core 2 duo vs quad core, I have read some places that intel is going to lower theyre prices but
Im wondering if my oc:ed e6700 is going to be fine for the newxt say 2 years, or am I going to be sucking unless I get a quad core.
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core 2 duo vs quad core, I have read some places that intel is going to lower theyre prices but
Im wondering if my oc:ed e6700 is going to be fine for the newxt say 2 years, or am I going to be sucking unless I get a quad core.
you'll be fine for the next 2 years or so, get a quad-core by then.core 2 duo vs quad core, I have read some places that intel is going to lower theyre prices but
Im wondering if my oc:ed e6700 is going to be fine for the newxt say 2 years, or am I going to be sucking unless I get a quad core.
badgerslut
I'd wait it out and get a Core 2 Duo. I have Core2 Duo running in my machine and it works very well. I'm sure if you have money to burn, you should get the quad but you know it will drop in price sooner or later.Boba_Fett_3710get ANOTHER Core 2 Duo?
[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'd wait it out and get a Core 2 Duo. I have Core2 Duo running in my machine and it works very well. I'm sure if you have money to burn, you should get the quad but you know it will drop in price sooner or later.jfelisarioget ANOTHER Core 2 Duo? Oh, my bad, I thought they were asking whether they should get a Core 2 Duo or Quad. I was under the assumption they had neither.
[QUOTE="ZBoater"]A 1000w PSU IS overkill for a Pentium 2 based computer :roll: Quad-Core = Overkill for now, not anymore in about 2 years time. nooooo!!! how about all my fancy led lights, phase change and 12 hard disks!!! nnoooo!!!!!!!! j/k there is no compelling reason to jump ship now, especially since the quad-cores are going to get more affordable in time. when they become available to a bigger audience bracket, not just the enthusiast market, you can see that as a sign of needing a quad-core.There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to PCs... :Dis the quade core over killSSJBen
[QUOTE="SSJBen"][QUOTE="ZBoater"]A 1000w PSU IS overkill for a Pentium 2 based computer :roll: Quad-Core = Overkill for now, not anymore in about 2 years time. nooooo!!! how about all my fancy led lights, phase change and 12 hard disks!!! nnoooo!!!!!!!! j/k there is no compelling reason to jump ship now, especially since the quad-cores are going to get more affordable in time. when they become available to a bigger audience bracket, not just the enthusiast market, you can see that as a sign of needing a quad-core. well if u have extra cash u could donate some for homeless kids .......There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to PCs... :Dis the quade core over killjfelisario
seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.white45e
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
The simple fact is that although Dual core is GOOD, Quad is BETTER. :D
[QUOTE="white45e"]seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.ZBoater
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
The simple fact is that although Dual core is GOOD, Quad is BETTER. :D
[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="white45e"]seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.jfelisario
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
The simple fact is that although Dual core is GOOD, Quad is BETTER. :D
im sorry if i offended you and made you feel like you wasted your money which you did... because by the time a quad core will give any kind of performance boost urs will be inferior and outdated...
pwned
well i dont know where you live but in canada quad cores will cost me about $1300 with tax and everything about $1500.... so yeaaaa your wrong there. also those games dont support them nothing does.
im sorry if i offended you and made you feel like you wasted your money which you did... because by the time a quad core will give any kind of performance boost urs will be inferior and outdated...
pwned
white45e
wow, ummm you have no idea where I live do you, quad cores are 400 bucks here buddy, hardly a waste of money. i'd hit you up with a plane ticket to indonesia, but i switched the flight to mozambique.....gg.jfelisario
[QUOTE="white45e"]well i dont know where you live but in canada quad cores will cost me about $1300 with tax and everything about $1500.... so yeaaaa your wrong there. also those games dont support them nothing does.im sorry if i offended you and made you feel like you wasted your money which you did... because by the time a quad core will give any kind of performance boost urs will be inferior and outdated...
pwned
ZBoater
[QUOTE="jfelisario"]wow, ummm you have no idea where I live do you, quad cores are 400 bucks here buddy, hardly a waste of money. i'd hit you up with a plane ticket to indonesia, but i switched the flight to mozambique.....gg.white45e
well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.white45eI don't mean to sound rude, but you didn't even bother to read the OCP article, did you? :D Here, let me save you the trouble and paste a little bit here: "These results are as clear cut as they can be; the Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 with all four cores enabled provides the best gameplay experience. We found Supreme Commander playable at 1600x1200 with 16X AF and all in-game settings at their highest levels with quad-core. Anisotropic filtering overall makes little visual quality difference in this game. The only image quality improvements with AF were when we were zoomed all the way in. Some terrain was sharper as you looked toward the top of your screen. However, you do not play this game all the way zoomed in. In this game you are zooming in and out frequently with most of your time is spent zoomed out where AF makes no impact at all. AF does not cause a performance hit however so you can leave it enabled without worrying about it bringing down your framerates. When we disabled two of the cores and were left with a dual-core CPU we found performance to suffer greatly. We had to lower the resolution to 1280x1204 and lower most quality settings. We had to turn the fidelity down to “medium” which decreased the rendering quality of the entire game. We noticed that the textures looked less detailed, the objects and meshes were less detailed and there was less geometry. We also had to turn off shadow fidelity which meant no shadows were cast from any object or unit. Texture detail and level of detail also had to be decreased to their lowest settings which reduced texture detail further and we experienced less detail as we zoomed out of the map" Now, does this sound like MAY support them?
[QUOTE="white45e"]well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.ZBoaterI don't mean to sound rude, but you didn't even bother to read the OCP article, did you? :D Here, let me save you the trouble and paste a little bit here: "These results are as clear cut as they can be; the Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 with all four cores enabled provides the best gameplay experience. We found Supreme Commander playable at 1600x1200 with 16X AF and all in-game settings at their highest levels with quad-core. Anisotropic filtering overall makes little visual quality difference in this game. The only image quality improvements with AF were when we were zoomed all the way in. Some terrain was sharper as you looked toward the top of your screen. However, you do not play this game all the way zoomed in. In this game you are zooming in and out frequently with most of your time is spent zoomed out where AF makes no impact at all. AF does not cause a performance hit however so you can leave it enabled without worrying about it bringing down your framerates. When we disabled two of the cores and were left with a dual-core CPU we found performance to suffer greatly. We had to lower the resolution to 1280x1204 and lower most quality settings. We had to turn the fidelity down to “medium” which decreased the rendering quality of the entire game. We noticed that the textures looked less detailed, the objects and meshes were less detailed and there was less geometry. We also had to turn off shadow fidelity which meant no shadows were cast from any object or unit. Texture detail and level of detail also had to be decreased to their lowest settings which reduced texture detail further and we experienced less detail as we zoomed out of the map" Now, does this sound like MAY support them? yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things...
[QUOTE="white45e"]well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.ZBoaterI don't mean to sound rude, but you didn't even bother to read the OCP article, did you? :D Here, let me save you the trouble and paste a little bit here: "These results are as clear cut as they can be; the Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 with all four cores enabled provides the best gameplay experience. We found Supreme Commander playable at 1600x1200 with 16X AF and all in-game settings at their highest levels with quad-core. Anisotropic filtering overall makes little visual quality difference in this game. The only image quality improvements with AF were when we were zoomed all the way in. Some terrain was sharper as you looked toward the top of your screen. However, you do not play this game all the way zoomed in. In this game you are zooming in and out frequently with most of your time is spent zoomed out where AF makes no impact at all. AF does not cause a performance hit however so you can leave it enabled without worrying about it bringing down your framerates. When we disabled two of the cores and were left with a dual-core CPU we found performance to suffer greatly. We had to lower the resolution to 1280x1204 and lower most quality settings. We had to turn the fidelity down to “medium” which decreased the rendering quality of the entire game. We noticed that the textures looked less detailed, the objects and meshes were less detailed and there was less geometry. We also had to turn off shadow fidelity which meant no shadows were cast from any object or unit. Texture detail and level of detail also had to be decreased to their lowest settings which reduced texture detail further and we experienced less detail as we zoomed out of the map" Now, does this sound like MAY support them? just a lil hehe :) j/k but i do like my x6800 right now.... probably gonna switch it up when the qx6800 comes out.
yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... white45eExplain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad.....
[QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... ZBoater
He also doesn't seem to understand that when games become multithreaded, a 20% increase of performance is the max for dualcores. Quadcores on the other hand will see much larger increases for each additional core.
[QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... ZBoaterExplain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad..... mister i have said this everywhere that the quad cores are a crude form of 2 C2D stuck together, but still they are SUPPOSED to work TOGETHER
[QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... ZBoaterExplain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad..... hey your rig SUCKS :P
[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... r3351925Explain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad..... hey your rig SUCKS :P hi avril :p oh and mine and zboater's rigs pwn yours :lol:
mister i have said this everywhere that the quad cores are a crude form of 2 C2D stuck together, but still they are SUPPOSED to work TOGETHERsaifiiiWhat about it is "crude"? They are very well put together. They don't use bubble gum, or spit, or ugly wires sticking out. And what is "supposed" about their operation? Do you have something to back this up other than your cryptic statement? Then I guess Supreme Commmander was fooled into believing quad-cores were better? That was a neat trick. I don't understand this reluctance to accept the obvious benefits of quad-core technology. Its TWO dual-cores. Nothing special, nothing weird, but DOUBLE the number of cores. Given software that takes advantage of it (like Supreme Commander and STALKER and all the newer games coming like Crysis and HL2:E2, UT3, etc.) they will provide the BEST performance, period. Yes, they are expensive. And yes, not all games will give you benefits. But in those that do, it will be awesome. Accept it and move on to another fight, because this one aint worth it.... :D
[QUOTE="saifiii"]mister i have said this everywhere that the quad cores are a crude form of 2 C2D stuck together, but still they are SUPPOSED to work TOGETHERZBoaterWhat about it is "crude"? They are very well put together. They don't use bubble gum, or spit, or ugly wires sticking out. And what is "supposed" about their operation? Do you have something to back this up other than your cryptic statement? Then I guess Supreme Commmander was fooled into believing quad-cores were better? That was a neat trick. I don't understand this reluctance to accept the obvious benefits of quad-core technology. Its TWO dual-cores. Nothing special, nothing weird, but DOUBLE the number of cores. Given software that takes advantage of it (like Supreme Commander and STALKER and all the newer games coming like Crysis and HL2:E2, UT3, etc.) they will provide the BEST performance, period. Yes, they are expensive. And yes, not all games will give you benefits. But in those that do, it will be awesome. Accept it and move on to another fight, because this one aint worth it.... :D i read someplace that AMDs agena are PROPER quad cores, then yours will really be p*s*ed, that means that four proper cores stuck with L3 cache. i didn't mean to offend you sir, but kentsfield isnt even intel's real quad core, its going to be the improved penryrs
Everest Ultimate Edition 4.00
Guess who is the fastest one in CPU intensive benchmarks...
Everest essentially showed us that the difference between QX6700 and QX6800 is less than those physical 266 MHz that divide them, but performance difference between these four could not be any greater. For a synthetic test such as this one, there really is no doubt about where these four processors are in the food chain.
PCMark05
This synthetic test only goes to show that Kentsfields rock the place. File compression and decompression is one especially impressive result.
Cinebench 4.5
Professional software eats all the cores you can give'em
Cinebench is a well-known customer here; a benchmark based on Cinema 4D software from Maxon. We can see from the results that quad-core fares well, especially given the fact that with four cores you get 3.22x speedup from a single-core one, and with dual-core you will get up to 1.84x. Yours truly really wonders what kind of performance and CPU speedup index will have upcoming quaddie from AMD, illusive Barcelona core.
Modo 203
A saying goes: "time is money". With quad-core CPU, you are double the fast as the dual-core one
Moreover, you can see how things changed, since both QX6700 and QX6800 just blew duallies and Opteron system out of the water. NetBurst was indeed NetBust, but this is something different. If you are a modeller or have to render a lot, this CPU could be your lifesaver. Then again, you could be considering new Clovertown powered Mac Pro - Fruity Company claims that system is great for Modo.
Xmpeg 5.0.3.
For video encoding, we took the complete DVD with Lord of the Rings: Return of The King Special Edition and encoded it Divx format, using MP3 for sound format at 192kbps. This is probably most often used combination, and we wanted to see how the CPUs would fare with it.
You can see from the results that quad-core setup is not very superior to dual-core one. Sure, QX6800 just eats frames with an average of 189fps, but for that price, you could buy three E6700s that will encode the same segment at 144fps. Extreme Edition of yesteryear, X6800 encoded file with 155fps, while QX6700 stayed between the two with 176fps. Since every second counts for 29.9fps, you can imagine how much time it takes to encode an almost 5-hour movie. With 189fps, every second of processing time will count as 6.3 seconds of movie time, or six times faster than real-time, which is very different from only two years ago, when a similar feat would be, achieved 2-3x faster than the movie time itself. Still, 1000 dollars will give you a 5hr movie in less than 50 minutes, while E6700 will do the same job in 65 minutes. Not exactly a quantum leap ahead.
F.E.A.R.
With Fear, we saw that E6700 is beating QX6700 by a very small margin, while QX6800 had a miniature advantage over X6800, so the result is tied in this game. This is the game where you would see a greater jump in performance by buying an E6700 and overclocking it, and putting the second 8800GTX in the board rather than having an enthusiast CPU.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and these are not better results:P
i really don't know why u said quad cores are 1300 $$ got to this website and pick one up for 800-900 bucks
www.canadacomputers.com
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