is there a big difference between 720p and 1080p on pc games blu-ray movies?

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#1 slipknot0129
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Is there a big difference between 720p and 1080p on pc games or blu-ray movies? I got a 1080p monitor and never used native 1080p before. I guess the only way to tell is on a blu-ray movie or switching setting on a pc game. Do any of you notice that much of a difference?

I sit up close and when looking at objects I still see each pixel and notice how few pixels there are and how there isnt much detail in 720p. I imagine 1080p would double the quality.

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#2 Bozanimal
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This question is not much different than asking, will I notice a difference between 640x480 and 1024x768? The more tangible difference is felt based on how you are using your monitor:

  1. The closer you sit the more pronounced the difference between the two
  2. The larger the screen the more pronounced the difference between the two

You will notice huge differences in desktop use - video games, photo editing software, etc. - at higher resolutions than you will with movies, but the difference is always there. Note also that running games at 1080p (1920×1080) is going to take a lot more horsepower than 720p (1280×720)

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#3 APiranhaAteMyVa
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The only way to truly test is to have two equally made and set up TV's/monitors one native 720p and one 1080p and see if you can tell a difference and at what distance. You should be using your monitors native resolution, that will get the best picture quality.
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#4 ChubbyGuy40
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Yes there is a difference. One of the major advantages of PC gaming. 1080p is nearly, or just a bit more than twice the resolution 720p is. Makes a big difference gaming and watching blu-rays.

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If you have 1080p use it.

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#6 Xtasy26
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The difference is NIGHT and DAY.

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Big difference. 50% more heigth and width, 2.25 times as many pixels.

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#8 Bozanimal
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Big difference. 50% more heigth and width, 2.25 times as many pixels.

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The graphic is misleading: 1080p does not mean you have a larger screen, it gets you more pixels per area, which means more detail. You can have a 55" 720p screen and a 1080p screen; both are the same diagonal size, but the 1080p screen has more detail. Every now and then I'll encounter someone that complains when I set their monitor to its native resolution from a low-resolution because, "the font became so tiny!" Hee hee.

That being said, if you have a 42" screen at 720p, a 63" 1080p screen (approximately) would have the same number of pixels per square inch. :o

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There is a gargantuan visual difference between watching a blu ray movie in 720p and 1080p. Blu Ray movies are supposed to be played in 1080p, because that's what HD is.
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definitely big difference :lol: its like comparing heaven n hell :lol:

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definitely big difference :lol: its like comparing heaven n hell :lol:

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Thats more like comparing a 120" screen with 4k2k resolution to a tiny cell phone screen for watching movies :P

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This question is not much different than asking, will I notice a difference between 640x480 and 1024x768? The more tangible difference is felt based on how you are using your monitor:

  1. The closer you sit the more pronounced the difference between the two
  2. The larger the screen the more pronounced the difference between the two

You will notice huge differences in desktop use - video games, photo editing software, etc. - at higher resolutions than you will with movies, but the difference is always there. Note also that running games at 1080p (1920×1080) is going to take a lot more horsepower than 720p (1280×720)

Boz

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Number two is wrong.

The size of the screen alone has nothing to do with how good the resolution is, it's size in relation to viewing distance. You good have a top of the range 1080p 60" TV, but if you sit to far away from it, you will not benefit from it being 1080p. 1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and always will be 1920 x 1080. This does not change dueto the screen size getting bigger. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" (if all other varibles are the same on the TV).

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[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

This question is not much different than asking, will I notice a difference between 640x480 and 1024x768? The more tangible difference is felt based on how you are using your monitor:

  1. The closer you sit the more pronounced the difference between the two
  2. The larger the screen the more pronounced the difference between the two

You will notice huge differences in desktop use - video games, photo editing software, etc. - at higher resolutions than you will with movies, but the difference is always there. Note also that running games at 1080p (1920×1080) is going to take a lot more horsepower than 720p (1280×720)

Boz

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Number two is wrong.

The size of the screen alone has nothing to do with how good the resolution is, it's size in relation to viewing distance. You good have a top of the range 1080p 60" TV, but if you sit to far away from it, you will not benefit from it being 1080p. 1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and always will be 1920 x 1080. This does not change dueto the screen size getting bigger. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" (if all other varibles are the same on the TV).

If you read the post, he listed two factors that will cause a difference: viewing distance and screen size.

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#14 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

This question is not much different than asking, will I notice a difference between 640x480 and 1024x768? The more tangible difference is felt based on how you are using your monitor:

  1. The closer you sit the more pronounced the difference between the two
  2. The larger the screen the more pronounced the difference between the two

You will notice huge differences in desktop use - video games, photo editing software, etc. - at higher resolutions than you will with movies, but the difference is always there. Note also that running games at 1080p (1920×1080) is going to take a lot more horsepower than 720p (1280×720)

Boz

simplyderp



Number two is wrong.

The size of the screen alone has nothing to do with how good the resolution is, it's size in relation to viewing distance. You good have a top of the range 1080p 60" TV, but if you sit to far away from it, you will not benefit from it being 1080p. 1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and always will be 1920 x 1080. This does not change dueto the screen size getting bigger. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" (if all other varibles are the same on the TV).

If you read the post, he listed two factors that will cause a difference: viewing distance and screen size.



I did, now try reading my post which states point number two is wrong and explains why. Point number two is infact wrong. differing size TV's do not alter the difference between 720p and 1080p.

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It's funny, on TV/Movies i can't tell, but if i'm playing the Witcher on my 24'' monitor and i switch it to 720p i can tell the difference and it looks a bit "blockier".......
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There is definitely a difference, but only if you sit within a distance where your eyes can see the difference for a given TV size. Most people say there is definitely a difference when their comparison is only based on switching their 1080p TV's to 720p. That is not really comparing resolution as the 1080p fixed pixel display can only display 1080p. Anything else is scaled to 1080p and that produces the difference they are seeing. This type of resolution changing could only provide a good comparison on CRT based TV's that could natively display the resolutions in question. If a native 720p picture is compared to a native 1080p picture with all else being equal, then there is a distance from a given display size where the two would be indistinguishable. For a 50" set that distance is about 6'. If you sit further than that there is no difference between the (and even further than that there would be no difference between 480p/720p etc.
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It's funny, on TV/Movies i can't tell, but if i'm playing the Witcher on my 24'' monitor and i switch it to 720p i can tell the difference and it looks a bit "blockier".......X360PS3AMD05

Alot of TV and Movies are in 720p.

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Again, your flat screen monitor is whatever native resolution it is. If it's 1920x1080, then everything displayed on that monitor is 1920x1080. The monitor will have to scale whatever resolution you feed it to that native resolution. The reason it looks blockier is that the image has to be scaled to your monitor's resolution which introduces artifacts like the blocking you see. That isn't actually an issue with the resolution difference, but actually an issue with the scaling of that resolution to whatever the native resolution your monitor is.
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It would be nice if there's software that would allow 1:1 mode for monitors that don't have it.

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That's what scalers try to do-some do better, some do worse. That's why there is a market for a $500 Oppo blu-ray player that has an excellent scaler over a $100 mass brand with average at best scalers.
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[QUOTE="rastan"]There is definitely a difference, but only if you sit within a distance where your eyes can see the difference for a given TV size. Most people say there is definitely a difference when their comparison is only based on switching their 1080p TV's to 720p. That is not really comparing resolution as the 1080p fixed pixel display can only display 1080p. Anything else is scaled to 1080p and that produces the difference they are seeing. This type of resolution changing could only provide a good comparison on CRT based TV's that could natively display the resolutions in question. If a native 720p picture is compared to a native 1080p picture with all else being equal, then there is a distance from a given display size where the two would be indistinguishable. For a 50" set that distance is about 6'. If you sit further than that there is no difference between the (and even further than that there would be no difference between 480p/720p etc.

No assuming 20/20 vision on a 50" t.v 7 feet or closer and you will see the full benefit of 1080p over 720p and you will still see some benefit at a foot or 2 farther away http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter
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That's what scalers try to do-some do better, some do worse. That's why there is a market for a $500 Oppo blu-ray player that has an excellent scaler over a $100 mass brand with average at best scalers.rastan
Why would you need a good scaler on a bluray player? For that price you might as well spend the extra money for a higher end t.v with 1080p so no scaling to display blurays and the built in scaler will be better then a lower quality t.v for all non 1080p content.

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After just getting 1080p i have to say yes. The picture difference is quite huge

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[QUOTE="rastan"]That's what scalers try to do-some do better, some do worse. That's why there is a market for a $500 Oppo blu-ray player that has an excellent scaler over a $100 mass brand with average at best scalers.DJ_Headshot

Why would you need a good scaler on a bluray player? For that price you might as well spend the extra money for a higher end t.v with 1080p so no scaling to display blurays and the built in scaler will be better then a lower quality t.v for all non 1080p content.

Well, there are a lot of DVD's out there and the Oppo has some of the best scaling out there as well as excellent Blu-Ray PQ. Whether its worth the price is dependent on what the user values.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"][QUOTE="rastan"]There is definitely a difference, but only if you sit within a distance where your eyes can see the difference for a given TV size. Most people say there is definitely a difference when their comparison is only based on switching their 1080p TV's to 720p. That is not really comparing resolution as the 1080p fixed pixel display can only display 1080p. Anything else is scaled to 1080p and that produces the difference they are seeing. This type of resolution changing could only provide a good comparison on CRT based TV's that could natively display the resolutions in question. If a native 720p picture is compared to a native 1080p picture with all else being equal, then there is a distance from a given display size where the two would be indistinguishable. For a 50" set that distance is about 6'. If you sit further than that there is no difference between the (and even further than that there would be no difference between 480p/720p etc.

No assuming 20/20 vision on a 50" t.v 7 feet or closer and you will see the full benefit of 1080p over 720p and you will still see some benefit at a foot or 2 farther away http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter

You rounded up, I rounded down, same deal: "What the chart shows is that, for a 50-inch screen, the benefits of 720p vs. 480p start to become apparent at viewing distances closer than 14.6 feet and become fully apparent at 9.8 feet. For the same screen size, the benefits of 1080p vs. 720p start to become apparent when closer than 9.8 feet and become full apparent at 6.5 feet. In my opinion, 6.5 feet is closer than most people will sit to their 50″ plasma TV (even through the THX recommended viewing distance for a 50″ screen is 5.6 ft). So, most consumers will not be able to see the full benefit of their 1080p TV."
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1080P looks so much sharper on my HDTV. After playing in 1080P for a while 720P seemed really low res to me.
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#27 rastan
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Almost no games are 1080p for console gaming. If you have a 1080p TV, of course 1080p will look better then 720p as your TV will only display 1080p and scales everything else to 1080p.
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Almost no games are 1080p for console gaming. If you have a 1080p TV, of course 1080p will look better then 720p as your TV will only display 1080p and scales everything else to 1080p.rastan

God of War 3 must be... Just saw that on a 63 incher, and that thing is sharp... :o

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[QUOTE="rastan"]Almost no games are 1080p for console gaming. If you have a 1080p TV, of course 1080p will look better then 720p as your TV will only display 1080p and scales everything else to 1080p.Urworstnhtmare

God of War 3 must be... Just saw that on a 63 incher, and that thing is sharp... :o

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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="rastan"]Almost no games are 1080p for console gaming. If you have a 1080p TV, of course 1080p will look better then 720p as your TV will only display 1080p and scales everything else to 1080p.DJ_Headshot

God of War 3 must be... Just saw that on a 63 incher, and that thing is sharp... :o

MLAA

Wikipedia says it runs at 1080p, and whether it uses MLA or not, it still looks sharp...

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On my 25" computer monitor, I don't notice anything different between 720p and 1080p when viewing blu ray movies. But if it's gaming, then the difference is night and day.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"][QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

God of War 3 must be... Just saw that on a 63 incher, and that thing is sharp... :o

Urworstnhtmare

MLAA

Wikipedia says it runs at 1080p, and whether it uses MLA or not, it still looks sharp...

The game is only 720p native you have to rememder that a sizable chunk of consoles games like mgs4 and call of duty run at sub-hD with little no AA So 720p wth MLAA looks better then most other consoles games.

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2010/01/20/god-of-war-iii-downgraded-to-720p-native-resolution/