Is there any way to configure wep wireless router so it only accepts NDS.

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#1 Random__Guy
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If not i guess i gotta throw it out.
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#2 Staryoshi87
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Do you mean a Nintendo DS? I haven't connected my DS to the wi-fi in some time...but doesn't it allow you to connect to secure networks w/whatever the password is for the network? If so, just make a secure network and only use your DS on it.... Closest thing you'll get to it. Or buy an USB Wi-Fi adapter from Ninty.

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#3 Random__Guy
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before i buy the usb adaptor i just want to make sure there is no way to secure the wireless router.

 

From what i've read the ds only uses wep encryption and it seems like anyone can easily hack it no matter how you configure it.

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#4 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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So you want to make sure that your wireless router doesn't broadcast IP addresses?
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#5 Random__Guy
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So you want to make sure that your wireless router doesn't broadcast IP addresses?K_r_a_u_s_e_r

I want to make sure no one can steal my internet, i live in a big apartment building,  

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#6 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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Yeah, so you want to disable broadcasting, it's better than setting up a WEP encryption.

What kind of router do you have?
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#7 Random__Guy
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I have a zio wlb5254aip router, I know how to disable the broadcasting but this hack tool can still find you even if your not broadcasting.

 

I think the only you could fix this is if you set the router to only accept nds machine and nothing else, somehow????? 

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#8 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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If you disable broadcasting the only way someone can add their network device to your network is if they know the PIN. If somehow they figure this out and add themselves to your network you should see their MAC address within your router configuration and this must be banned.
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#9 Byshop  Moderator
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Yeah, so you want to disable broadcasting, it's better than setting up a WEP encryption.

What kind of router do you have?
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No, it absolutely is -not- better than setting up WEP.

Disabling SSID broadcasting mere obfuscates the presence of your wireless network from the most basic interfaces like the Windows Wireless Network Browser. It doesn't actually make your wireless network undetectable, it just makes it harder for Windows to see. If anyone is sniffing for wireless networks, the tools they would be using to find your network would still be able to read your SSID because it's broadcast unecrypted from the client computers.

As for WEP encryption, it's not great but it's often plenty. The problem with WEP encryption is that it uses a single, pre-shared encryption key. This will deny anyone access who doesn't have this encryption key, but the problem is the key can eventually be reconstructed by a third party if they listen to enough traffic between a client and the router. However, you usually don't need to worry about this because most people won't bother trying to crack a WEP encrypted wireless network. People who war drive (or in the case of an apartment building, war-couch surf) generally don't stop to try to crack every WEP network they find when there are tons and tons of completely unprotected wireless networks out there. Within range of my house I have about 5 wireless networks within range that have absolutely no encryption whatsoever. If my internet fails I can use any one of those 5 with absolutely no effort on my part. Now there are also 2-3 encrypted networks, but there's no need for me to bother with them.

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#10 Random__Guy
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But anyone who's bored and just screwing around hacking there nighbors is gonna try and hack everyone just for the hell of it.

The one guy who's got passwords will probably be the funnest one.They will get some kinda sense of satifaction out of beating his network

 

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#11 K_r_a_u_s_e_r
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Either way he's going to break into your system, have fun. 8)
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#12 Byshop  Moderator
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But anyone who's bored and just screwing around hacking there nighbors is gonna try and hack everyone just for the hell of it.

The one guy who's got passwords will probably be the funnest one. 

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I think you overestimate the ability of the average hacker. If it bothers you that much, all you need to do is periodically change your WEP key. Every time you do that the hacker has to start from scratch.

There are other things you can do to "harden" your wireless setup. Using MAC filtering is handy if you don't have a lot of client computers. MAC filtering allows you to set up your router to only accept traffic from pre-designated wireless network interface cards. If you program the MAC address of your DS into your router and set the router to dissallow any other wireless NICs that adds one more layer of protection. It's not foolproof because once a WEP key is cracked it's possible for the hacker to sniff your MAC address and clone it to one of their own NICs, but every added level helps.

Hell, you can even turn off your wireless when you aren't using it. :P

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#13 GamingMonkeyPC
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If your router can MAC Address filter, than yes, you should be able to ONLY allow the NDS to connect. You can find the NDS MAC Address by going to the NDS' WDS configuration information area.
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#14 Random__Guy
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Mac filtering doesent work, they can capture the code and spoff so there machine looks like the other,

 They can do all this with one easy to use program.

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#15 Byshop  Moderator
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The bottom line is nothing is foolproof, but if you add WEP to your network you greatly reduce the chances of someone even -trying- to access your network. Besides, even if they did what would happen? If someone gained unauthorized access to your wireless network, it would only grant them access to your internet connection. Your computers are still secure provided you keep up on security updates. Your user and administrator accounts are password protected (I assume) and even if they aren't, Windows denies all network access through non-passworded accounts by default as a security measure.

I'm a computer consultant. I've been working on and building computers since I was 16 (I'm 30 now) and all I use at home is WEP because I -also- have a DS. I have multiple servers on my network running 24/7 as well as several client boxes and a laptop, but I'm not worried because the odds of someone actually trying to crack your WEP just randomly are pretty low.

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#16 Random__Guy
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You need to set it up somehow so it reconizes the ds hardware and only allows that device, somehow????

 

If i lived in a house  (not huge appartment) i wouldent care.

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#17 Byshop  Moderator
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You need to set it up somehow so it reconizes the ds hardware and only allows that device, somehow????Random__Guy

The only way to do that is through MAC filtering, but as I already said that can be spoofed. Bottom line is it's up to you, everything is potentially a risk. What -you- have to do is weigh the potential damage versus the benefit. Sniffing only works -while- you have a client device talking to the router and -many- packets have to be sniffed before a key can be cracked. If it bothers you that much, change your key periodically.

If you've already made up your mind that WEP is totally insecure, then there's nothing else to talk about.

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#18 Random__Guy
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You need to set it up somehow so it reconizes the ds hardware and only allows that device, somehow????

 Random__Guy

 

The usb addaptor does this. isent there some kinda patch out there?Â