Is there a PC screen that looks as good a 27'' iMac screen ?

I want it for graphics and games, i saw the latest LED iMac 27'' screen in a store and was breathtaking, best sceen i have seen in my life

But it is not windows compatible and all my games and program need windows

So, is there anything close to that screen for PC ?

What resolution are you looking for because that affects games alot. I would advise 2560x1600 it makes all the difference but you will need a really good card or 2 really good ones.

there will be, but they'll be pretty expensive. you're looking for the combination of LED backlit LCD and IPS panel. the apple also has a glossy display. you'd probably be good with any 26" IPS, actually - most of the non-LED backlit ones are still quality, if NEC's professional models are still around. doesn't apple just sell a 27" cinema display?Makari

They do, but i think is not PC copatible, even with video cards with compatible output are not generally compatible

BTW does the glossy make a lot of difference ?

BTW does the glossy make a lot of difference ?

killzoneded

I think i fould one

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hazro_hz27wa.htm

Who told you it's not PC compatible? The thing is that it only has display port but if you have a graphics card with display port then you are good to go. Otherwise you can still use a converter but I have heard they are quite expensive taking the price well above a grand.

But there is a very serious drawback to the apple display, it is extremely glossy. WTF is the point of LED and superior blacks with a glossy screen?

This is what I would recommend you.

I remember people on this board recommending a 27" IPS Dell for about $700 that was apparantly similar to the apple display. I can't remember the model number though.

Who told you it's not PC compatible? The thing is that it only has display port but if you have a graphics card with display port then you are good to go. Otherwise you can still use a converter but I have heard they are quite expensive taking the price well above a grand.

But there is a very serious drawback to the apple display, it is extremely glossy. WTF is the point of LED and superior blacks with a glossy screen?

This is what I would recommend you.

Gambler_3

I agree, looked spectacular in the shop, but in working conditions could be a bit too much

What about this Samsung soming in pring ? Has all specs and more subtle gloss, which would bring out the colors wihtout the big gloss feeling of Apple

http://www.pcmonitors.org/news/samsung-pls-plane-to-line-switching-technology-samsung-sa850

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHRGVnDXwA

Matte finish IPS also produces amazingly vibrant colours trust me on that as I have one.

Where matte suffers is the blacks. As much as I love deep blacks, I hate glossy even more so glossy is not even an option for me be it "semi-glossy" or whatever.

The apple screen is no doubt an incredible technology but it is only worth it for what it's name suggests "cinema". If you are gonna watch movies in the dark then apple one is hands down better but for all other purposes the dell will do a much better job.

I dont know much about that samsung thing.

Matte finish IPS also produces amazingly vibrant colours trust me on that as I have one.

Where matter suffers is the blacks. As much as I love deep blacks, I hate glossy even more so glossy is not even an option for me be it "semi-glossy" or whatever.

The apple screen is no doubt an incredible technology but it is only worth it for what it's name suggests "cinema". If you are gonna watch movies in the dark then apple one is hands down better but for all other purposes the dell will do a much better job.

I dont know much about that samsung thing.

Gambler_3

Seems you are right, saw a video with Dell and Apple side by side and colors looked as amazing

Who told you it's not PC compatible? The thing is that it only has display port but if you have a graphics card with display port then you are good to go. Otherwise you can still use a converter but I have heard they are quite expensive taking the price well above a grand.

But there is a very serious drawback to the apple display, it is extremely glossy. WTF is the point of LED and superior blacks with a glossy screen?

This is what I would recommend you.

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

BTW does the glossy make a lot of difference ?

C_Rule

:lol:

You got me there

Dell U2711

it is the 27" iMac screen

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Who told you it's not PC compatible? The thing is that it only has display port but if you have a graphics card with display port then you are good to go. Otherwise you can still use a converter but I have heard they are quite expensive taking the price well above a grand.

But there is a very serious drawback to the apple display, it is extremely glossy. WTF is the point of LED and superior blacks with a glossy screen?

This is what I would recommend you.

FUBAR24

Dell U2711

it is the 27" iMac screen

scoots9

this, it's the exact same panel except with an anti-glare coating. some say it makes it sparkle but i'd rather that instead of glare all up in my face

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Matte finish IPS also produces amazingly vibrant colours trust me on that as I have one.

Where matter suffers is the blacks. As much as I love deep blacks, I hate glossy even more so glossy is not even an option for me be it "semi-glossy" or whatever.

The apple screen is no doubt an incredible technology but it is only worth it for what it's name suggests "cinema". If you are gonna watch movies in the dark then apple one is hands down better but for all other purposes the dell will do a much better job.

I dont know much about that samsung thing.

killzoneded

Seems you are right, saw a video with Dell and Apple side by side and colors looked as amazing

You mean, they looked amazing through your current PC monitor? I'm confused.:?

If the colors were that vivid in the video, wouldn't that mean your current monitor is capable of displaying that same color?:|

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Matte finish IPS also produces amazingly vibrant colours trust me on that as I have one.

Where matter suffers is the blacks. As much as I love deep blacks, I hate glossy even more so glossy is not even an option for me be it "semi-glossy" or whatever.

The apple screen is no doubt an incredible technology but it is only worth it for what it's name suggests "cinema". If you are gonna watch movies in the dark then apple one is hands down better but for all other purposes the dell will do a much better job.

I dont know much about that samsung thing.

Nibroc420

Seems you are right, saw a video with Dell and Apple side by side and colors looked as amazing

You mean, they looked amazing through your current PC monitor? I'm confused.:?

If the colors were that vivid in the video, wouldn't that mean your current monitor is capable of displaying that same color?:|

My current monitor is 19'' and mediocre quality putting a strain to the eyes

I mainly want it for graphics work and i need something bigger to stop panning things around and look cripser

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

Seems you are right, saw a video with Dell and Apple side by side and colors looked as amazing

killzoneded

You mean, they looked amazing through your current PC monitor? I'm confused.:?

If the colors were that vivid in the video, wouldn't that mean your current monitor is capable of displaying that same color?:|

My current monitor is 19'' and mediocre quality putting a strain to the eyes

I mainly want it for graphics work and i need something bigger to stop panning things around and look cripser

[QUOTE="killzoneded"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

You mean, they looked amazing through your current PC monitor? I'm confused.:?

If the colors were that vivid in the video, wouldn't that mean your current monitor is capable of displaying that same color?:|

Nibroc420

My current monitor is 19'' and mediocre quality putting a strain to the eyes

I mainly want it for graphics work and i need something bigger to stop panning things around and look cripser

Indeed, but good colors is the only thing my monitor has good :)

Plus i was comparing Apple to the other screen in the video, relating to each other, since i have seen an Apple screen, so even if my monitor had bad color, i could still tell if the other monitor had good colors if they looked about same in it

[QUOTE="scoots9"]

Dell U2711

it is the 27" iMac screen

Firebird-5

this, it's the exact same panel except with an anti-glare coating. some say it makes it sparkle but i'd rather that instead of glare all up in my face

Wow. Look at all the unnecasery apple hate... First you guys claim they are made by the same manufacturer, then you claim the Apple Cinema display isn't as good... :? :roll:

Wow. Look at all the unnecasery apple hate... First you guys claim they are made by the same manufacturer, then you claim the Apple Cinema display isn't as good... :? :roll:

Urworstnhtmare

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Wow. Look at all the unnecasery apple hate... First you guys claim they are made by the same manufacturer, then you claim the Apple Cinema display isn't as good... :? :roll:

-CheeseEater-

:lol: Nice.

If you have signatures turned off I do have a Windows 7 PC... In fact I have my sig, a windows 3.1, a windows 3.1.1, a windows 95, and a windows 98 pc, aswell as a Mac Mini, an Emac, and an iMac. I have my fair share of both....

I just think there is alot of unfounded apple hate in this thread...

Wow. Look at all the unnecasery apple hate... First you guys claim they are made by the same manufacturer, then you claim the Apple Cinema display isn't as good... :? :roll:

Urworstnhtmare

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Wow. Look at all the unnecasery apple hate... First you guys claim they are made by the same manufacturer, then you claim the Apple Cinema display isn't as good... :? :roll:

CellAnimation

I have done some research, and as far as I can tell, the DISPLAYS are the same. The only difference apart from the extras (eg LED, speakers and camera on the Apple Cinema Display) the only difference is the Apple uses Mini Display Port, while the Dell can use HDMI 1.3, which can support 1.07 billion colors with Deep Color. Displayport it appears, as of now does not.

Get the Dell in this case.

[QUOTE="CellAnimation"][QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Wow. Look at all the unnecasery apple hate... First you guys claim they are made by the same manufacturer, then you claim the Apple Cinema display isn't as good... :? :roll:

Urworstnhtmare

I have done some research, and as far as I can tell, the DISPLAYS are the same. The only difference apart from the extras (eg LED, speakers and camera on the Apple Cinema Display) the only difference is the Apple uses Mini Display Port, while the Dell can use HDMI 1.3, which can support 1.07 billion colors with Deep Color. Displayport it appears, as of now does not.

Get the Dell in this case.

ACD has LED backlighting, which means that the CCFL backlit Dell has a wider colour gamut, as well as the 30 bit colour. the U2711 is targeted towards professionals, but it is affordable and better than the ACD.

Just to add.

It's not about apple hate but just that the 27" cinema display is a completely impractical display. For purely watching movies who would get that over a 1k plasma?

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="CellAnimation"] Actually I don't hate Apple at all, the facts with the U2711 and the iMac 27" / 27" Cinema Display are - the LCD in the Apple range washes out the colour, and only displays 70% of the colour range the U2711 does. This isn't hate, it's a fact.Firebird-5

I have done some research, and as far as I can tell, the DISPLAYS are the same. The only difference apart from the extras (eg LED, speakers and camera on the Apple Cinema Display) the only difference is the Apple uses Mini Display Port, while the Dell can use HDMI 1.3, which can support 1.07 billion colors with Deep Color. Displayport it appears, as of now does not.

Get the Dell in this case.

ACD has LED backlighting, which means that the CCFL backlit Dell has a wider colour gamut, as well as the 30 bit colour. the U2711 is targeted towards professionals, but it is affordable and better than the ACD.

Just to add.

Its a two edged sword. On one hand you are getting better slightly colour reproduction, but at the cost of higher power usage, and mercury...

For consumers the ACD is arguably better. You get a webcam, and stereo speakers, a brighter screen, and lower power draw for $50. Sounds pretty reasonable for an apple product...

It's not about apple hate but just that the 27" cinema display is a completely impractical display. For purely watching movies who would get that over a 1k plasma?

Gambler_3

Why would you get a plasma for watching movies...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009286

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

It's not about apple hate but just that the 27" cinema display is a completely impractical display. For purely watching movies who would get that over a 1k plasma?

Urworstnhtmare

Why would you get a plasma for watching movies...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009286

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

I have done some research, and as far as I can tell, the DISPLAYS are the same. The only difference apart from the extras (eg LED, speakers and camera on the Apple Cinema Display) the only difference is the Apple uses Mini Display Port, while the Dell can use HDMI 1.3, which can support 1.07 billion colors with Deep Color. Displayport it appears, as of now does not.

Get the Dell in this case.

Urworstnhtmare

ACD has LED backlighting, which means that the CCFL backlit Dell has a wider colour gamut, as well as the 30 bit colour. the U2711 is targeted towards professionals, but it is affordable and better than the ACD.

Just to add.

Its a two edged sword. On one hand you are getting better slightly colour reproduction, but at the cost of higher power usage, and mercury...

For consumers the ACD is arguably better. You get a webcam, and stereo speakers, a brighter screen, and lower power draw for $50. Sounds pretty reasonable for an apple product...

calibrated (!!) (how many consumers actually calibrate their monitors) the power consumption difference is 2.64kWhrs (on 4 hours every day for a month, that costs about 30c-40c), extremely negligible to the consumer. mercury also isn't a problem to the consumer unless they crack open the monitor and have a good sit down and inhale all the good stuff. while valid externalities that favour the LED, if you want better colour reproduction, then the costs of owning a U2711 are too small to matter.

Webcam, I concede that point.

Stereo speakers: also conceded, but you'd assume that people willing to shell out for a 'cinema display' or a high quality screen might have a quality audio solution or are going to buy one.

As for brightness, it washes out the colours so it's counterproductive. how many more lux (cd/m^2) do you need after 350?

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

ACD has LED backlighting, which means that the CCFL backlit Dell has a wider colour gamut, as well as the 30 bit colour. the U2711 is targeted towards professionals, but it is affordable and better than the ACD.

Just to add.

Firebird-5

Its a two edged sword. On one hand you are getting better slightly colour reproduction, but at the cost of higher power usage, and mercury...

For consumers the ACD is arguably better. You get a webcam, and stereo speakers, a brighter screen, and lower power draw for $50. Sounds pretty reasonable for an apple product...

calibrated (!!) (how many consumers actually calibrate their monitors) the power consumption difference is 2.64kWhrs (on 4 hours every day for a month, that costs about 30c-40c), extremely negligible to the consumer. mercury also isn't a problem to the consumer unless they crack open the monitor and have a good sit down and inhale all the good stuff. while valid externalities that favour the LED, if you want better colour reproduction, then the costs of owning a U2711 are too small to matter.

Webcam, I concede that point.

Stereo speakers: also conceded, but you'd assume that people willing to shell out for a 'cinema display' or a high quality screen might have a quality audio solution or are going to buy one.

As for brightness, it washes out the colours so it's counterproductive. how many more lux (cd/m^2) do you need after 350?

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

It's not about apple hate but just that the 27" cinema display is a completely impractical display. For purely watching movies who would get that over a 1k plasma?

Urworstnhtmare

Why would you get a plasma for watching movies...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009286

Because plasma has a far superior picture?

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

It's not about apple hate but just that the 27" cinema display is a completely impractical display. For purely watching movies who would get that over a 1k plasma?

ChubbyGuy40

Why would you get a plasma for watching movies...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009286

Because plasma has a far superior picture?

For watching movies, it is all about the atmosphere. I have a $700 1080p Projector and a 86inch screen and it is phenominal for watchin films on and playing games on... Far better experience that a 40ish inch tv...

Show me a 86 inch Plasma for $700.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Why would you get a plasma for watching movies...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009286

Urworstnhtmare

Because plasma has a far superior picture?

For watching movies, it is all about the atmosphere. I have a $700 1080p Projector and a 86inch screen and it is phenominal for watchin films on and playing games on... Far better experience that a 40ish inch tv...

Show me a 86 inch Plasma for $700.

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Because plasma has a far superior picture?

Gambler_3

For watching movies, it is all about the atmosphere. I have a $700 1080p Projector and a 86inch screen and it is phenominal for watchin films on and playing games on... Far better experience that a 40ish inch tv...

Show me a 86 inch Plasma for $700.

Um, yah. Thats why people go to the cinema...

My projector has excellent picture quality. And of course its never going to have plasma level blacks. Its a projector...

Did I mention its 86inchs... :roll: and $700...

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

For watching movies, it is all about the atmosphere. I have a $700 1080p Projector and a 86inch screen and it is phenominal for watchin films on and playing games on... Far better experience that a 40ish inch tv...

Show me a 86 inch Plasma for $700.

Urworstnhtmare

Um, yah. Thats why people go to the cinema...

My projector has excellent picture quality. And of course its never going to have plasma level blacks. Its a projector...

Did I mention its 86inchs... :roll: and $700...

Even when I do rearly go to cinema the movie is hardly the reason, the theater is just a social place, movies I enjoy most in my home with my headphones watching all alone.

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]lol wut? The atmosphere matters most to you, for me it's all about picture quality. Wake me up when your projector has plasma level blacks!!

Gambler_3

Um, yah. Thats why people go to the cinema...

My projector has excellent picture quality. And of course its never going to have plasma level blacks. Its a projector...

Did I mention its 86inchs... :roll: and $700...

Even when I do rearly go to cinema the movie is hardly the reason, the theater is just a social place, movies I enjoy most in my home with my headphones watching all alone.

I watch movies with friends at my place... And you watch movies with headphones... :?