Is there a way to make my PC boot faster?

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#1 RobboElRobbo
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It takes a good minute to boot up. I have 4gb DDR2, HD4850, 3.01ghz Athlon X2, and a 640gb 5400rpm (I think...) Caviar Green HDD. Is there something I can do to make it faster? There's one screen that comes up after the energy star screen with a ton of numbers and stuff, I forget totally what it says but if you like I can check what it's for. That screen takes a good 10 seconds.

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#2 fatcat13sep
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It takes a good minute to boot up. I have 4gb DDR2, HD4850, 3.01ghz Athlon X2, and a 640gb 5400rpm (I think...) Caviar Green HDD. Is there something I can do to make it faster? There's one screen that comes up after the energy star screen with a ton of numbers and stuff, I forget totally what it says but if you like I can check what it's for. That screen takes a good 10 seconds.

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yea probably not you can disable somethings in msconfig but a calvier green is just not fast at all

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#3 Daytona_178
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start -> run -> msconfig

Under services tick the "hide all microsoft services" then select "disable all",,,then find anything related to your anti-virus or other ESSENTIAL software that needs to auto-load with windows.

Then go to "startup" and again de-select all but turn on essential stuff like anti-virus.

Then press Apply and restart.

There you go, super fast boot times :) Well providing you dont have malware :P

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Also if your using Vista/Windows 7 then while your in MSCONFIG then under Boot -> advanced options you can tell windows to use more than one cpu core while booting up...as it only uses 1 core by default.

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#5 RobboElRobbo
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Alright thanks guys... I'll see if it works better right after this is done burning. ;)

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#6 RobboElRobbo
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Hmm... kinda helped. Maybe I just need a reformat. Has been about 7 months now so that's probably it.

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A minute isn't that long...
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#8 Joe77
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My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

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#9 Domobomb
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My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

Joe77

Sounds like sleep mode. Probably not a cold boot.

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My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

Joe77
ASRock motherboards use that. Actually, you're computer isn't really "off". It's put into a suspended hibernation mode, which is why you're instructed to not cut the power. Basically, all your current settings/programs and such are held in memory (I'm guessing your RAM, since once you cut the power any info in your RAM is lost, which is why you're asked to not turn the power off from your computer). When you turn your computer back on it kicks out of its hibernation and quickly puts you back to where you last left off - so to speak. I was using the Instant Boot with my ASRock MB for a while, but it really only saves me maybe 15 seconds. 15 seconds isn't a make or break thing for me, so I opted to turn it off. It's a nice feature, but not really needed for me. Also, I found that setting MSConfig option of booting with more than 1 core on your CPU isn't really a time saver either, maybe a couple of seconds.
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#11 Joe77
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[QUOTE="Joe77"]

My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

Domobomb

Sounds like sleep mode. Probably not a cold boot.

It's not sleep mode, you turn the pc off. Then next time you turn it on windows loads in seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BucIjXZVxXo

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#12 Joe77
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[QUOTE="Joe77"]

My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

neatfeatguy

ASRock motherboards use that. Actually, you're computer isn't really "off". It's put into a suspended hibernation mode, which is why you're instructed to not cut the power. Basically, all your current settings/programs and such are held in memory (I'm guessing your RAM, since once you cut the power any info in your RAM is lost, which is why you're asked to not turn the power off from your computer). When you turn your computer back on it kicks out of its hibernation and quickly puts you back to where you last left off - so to speak. I was using the Instant Boot with my ASRock MB for a while, but it really only saves me maybe 15 seconds. 15 seconds isn't a make or break thing for me, so I opted to turn it off. It's a nice feature, but not really needed for me. Also, I found that setting MSConfig option of booting with more than 1 core on your CPU isn't really a time saver either, maybe a couple of seconds.

Oh right I didn't know that, it still has the same effect though and I imagine it's using very little power.

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[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="Joe77"]

My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

Joe77

ASRock motherboards use that. Actually, you're computer isn't really "off". It's put into a suspended hibernation mode, which is why you're instructed to not cut the power. Basically, all your current settings/programs and such are held in memory (I'm guessing your RAM, since once you cut the power any info in your RAM is lost, which is why you're asked to not turn the power off from your computer). When you turn your computer back on it kicks out of its hibernation and quickly puts you back to where you last left off - so to speak. I was using the Instant Boot with my ASRock MB for a while, but it really only saves me maybe 15 seconds. 15 seconds isn't a make or break thing for me, so I opted to turn it off. It's a nice feature, but not really needed for me. Also, I found that setting MSConfig option of booting with more than 1 core on your CPU isn't really a time saver either, maybe a couple of seconds.

Oh right I didn't know that, it still has the same effect though and I imagine it's using very little power.

I do believe it uses less power then you would if you were to completely turn your computer off like most other people do. In the end, it just takes less juice to power everything on then it would from a cold start.
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run>msconfig untick pretty much everything under boot except the important things, like av and sound and graphics drivers. you can really speed up the boot times before the windows loading screen, also a 5400 rpm drive doesn't help.
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[QUOTE="Domobomb"]

[QUOTE="Joe77"]

My motherboard has something called "instant boot" and it boots in about 7 seconds. Don't know if other motherboards have it though.

Joe77

Sounds like sleep mode. Probably not a cold boot.

It's not sleep mode, you turn the pc off. Then next time you turn it on windows loads in seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BucIjXZVxXo

that's no cold boot, it's just sleep mode. with no windows loading screen it is obvious it is wake from sleep mode.
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Also if your using Vista/Windows 7 then while your in MSCONFIG then under Boot -> advanced options you can tell windows to use more than one cpu core while booting up...as it only uses 1 core by default.

Daytona_178
that's not really true. it uses multiple by default. that setting is for troubleshooting. a lot of people are confused by that setting. google it.
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#17 StraiN-ShifTeD
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Here are a few links you could follow to get the best out of your PC. They worked REALLY good for me, good luck with it.

  • http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2333314,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532
  • http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2110595,00.asp
  • http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-speed-up-windows-7-boot/
  • http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-speedup-windows-xp-vista-boot/
  • http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/5160/the-20-best-windows-tweaks-that-still-work-in-windows-7/
  • http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2348418,00.asp
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I don't understand why anybody looking for help would choose to type in an obnoxious font which makes it harder for people who might want to help to read.

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Your hard drive is what is slowing your boot time 5400 rpm wont win you any speed contest. Grab a faster hard drive or cheap ssd for your os that will speed everything up. The storage is the main bottle neck in almost every pc.

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JKdefrag Run this Defragger/Optimizer/Fixup Tool. Really improved my boot times and system overall.

1) Defragment only.

2) Optimize Monthly.

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Your hard drive is what is slowing your boot time 5400 rpm wont win you any speed contest. Grab a faster hard drive or cheap ssd for your os that will speed everything up. The storage is the main bottle neck in almost every pc.

ChiChiMonKilla
Thats not true at all.
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#22 VespertineStar
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Try using hibernation mode or hybrid sleep mode. The former uses no power at all when your PC is off and the latter only uses very little. It's much easier to get going again than cold booting every single time and saves time too.
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#23 osiris667
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If $$$ isn't a problem, get an ssd :D

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#24 expanded
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If $$$ isn't a problem, get an ssd :D

osiris667

he speaks of truth.. cuts down some time in a good amount of seconds :o.. wish they would be cheaper though with more space!
tbh though.. you can just get like a 32GB or something SSD and install win7 on that.. and just keep your old HDD to store all your info and stuff
boot with the SSD.. and have games etc. installed on your HDD

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Why even shut it down when you can use sleep mode.
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

Your hard drive is what is slowing your boot time 5400 rpm wont win you any speed contest. Grab a faster hard drive or cheap ssd for your os that will speed everything up. The storage is the main bottle neck in almost every pc.

Daytona_178
Thats not true at all.

To a degree it is. But the caviar green are a slow drive becuase its low heat low performance drive. People like to use them in HTPCs i think.
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

Your hard drive is what is slowing your boot time 5400 rpm wont win you any speed contest. Grab a faster hard drive or cheap ssd for your os that will speed everything up. The storage is the main bottle neck in almost every pc.

Daytona_178

Thats not true at all.

Think about it cpu, gpu, memory speed have all increased by alot over the last 5 years but hard drive speed and the interface has not. The raptor has been the speed king for years and it's only recently ssd's have become affordable.

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

Your hard drive is what is slowing your boot time 5400 rpm wont win you any speed contest. Grab a faster hard drive or cheap ssd for your os that will speed everything up. The storage is the main bottle neck in almost every pc.

ChiChiMonKilla

Thats not true at all.

Think about it cpu, gpu, memory speed have all increased by alot over the last 5 years but hard drive speed and the interface has not. The raptor has been the speed king for years and it's only recently ssd's have become affordable.

But providing its SATA you wont find a HDD that makes windows load like crap...it might just add a couple of seconds onto the load time. So yeah he could ditch his HDD for a faster one and that will gain him maybe 3 seconds on his boot time compared to if he just formatted/re-installed his current drive.
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#29 StraiN-ShifTeD
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"] Thats not true at all.Daytona_178

Think about it cpu, gpu, memory speed have all increased by alot over the last 5 years but hard drive speed and the interface has not. The raptor has been the speed king for years and it's only recently ssd's have become affordable.

But providing its SATA you wont find a HDD that makes windows load like crap...it might just add a couple of seconds onto the load time. So yeah he could ditch his HDD for a faster one and that will gain him maybe 3 seconds on his boot time compared to if he just formatted/re-installed his current drive.

Uhmm, an SSD will exponentially decrease boot time when compared to a regular harddisk. It will even more when compared to a - slow - 5400 RPM harddrive. A decent SSD has 0.1ms access time, while harddisks: 4200 RPM = 7.14ms, 5400 RPM = 5.55ms, 7200 RPM = 4.17ms, 10k RPM = 3ms, 15k RPM = 2ms. Not to talk about an SSD's read/write speeds.

The harddisk nowadays definitely is the only 'bottleneck' for the current hardware. But knowing SSDs are really expensive, it usually leads to customers putting two harddisks in RAID-0, which is fast enough.

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

Think about it cpu, gpu, memory speed have all increased by alot over the last 5 years but hard drive speed and the interface has not. The raptor has been the speed king for years and it's only recently ssd's have become affordable.

StraiN-ShifTeD

But providing its SATA you wont find a HDD that makes windows load like crap...it might just add a couple of seconds onto the load time. So yeah he could ditch his HDD for a faster one and that will gain him maybe 3 seconds on his boot time compared to if he just formatted/re-installed his current drive.

Uhmm, an SSD will exponentially decrease boot time when compared to a regular harddisk. It will even more when compared to a - slow - 5400 RPM harddrive. A decent SSD has 0.1ms access time, while harddisks: 4200 RPM = 7.14ms, 5400 RPM = 5.55ms, 7200 RPM = 4.17ms, 10k RPM = 3ms, 15k RPM = 2ms. Not to talk about an SSD's read/write speeds.

The harddisk nowadays definitely is the only 'bottleneck' for the current hardware. But knowing SSDs are really expensive, it usually leads to customers putting two harddisks in RAID-0, which is fast enough.

Thats not the point iam making, if you have a good clean install of windows and msconfig all of the **** away then even a budget HDD on a powerful system will load windows in a lot less than a minute.

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#31 StraiN-ShifTeD
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[QUOTE="StraiN-ShifTeD"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"] But providing its SATA you wont find a HDD that makes windows load like crap...it might just add a couple of seconds onto the load time. So yeah he could ditch his HDD for a faster one and that will gain him maybe 3 seconds on his boot time compared to if he just formatted/re-installed his current drive.Daytona_178

Uhmm, an SSD will exponentially decrease boot time when compared to a regular harddisk. It will even more when compared to a - slow - 5400 RPM harddrive. A decent SSD has 0.1ms access time, while harddisks: 4200 RPM = 7.14ms, 5400 RPM = 5.55ms, 7200 RPM = 4.17ms, 10k RPM = 3ms, 15k RPM = 2ms. Not to talk about an SSD's read/write speeds.

The harddisk nowadays definitely is the only 'bottleneck' for the current hardware. But knowing SSDs are really expensive, it usually leads to customers putting two harddisks in RAID-0, which is fast enough.

Thats not the point iam making, if you have a good clean install of windows and msconfig all of the **** away then even a budget HDD on a powerful system will load windows in a lot less than a minute.

Yeah you're right, guess I didn't get the point. :P But the longer you use your computer, the more trash gets on it, the slower it will get. So having a decent harddrive from the start will get your more in the ending. :)
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Think about it cpu, gpu, memory speed have all increased by alot over the last 5 years but hard drive speed and the interface has not. The raptor has been the speed king for years and it's only recently ssd's have become affordable.

ChiChiMonKilla

True, the storage is almost always the performance bottleneck in a modern PC. The RAM and CPU operate at speeds an order or two higher than the storage. While the SSD certainly is in the right direction towards deceasing this performance bottleneck, it's still too expensive IMO, epecially for the measly capacities they're peddling. :cry:

For improving boot-times, defrag will help, and probably optimization of the locations of the files that load during bootup will also help. This utility from Diskeeper (yeah the defrag compnay) is said to automatically learn the boot process and optimize it.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100323005556&newsLang=en

Apparently it will be available on Asus systems as an OEM install at first.

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Also if your using Vista/Windows 7 then while your in MSCONFIG then under Boot -> advanced options you can tell windows to use more than one cpu core while booting up...as it only uses 1 core by default.

Daytona_178

Just a heads up for anyone reading, I wouldn't recommend doing this if you're afraid of tinkering with some advanced computing since this procedure may cause your computer to lock up and crash after the login screen. No way to access your computer without going into safe mode and changing the boot-up process back to 1 core.

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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

Think about it cpu, gpu, memory speed have all increased by alot over the last 5 years but hard drive speed and the interface has not. The raptor has been the speed king for years and it's only recently ssd's have become affordable.

Nanosteel

True, the storage is almost always the performance bottleneck in a modern PC. The RAM and CPU operate at speeds an order or two higher than the storage. While the SSD certainly is in the right direction towards deceasing this performance bottleneck, it's still too expensive IMO, epecially for the measly capacities they're peddling. :cry:

For improving boot-times, defrag will help, and probably optimization of the locations of the files that load during bootup will also help. This utility from Diskeeper (yeah the defrag compnay) is said to automatically learn the boot process and optimize it.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100323005556&newsLang=en

Apparently it will be available on Asus systems as an OEM install at first.

You can get a 1TB SSD drive right now that is PCIe interface. It's also bootable and faster than most of them out there, i forget the brand but it was $3800 last time i checked lol.

EDIT: Here it is. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227500

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Also if your using Vista/Windows 7 then while your in MSCONFIG then under Boot -> advanced options you can tell windows to use more than one cpu core while booting up...as it only uses 1 core by default.

CrazyKilljoy117

Just a heads up for anyone reading, I wouldn't recommend doing this if you're afraid of tinkering with some advanced computing since this procedure may cause your computer to lock up and crash after the login screen. No way to access your computer without going into safe mode and changing the boot-up process back to 1 core.

The can only happen if you dont hide the Microsoft services first.
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I can verify that Daytona's tips work - many thanks!

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[QUOTE="CrazyKilljoy117"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Also if your using Vista/Windows 7 then while your in MSCONFIG then under Boot -> advanced options you can tell windows to use more than one cpu core while booting up...as it only uses 1 core by default.

Daytona_178

Just a heads up for anyone reading, I wouldn't recommend doing this if you're afraid of tinkering with some advanced computing since this procedure may cause your computer to lock up and crash after the login screen. No way to access your computer without going into safe mode and changing the boot-up process back to 1 core.

The can only happen if you dont hide the Microsoft services first.

Yeah exactly, which your instructions didn't mention how to do it. People read these forums and that includes people who aren't very familiar with computers but somehow end up here when looking for help or from a google search.

You wouldn't believe how many people I've come across that "screwed up" their PC's after reading and doing something posted on the internet :P

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="CrazyKilljoy117"] Just a heads up for anyone reading, I wouldn't recommend doing this if you're afraid of tinkering with some advanced computing since this procedure may cause your computer to lock up and crash after the login screen. No way to access your computer without going into safe mode and changing the boot-up process back to 1 core.

CrazyKilljoy117

The can only happen if you dont hide the Microsoft services first.

Yeah exactly, which your instructions didn't mention how to do it. People read these forums and that includes people who aren't very familiar with computers but somehow end up here when looking for help or from a google search.

You wouldn't believe how many people I've come across that "screwed up" their PC's after reading and doing something posted on the internet :P

actually...they did include those instructions. He mentioned to tick the "Hide Microsoft Services" box

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#39 Daytona_178
Member since 2005 • 14962 Posts

I can verify that Daytona's tips work - many thanks!

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Aha, so iam not crazy after all! Mwhahahahahahahahahah