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#1 badgerslut
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core 2 duo vs quad core,  I have read some places that intel is going to lower theyre prices but

Im wondering if my oc:ed e6700 is going to be fine for the newxt say 2 years, or am I going to be sucking unless I get a quad core.

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#2 jfelisario
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core 2 duo vs quad core, I have read some places that intel is going to lower theyre prices but

Im wondering if my oc:ed e6700 is going to be fine for the newxt say 2 years, or am I going to be sucking unless I get a quad core.

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you'll be fine for the next 2 years or so, get a quad-core by then.
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#3 Boba_Fett_3710
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I'd wait it out and get a Core 2 Duo. I have Core2 Duo running in my machine and it works very well. I'm sure if you have money to burn, you should get the quad but you know it will drop in price sooner or later.
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#4 jfelisario
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I'd wait it out and get a Core 2 Duo. I have Core2 Duo running in my machine and it works very well. I'm sure if you have money to burn, you should get the quad but you know it will drop in price sooner or later.Boba_Fett_3710
get ANOTHER Core 2 Duo?
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#5 Boba_Fett_3710
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]I'd wait it out and get a Core 2 Duo. I have Core2 Duo running in my machine and it works very well. I'm sure if you have money to burn, you should get the quad but you know it will drop in price sooner or later.jfelisario
get ANOTHER Core 2 Duo?

Oh, my bad, I thought they were asking whether they should get a Core 2 Duo or Quad. I was under the assumption they had neither.
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#6 jfelisario
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lol he should be fine with his e6700 and overclock it when the cpu begins to drag
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#7 Wesker776
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is the quade core over kill

...Yes.
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#8 ZBoater
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is the quade core over kill

There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to PCs... :D
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#9 SSJBen
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is the quade core over killZBoater

There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to PCs... :D

A 1000w PSU IS overkill for a Pentium 2 based computer :roll: Quad-Core = Overkill for now, not anymore in about 2 years time.
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#10 jfelisario
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[QUOTE="ZBoater"]

is the quade core over killSSJBen

There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to PCs... :D

A 1000w PSU IS overkill for a Pentium 2 based computer :roll: Quad-Core = Overkill for now, not anymore in about 2 years time.

nooooo!!! how about all my fancy led lights, phase change and 12 hard disks!!! nnoooo!!!!!!!! j/k there is no compelling reason to jump ship now, especially since the quad-cores are going to get more affordable in time. when they become available to a bigger audience bracket, not just the enthusiast market, you can see that as a sign of needing a quad-core.
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[QUOTE="SSJBen"][QUOTE="ZBoater"]

is the quade core over killjfelisario

There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to PCs... :D

A 1000w PSU IS overkill for a Pentium 2 based computer :roll: Quad-Core = Overkill for now, not anymore in about 2 years time.

nooooo!!! how about all my fancy led lights, phase change and 12 hard disks!!! nnoooo!!!!!!!! j/k there is no compelling reason to jump ship now, especially since the quad-cores are going to get more affordable in time. when they become available to a bigger audience bracket, not just the enthusiast market, you can see that as a sign of needing a quad-core.

well if u have extra cash u could donate some for homeless kids .......
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[QUOTE="SSJBen"]A 1000w PSU IS overkill for a Pentium 2 based computer :roll: Quad-Core = Overkill for now, not anymore in about 2 years time.

Hmmmm, Quad-Core = Overkill. I just don't get it. If you can have the fastest, meanest, hottest processor on the market, why exactly is that "over" kill? Is there a certain line or standard EVERYONE is supposed to adhere to, and if you cross that you've crossed into "overkill" category? If you are talking about busting a budget, would it be "wiser" not to spend the money on a Quad now, maybe later? Perhaps. But "overkill"? I think all the dudes that are dying by my hand in BF2 are not being "overkilled" - just plain killed. :D
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seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.
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#14 ZBoater
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seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.white45e


The Quads are not $1,500, and there will be games that take advantage of mulitple cores, as do the NVidia video drivers. Supreme Commander and STALKER already take advantage of Quad cores. So will Crysis, Unreal Tournament 3, and Half Life Episode 2. Here is a link to an article on HardOcp.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The simple fact is that although Dual core is GOOD, Quad is BETTER. :D

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[QUOTE="white45e"]seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.ZBoater



The Quads are not $1,500, and there will be games that take advantage of mulitple cores, as do the NVidia video drivers. Supreme Commander and STALKER already take advantage of Quad cores. So will Crysis, Unreal Tournament 3, and Half Life Episode 2. Here is a link to an article on HardOcp.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The simple fact is that although Dual core is GOOD, Quad is BETTER. :D

pwnt by intelligence. sorry people should research before posting, really.
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[QUOTE="ZBoater"]

[QUOTE="white45e"]seeing as 2 of the cores wont even be used for a few more years this makes the 2 remaining cores weaker then a dual core and your actually be getting much worse performance but just like with dual cores eventually games will use them but not for atleast 5 years not many people want to spend $1500 just for a cpu.jfelisario



The Quads are not $1,500, and there will be games that take advantage of mulitple cores, as do the NVidia video drivers. Supreme Commander and STALKER already take advantage of Quad cores. So will Crysis, Unreal Tournament 3, and Half Life Episode 2. Here is a link to an article on HardOcp.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwNiwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The simple fact is that although Dual core is GOOD, Quad is BETTER. :D



pwnt by intelligence. sorry people should research before posting, really.



well i dont know where you live but in canada quad cores will cost me about $1300 with tax and everything about $1500.... so yeaaaa your wrong there. also those games dont support them nothing does.

 

im sorry if i offended you and made you feel like you wasted your money which you did... because by the time a quad core will give any kind of performance boost urs will be inferior and outdated...

 

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wow, ummm you have no idea where I live do you, quad cores are 400 bucks here buddy, hardly a waste of money. i'd hit you up with a plane ticket to indonesia, but i switched the flight to mozambique.....gg.
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well i dont know where you live but in canada quad cores will cost me about $1300 with tax and everything about $1500.... so yeaaaa your wrong there. also those games dont support them nothing does.

 

im sorry if i offended you and made you feel like you wasted your money which you did... because by the time a quad core will give any kind of performance boost urs will be inferior and outdated...

 

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Oh, sorry, was that $1300 Canadian? Not sure of the exchange rate, but it sound right. Quads are in the mid $900US, and are rumored to be going down below $600US in a month or so.

Why do you say those games don't support Quads? The folks at HardOCP did a pretty detailed test, Head on over and check it out. It truly does work! :D

An if you were referring to me, I was not offended. I just disagree with you - I think I made a really good investment. I am getting the performance boost right now in Supreme Commander, running at 2560x1600 with all the details maxed out. I can OC all the way up to 3.6GHz, so I think I am going to be set for a while. Maybe when they come down in price it will be an even better deal, and you can jump on the bandwagon then.

Good luck! :D
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wow, ummm you have no idea where I live do you, quad cores are 400 bucks here buddy, hardly a waste of money. i'd hit you up with a plane ticket to indonesia, but i switched the flight to mozambique.....gg.jfelisario


i was meaning to reply to that other guy i alrdy knew you lived in indonesia but in north america thats how much it costs... the plan ticket would be a few hundred there and a few hundred back along with the **** climet and other crap its not worth going there...
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[QUOTE="white45e"]well i dont know where you live but in canada quad cores will cost me about $1300 with tax and everything about $1500.... so yeaaaa your wrong there. also those games dont support them nothing does.

im sorry if i offended you and made you feel like you wasted your money which you did... because by the time a quad core will give any kind of performance boost urs will be inferior and outdated...

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Oh, sorry, was that $1300 Canadian? Not sure of the exchange rate, but it sound right. Quads are in the mid $900US, and are rumored to be going down below $600US in a month or so.

Why do you say those games don't support Quads? The folks at HardOCP did a pretty detailed test, Head on over and check it out. It truly does work! :D

An if you were referring to me, I was not offended. I just disagree with you - I think I made a really good investment. I am getting the performance boost right now in Supreme Commander, running at 2560x1600 with all the details maxed out. I can OC all the way up to 3.6GHz, so I think I am going to be set for a while. Maybe when they come down in price it will be an even better deal, and you can jump on the bandwagon then.

Good luck! :D

well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.
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#21 jfelisario
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[QUOTE="jfelisario"]wow, ummm you have no idea where I live do you, quad cores are 400 bucks here buddy, hardly a waste of money. i'd hit you up with a plane ticket to indonesia, but i switched the flight to mozambique.....gg.white45e


i was meaning to reply to that other guy i alrdy knew you lived in indonesia but in north america thats how much it costs... the plan ticket would be a few hundred there and a few hundred back along with the **** climet and other crap its not worth going there...

oh lol hehe ok ok gotcha, no hard feelings. would still like to give you a ticket so you could buy this: http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturer/14897911/Sell_Core_2_Extreme_Qx6700_Processors.html
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#22 AARONRULZ1
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If you can afford it,then its not overkill,SupCom and STALKER love Quads.
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#23 ZBoater
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well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.white45e
I don't mean to sound rude, but you didn't even bother to read the OCP article, did you? :D Here, let me save you the trouble and paste a little bit here: "These results are as clear cut as they can be; the Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 with all four cores enabled provides the best gameplay experience. We found Supreme Commander playable at 1600x1200 with 16X AF and all in-game settings at their highest levels with quad-core. Anisotropic filtering overall makes little visual quality difference in this game. The only image quality improvements with AF were when we were zoomed all the way in. Some terrain was sharper as you looked toward the top of your screen. However, you do not play this game all the way zoomed in. In this game you are zooming in and out frequently with most of your time is spent zoomed out where AF makes no impact at all. AF does not cause a performance hit however so you can leave it enabled without worrying about it bringing down your framerates. When we disabled two of the cores and were left with a dual-core CPU we found performance to suffer greatly. We had to lower the resolution to 1280x1204 and lower most quality settings. We had to turn the fidelity down to “medium” which decreased the rendering quality of the entire game. We noticed that the textures looked less detailed, the objects and meshes were less detailed and there was less geometry. We also had to turn off shadow fidelity which meant no shadows were cast from any object or unit. Texture detail and level of detail also had to be decreased to their lowest settings which reduced texture detail further and we experienced less detail as we zoomed out of the map" Now, does this sound like MAY support them?
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[QUOTE="white45e"]well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.ZBoater
I don't mean to sound rude, but you didn't even bother to read the OCP article, did you? :D Here, let me save you the trouble and paste a little bit here: "These results are as clear cut as they can be; the Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 with all four cores enabled provides the best gameplay experience. We found Supreme Commander playable at 1600x1200 with 16X AF and all in-game settings at their highest levels with quad-core. Anisotropic filtering overall makes little visual quality difference in this game. The only image quality improvements with AF were when we were zoomed all the way in. Some terrain was sharper as you looked toward the top of your screen. However, you do not play this game all the way zoomed in. In this game you are zooming in and out frequently with most of your time is spent zoomed out where AF makes no impact at all. AF does not cause a performance hit however so you can leave it enabled without worrying about it bringing down your framerates. When we disabled two of the cores and were left with a dual-core CPU we found performance to suffer greatly. We had to lower the resolution to 1280x1204 and lower most quality settings. We had to turn the fidelity down to “medium” which decreased the rendering quality of the entire game. We noticed that the textures looked less detailed, the objects and meshes were less detailed and there was less geometry. We also had to turn off shadow fidelity which meant no shadows were cast from any object or unit. Texture detail and level of detail also had to be decreased to their lowest settings which reduced texture detail further and we experienced less detail as we zoomed out of the map" Now, does this sound like MAY support them?

yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things...
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[QUOTE="white45e"]well ok they MAY support them but that doesnt mean they get any benefit simply because a dual core doesnt get pushed the limit yet and wont for a few years.ZBoater
I don't mean to sound rude, but you didn't even bother to read the OCP article, did you? :D Here, let me save you the trouble and paste a little bit here: "These results are as clear cut as they can be; the Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 with all four cores enabled provides the best gameplay experience. We found Supreme Commander playable at 1600x1200 with 16X AF and all in-game settings at their highest levels with quad-core. Anisotropic filtering overall makes little visual quality difference in this game. The only image quality improvements with AF were when we were zoomed all the way in. Some terrain was sharper as you looked toward the top of your screen. However, you do not play this game all the way zoomed in. In this game you are zooming in and out frequently with most of your time is spent zoomed out where AF makes no impact at all. AF does not cause a performance hit however so you can leave it enabled without worrying about it bringing down your framerates. When we disabled two of the cores and were left with a dual-core CPU we found performance to suffer greatly. We had to lower the resolution to 1280x1204 and lower most quality settings. We had to turn the fidelity down to “medium” which decreased the rendering quality of the entire game. We noticed that the textures looked less detailed, the objects and meshes were less detailed and there was less geometry. We also had to turn off shadow fidelity which meant no shadows were cast from any object or unit. Texture detail and level of detail also had to be decreased to their lowest settings which reduced texture detail further and we experienced less detail as we zoomed out of the map" Now, does this sound like MAY support them?

just a lil hehe :) j/k but i do like my x6800 right now.... probably gonna switch it up when the qx6800 comes out.
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I like my quad X-D
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yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... white45e
Explain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad.....
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lol, my x6800 vs JigglyWiggly2's QX6700 Faceoff!!! dum dum dum!!
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[QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... ZBoater


Explain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad.....

He also doesn't seem to understand that when games become multithreaded, a 20% increase of performance is the max for dualcores. Quadcores on the other hand will see much larger increases for each additional core. 

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[QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... ZBoater
Explain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad.....

mister i have said this everywhere that the quad cores are a crude form of 2 C2D stuck together, but still they are SUPPOSED to work TOGETHER
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[QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... ZBoater
Explain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad.....

hey your rig SUCKS :P
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[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="white45e"]yea they turned 2 of the cores off and got reduced performance because each of the cores are weaker then the ones in a dual core, quad cores for gaming is relativly new so this is to be expected they are just trying to sell you the quads they probly get paid to say such things... r3351925
Explain this "weaker" theory of yours, because I dont get it. The Core2 Duo stock speed is 2.66GHz (E6700). The Core2 Extreme (X6800) is 2.93GHz. The plain Quad is 2.4 and the Extreme Quad is 2.66 (what OCP was using). A Quad is nothing more that 2 Core2 Duos put together, so there is no mystery or magic here. It seems to me you are working overtime on justifying NOT getting a Quad.....

hey your rig SUCKS :P

hi avril :p oh and mine and zboater's rigs pwn yours :lol:
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#33 jfelisario
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time for a newer "overkill" quad-core..... http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38772
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So why is everything so cheap in Indonesia? I dont get it
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#35 ZBoater
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mister i have said this everywhere that the quad cores are a crude form of 2 C2D stuck together, but still they are SUPPOSED to work TOGETHERsaifiii
What about it is "crude"? They are very well put together. They don't use bubble gum, or spit, or ugly wires sticking out. And what is "supposed" about their operation? Do you have something to back this up other than your cryptic statement? Then I guess Supreme Commmander was fooled into believing quad-cores were better? That was a neat trick. I don't understand this reluctance to accept the obvious benefits of quad-core technology. Its TWO dual-cores. Nothing special, nothing weird, but DOUBLE the number of cores. Given software that takes advantage of it (like Supreme Commander and STALKER and all the newer games coming like Crysis and HL2:E2, UT3, etc.) they will provide the BEST performance, period. Yes, they are expensive. And yes, not all games will give you benefits. But in those that do, it will be awesome. Accept it and move on to another fight, because this one aint worth it.... :D
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[QUOTE="saifiii"]mister i have said this everywhere that the quad cores are a crude form of 2 C2D stuck together, but still they are SUPPOSED to work TOGETHERZBoater
What about it is "crude"? They are very well put together. They don't use bubble gum, or spit, or ugly wires sticking out. And what is "supposed" about their operation? Do you have something to back this up other than your cryptic statement? Then I guess Supreme Commmander was fooled into believing quad-cores were better? That was a neat trick. I don't understand this reluctance to accept the obvious benefits of quad-core technology. Its TWO dual-cores. Nothing special, nothing weird, but DOUBLE the number of cores. Given software that takes advantage of it (like Supreme Commander and STALKER and all the newer games coming like Crysis and HL2:E2, UT3, etc.) they will provide the BEST performance, period. Yes, they are expensive. And yes, not all games will give you benefits. But in those that do, it will be awesome. Accept it and move on to another fight, because this one aint worth it.... :D

i read someplace that AMDs agena are PROPER quad cores, then yours will really be p*s*ed, that means that four proper cores stuck with L3 cache. i didn't mean to offend you sir, but kentsfield isnt even intel's real quad core, its going to be the improved penryrs
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#37 saifiii
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and ofcourse quad core will perform better in games because its QUAD. that reminds me that pentium Ds were indeed better than p4s simply because they were 2 cores
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#38 saifiii
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Everest Ultimate Edition 4.00

Guess who is the fastest one in CPU intensive benchmarks...

Everest essentially showed us that the difference between QX6700 and QX6800 is less than those physical 266 MHz that divide them, but performance difference between these four could not be any greater. For a synthetic test such as this one, there really is no doubt about where these four processors are in the food chain.

PCMark05

This synthetic test only goes to show that Kentsfields rock the place. File compression and decompression is one especially impressive result.

Cinebench 4.5


Professional software eats all the cores you can give'em

Cinebench is a well-known customer here; a benchmark based on Cinema 4D software from Maxon. We can see from the results that quad-core fares well, especially given the fact that with four cores you get 3.22x speedup from a single-core one, and with dual-core you will get up to 1.84x. Yours truly really wonders what kind of performance and CPU speedup index will have upcoming quaddie from AMD, illusive Barcelona core.

Modo 203

A saying goes: "time is money". With quad-core CPU, you are double the fast as the dual-core one

Moreover, you can see how things changed, since both QX6700 and QX6800 just blew duallies and Opteron system out of the water. NetBurst was indeed NetBust, but this is something different. If you are a modeller or have to render a lot, this CPU could be your lifesaver. Then again, you could be considering new Clovertown powered Mac Pro - Fruity Company claims that system is great for Modo.

Xmpeg 5.0.3.

For video encoding, we took the complete DVD with Lord of the Rings: Return of The King Special Edition and encoded it Divx format, using MP3 for sound format at 192kbps. This is probably most often used combination, and we wanted to see how the CPUs would fare with it.

You can see from the results that quad-core setup is not very superior to dual-core one. Sure, QX6800 just eats frames with an average of 189fps, but for that price, you could buy three E6700s that will encode the same segment at 144fps. Extreme Edition of yesteryear, X6800 encoded file with 155fps, while QX6700 stayed between the two with 176fps. Since every second counts for 29.9fps, you can imagine how much time it takes to encode an almost 5-hour movie. With 189fps, every second of processing time will count as 6.3 seconds of movie time, or six times faster than real-time, which is very different from only two years ago, when a similar feat would be, achieved 2-3x faster than the movie time itself. Still, 1000 dollars will give you a 5hr movie in less than 50 minutes, while E6700 will do the same job in 65 minutes. Not exactly a quantum leap ahead.

F.E.A.R.

With Fear, we saw that E6700 is beating QX6700 by a very small margin, while QX6800 had a miniature advantage over X6800, so the result is tied in this game. This is the game where you would see a greater jump in performance by buying an E6700 and overclocking it, and putting the second 8800GTX in the board rather than having an enthusiast CPU.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
and these are not better results:P

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i really don't know why u said quad cores are 1300 $$ got to this website and pick one up for 800-900 bucks

www.canadacomputers.com

 

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[QUOTE="saifiii"]i read someplace that AMDs agena are PROPER quad cores, then yours will really be p*s*ed, that means that four proper cores stuck with L3 cache. i didn't mean to offend you sir, but kentsfield isnt even intel's real quad core, its going to be the improved penryrs

PROPER? According to who? AMD? The advantage of quad-core is not just in raw speed. Its in being able to simultaneously handle several tasks at once. You won't see that in raw FPS gains - you will see it in being able to run on more effects, or effects at a higher setting. So, unless the application is built to take advantage of the four cores, of course you are going to see performance similar, or quads a LITTLE bit slower since they are, after all, a couple hundred MHz slower. However, in applications (like Supreme Commander) where quad-cores are used, the Quads are going to blow away the Duos. Its simple math. Did you even read that whole thing you pasted into your post?
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#41 saifiii
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[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="saifiii"]i read someplace that AMDs agena are PROPER quad cores, then yours will really be p*s*ed, that means that four proper cores stuck with L3 cache. i didn't mean to offend you sir, but kentsfield isnt even intel's real quad core, its going to be the improved penryrs

PROPER? According to who? AMD? The advantage of quad-core is not just in raw speed. Its in being able to simultaneously handle several tasks at once. You won't see that in raw FPS gains - you will see it in being able to run on more effects, or effects at a higher setting. So, unless the application is built to take advantage of the four cores, of course you are going to see performance similar, or quads a LITTLE bit slower since they are, after all, a couple hundred MHz slower. However, in applications (like Supreme Commander) where quad-cores are used, the Quads are going to blow away the Duos. Its simple math. Did you even read that whole thing you pasted into your post?

you were boasting about S.T.A.L.K.E.R and the last result clearly shows that you dont get much of a performance gain and just go through inquirers or xbitlabs for more info on agena, man cool down OK, im just debating other end of story
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[QUOTE="saifiii"]you were boasting about S.T.A.L.K.E.R and the last result clearly shows that you dont get much of a performance gain and just go through inquirers or xbitlabs for more info on agena, man cool down OK, im just debating other end of story

I wasn't boasting about STALKER. I was simply pointing out the testing HardOCP was doing with Supreme Commander, and in that article they mention STALKER, HL2:E2 and others. This is what the STALKER readme files says: "Dual Core and Performance - S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl should utilize your dual and quad core processor natively and automatically. Running a dual or quad core processor is one of the best ways to improve performance." And also, I noticed you conveniently left out the articles description of STALKER's performance tests. There is no link to the original article, no explanation on how the tests were conducted, etc. And don't worry about my temperature - my Quad runs hot, I don't. :D If you intend to "debate" the other side of the story, you may want to do a little more research. Just a thought.
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[QUOTE="ZBoater"][QUOTE="saifiii"]you were boasting about S.T.A.L.K.E.R and the last result clearly shows that you dont get much of a performance gain and just go through inquirers or xbitlabs for more info on agena, man cool down OK, im just debating other end of story

I wasn't boasting about STALKER. I was simply pointing out the testing HardOCP was doing with Supreme Commander, and in that article they mention STALKER, HL2:E2 and others. This is what the STALKER readme files says: "Dual Core and Performance - S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl should utilize your dual and quad core processor natively and automatically. Running a dual or quad core processor is one of the best ways to improve performance." And also, I noticed you conveniently left out the articles description of STALKER's performance tests. There is no link to the original article, no explanation on how the tests were conducted, etc. And don't worry about my temperature - my Quad runs hot, I don't. :D If you intend to "debate" the other side of the story, you may want to do a little more research. Just a thought.

to mention i was just reading that on the link provided on the 2nd page by somebody