better PC hardware to run? Why can I play Crysis on high, but I can barely play Bad Company 2 on Low? You would think that if Crysis is the best looking game, it would have the highest requirements...SF_KiLLaMaN
thats really weird. i get 38-47ish fps on crysis very high 1080p 2xaa, but i get like 90+ on bc2 all high 4xAA and 16xAF. must be something up with your drivers or something. the game runs so much better than crysis on any system.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]My question is this, if Crysis is still the best looking game, why are all the recent games coming out graphically inferior but require better PC hardware to run? Why can I play Crysis on high, but I can barely play Bad Company 2 on Low? You would think that if Crysis is the best looking game, it would have the highest requirements...yellosnolvr
thats really weird. i get 38-47ish fps on crysis very high 1080p 2xaa, but i get like 90+ on bc2 all high 4xAA and 16xAF. must be something up with your drivers or something. the game runs so much better than crysis on any system.

He has a dual core, granted he should be able to run it on medium maybe, but you can run the game very well without a quad or high end overclocked dual.
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[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]My question is this, if Crysis is still the best looking game, why are all the recent games coming out graphically inferior but require better PC hardware to run? Why can I play Crysis on high, but I can barely play Bad Company 2 on Low? You would think that if Crysis is the best looking game, it would have the highest requirements...ferret-gamer
thats really weird. i get 38-47ish fps on crysis very high 1080p 2xaa, but i get like 90+ on bc2 all high 4xAA and 16xAF. must be something up with your drivers or something. the game runs so much better than crysis on any system.

He has a dual core, granted he should be able to run it on medium maybe, but you can run the game very well without a quad or high end overclocked dual.

well the thing is, my core 2 duo e6400 @ 2.13ghz still played bad company 2 better than crysis.
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[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] thats really weird. i get 38-47ish fps on crysis very high 1080p 2xaa, but i get like 90+ on bc2 all high 4xAA and 16xAF. must be something up with your drivers or something. the game runs so much better than crysis on any system.

He has a dual core, granted he should be able to run it on medium maybe, but you can run the game very well without a quad or high end overclocked dual.

well the thing is, my core 2 duo e6400 @ 2.13ghz still played bad company 2 better than crysis.

i had an e4600 @2.8ghz that could barely meet 30fps on medium.
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#38 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]My question is this, if Crysis is still the best looking game, why are all the recent games coming out graphically inferior but require better PC hardware to run? Why can I play Crysis on high, but I can barely play Bad Company 2 on Low? You would think that if Crysis is the best looking game, it would have the highest requirements...ferret-gamer
thats really weird. i get 38-47ish fps on crysis very high 1080p 2xaa, but i get like 90+ on bc2 all high 4xAA and 16xAF. must be something up with your drivers or something. the game runs so much better than crysis on any system.

He has a dual core, granted he should be able to run it on medium maybe, but you can run the game very well without a quad or high end overclocked dual.

I get around 45-50 FPS on Low @ 1440X900 on Bad Company 2.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"]"Very large scale" Well, there are crapload games with bigger maps. I guess we can rule out fallout 3, gta iv and assasin creed 2 as clearly inferior in graphics. But far cry 2 really comes close on graphics it it has pretty big maps. There is also arma 2. Honestly the proper comparison is that crysis has the very large scale maps for a linear level based fps.(By that i mean that you go from point a to point b till you finish the level, not that the game is linear) But as a sanbox game that you can go wherever you want, lets just say there are many others with much larger scale.blues35301

All those games (except Arma 2) use that crappy "box" streaming thing where it only streams the level in immediate view and distance of the player. Crysis levels are all loaded at once. So no shooting at a target 300m away and having the rounds do nothing.

Yeah, it doesnt exactly working like that It refreshes LOD textures with higher detailed ones. Just like arma 2. Rounds do hit as long as the weapons range is good enough.

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#40 Barbariser
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Technically speaking, it's the most impressive graphical achievement around. The quality of the visuals is a matter of opinion, but I thought the combination of hyperrealistic artstyle + detail was amazing.

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#41 mitu123
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You know, Crysis is meh. Ok, graphics exceptionally well done and all, etc., etc.

But there are TONS of games out there that I find more appealing. And by "more appealing", I mean more beautiful, even if it is because of the artistic elements. Bioshock, Conviction, Metro 2033 (hands down) and a true parade of other games.

Crysis is common ground. Uninspired. Bland. Insipid.

One word: Meh.

Ok, now you can stone me.

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A modded crysis is KING. I just saw some mods my god its amazing.
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#43 Filthybastrd
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Metro 2033 is the closest competitor and that game is a corridor shooter that lacks in physics and destructability (why does it even have a physx option??).

Crysis manages this non scripted:

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Crysis grenades seem to contain no shrapnel but vast amounts of pressure.

Edit: Images shown to portray non scripted physics as opposed to scripted destruction, not to show Crysis from it's best looking side.

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#44 ColdA3Ice
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The day i ran crysis with all the bells and whistles turned up to the max on 1920 *1080 i new i had an absolute beast.
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#45 cabose38
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Having played maximum Crysis, and maximum Metro(DX10 before I got my new rig) I think that Metro looks better even with DX10.

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#46 Jermone123
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Crysis does look damn good not gonna lie, but IMO there are a lot of parts of Crysis that are not that sexy. I am not crazy about the frost levels. Pretty much the last half of Crysis Warhead is meh to me in Crysis standards. The beginning level in Crysis warhead I think is the best. Especially when you get to the coast. It looks pretty damn amazing all those palm trees with the ocean in the back round and the sun rays beeming down.

However, I agree with the previous poster that Crysis does lack a certain sharpness that other games have. Call me crazy, but I think L4D2 has beautiful graphics and very good sharpness. Battfield bad company can look down right silly (in a good way). Sometimes when I play BFBC2 I feel like im in a war movie. Mass effect has pretty damn good graphics at times.

I just bought Just Cause 2 for 7 bucks off Steam and that game looks crazy good at times. Cruising around in a jet looking at all that land. The sheer size of this game is mind boggling to me! Being able to see sky scrappers from "miles" away is verry impressive IMO.

So yea... At its best Crysis is the best, but I think there are many games that look on par as good as Crysis when Crysis is not looking its best. Lol idkif that even made sense. Anyway bring on Crysis 2!!!

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You know, Crysis is meh. Ok, graphics exceptionally well done and all, etc., etc.

But there are TONS of games out there that I find more appealing. And by "more appealing", I mean more beautiful, even if it is because of the artistic elements. Bioshock, Conviction, Metro 2033 (hands down) and a true parade of other games.

Crysis is common ground. Uninspired. Bland. Insipid.

One word: Meh.

Ok, now you can stone me.

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I agree, its so bland, yes it has an amazing graphics engine but the graphics are bland and so are the enviroments they build with. The second however looks better so far.
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Crysis does look damn good not gonna lie, but IMO there are a lot of parts of Crysis that are not that sexy. I am not crazy about the frost levels. Pretty much the last half of Crysis Warhead is meh to me in Crysis standards. The beginning level in Crysis warhead I think is the best. Especially when you get to the coast. It looks pretty damn amazing all those palm trees with the ocean in the back round and the sun rays beeming down.

However, I agree with the previous poster that Crysis does lack a certain sharpness that other games have. Call me crazy, but I think L4D2 has beautiful graphics and very good sharpness. Battfield bad company can look down right silly (in a good way). Sometimes when I play BFBC2 I feel like im in a war movie. Mass effect has pretty damn good graphics at times.

I just bought Just Cause 2 for 7 bucks off Steam and that game looks crazy good at times. Cruising around in a jet looking at all that land. The sheer size of this game is mind boggling to me! Being able to see sky scrappers from "miles" away is verry impressive IMO.

So yea... At its best Crysis is the best, but I think there are many games that look on par as good as Crysis when Crysis is not looking its best. Lol idkif that even made sense. Anyway bring on Crysis 2!!!

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I think the "sharpness" lacks for you is due to the game's Anti aliasing system not working on the foliage. It is a inconvinience, crysis looks absolutely amazing when you use supersampling on it to get rid of the aliasing on teh foliage, and probably achieves the "sharpness you yearn for.

Here is an example of what i am talking about:

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[QUOTE="Lithos_"]

You know, Crysis is meh. Ok, graphics exceptionally well done and all, etc., etc.

But there are TONS of games out there that I find more appealing. And by "more appealing", I mean more beautiful, even if it is because of the artistic elements. Bioshock, Conviction, Metro 2033 (hands down) and a true parade of other games.

Crysis is common ground. Uninspired. Bland. Insipid.

One word: Meh.

Ok, now you can stone me.

dakan45

I agree, its so bland, yes it has an amazing graphics engine but the graphics are bland and so are the enviroments they build with. The second however looks better so far.

Oh, the second caught me off guard... I'm foreseeing a true epic coming our way.

Well, I hope so.

The "be the weapon" trailer is outstanding. Another one that made my eyes pop out was the new Mass Effect 3 trailer: I even decided to gather strength and finally finish ME 1 (resuming right after Virmire, level 32) in order to play the sequel, that is already downloaded and installed here on Steam, waiting for me to finish the first one.

Sorry for insisting on the off-topic, but my sin on ME 1 was facing it like an RPG; now I'm playing it like what it really is, an outstanding science fiction action game with RPG elements, and I'm having a blast! :)

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[QUOTE="Jermone123"]

Crysis does look damn good not gonna lie, but IMO there are a lot of parts of Crysis that are not that sexy. I am not crazy about the frost levels. Pretty much the last half of Crysis Warhead is meh to me in Crysis standards. The beginning level in Crysis warhead I think is the best. Especially when you get to the coast. It looks pretty damn amazing all those palm trees with the ocean in the back round and the sun rays beeming down.

However, I agree with the previous poster that Crysis does lack a certain sharpness that other games have. Call me crazy, but I think L4D2 has beautiful graphics and very good sharpness. Battfield bad company can look down right silly (in a good way). Sometimes when I play BFBC2 I feel like im in a war movie. Mass effect has pretty damn good graphics at times.

I just bought Just Cause 2 for 7 bucks off Steam and that game looks crazy good at times. Cruising around in a jet looking at all that land. The sheer size of this game is mind boggling to me! Being able to see sky scrappers from "miles" away is verry impressive IMO.

So yea... At its best Crysis is the best, but I think there are many games that look on par as good as Crysis when Crysis is not looking its best. Lol idkif that even made sense. Anyway bring on Crysis 2!!!

ferret-gamer

I think the "sharpness" lacks for you is due to the game's Anti aliasing system not working on the foliage. It is a inconvinience, crysis looks absolutely amazing when you use supersampling on it to get rid of the aliasing on teh foliage, and probably achieves the "sharpness you yearn for.

Are you just using AA? Cuz I dont have AA turned on at all when I play crysis : /