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#1 brandontwb
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CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core 1.60Ghz (might overclock to 2.4Ghz)

GPU: Nvidia 9500GT 512MB RAM

RAM: 4GB DDR2

PSU: 500W

I know the CPU is a bit slow, but do you think it will still run decently, specifically for gaming? Thanks.

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#2 Solid_Tango
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CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core 1.60Ghz

GPU: Nvidia 9800GT 512MB RAM

RAM: 4GB DDR2

I know the CPU is a bit slow, but do you think it will still run decently, specifically for gaming? Thanks.

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Meh, get a better cpu and gpu
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#3 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core 1.60Ghz

GPU: Nvidia 9800GT 512MB RAM

RAM: 4GB DDR2

I know the CPU is a bit slow, but do you think it will still run decently, specifically for gaming? Thanks.

Solid_Tango
Meh, get a better cpu and gpu

The GPU isn't good enough? I know the CPU is bad but I'm not looking to upgrade that. I just want to know if it will handle games decently...
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#4 agrippi
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no, it probably won't handle games "decently"...unless you mean old games or playing on low settings.
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#5 ticktocktick201
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gpu is fine, cpu is slow but you should run games ok

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#6 brandontwb
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no, it probably won't handle games "decently"...unless you mean old games or playing on low settings.agrippi
Old games on low settings? I thought it could handle games like Left 4 Dead at 30FPS on medium settings just because of my CPU, but that's decent for me.
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#7 KhanhAgE
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Well, the question is "What games do you want to play?". It it's Crysis, yes, a better GPU would be nice. But if it's something like The Sims 3, then a 9800GT is absolutely fine. But CPU is weak though. Try to get at least a Core2Duo of some sort, say E7400 since it looks like you're trying to keep it cheap.
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#8 brandontwb
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gpu is fine, cpu is slow but you should run games ok

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Thanks, it gets kind of tiring when people keep on saying, "it needs to be better" all the time :D. A x2 AMD at 2.3Ghz is only around $50 so I could always upgrade later on.
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#9 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="KhanhAgE"]Well, the question is "What games do you want to play?". It it's Crysis, yes, a better GPU would be nice. But if it's something like The Sims 3, then a 9800GT is absolutely fine. But CPU is weak though. Try to get at least a Core2Duo of some sort, say E7400 since it looks like you're trying to keep it cheap.

Can you recommend a good graphics card at around $100? I thought the 9800GT a good graphics card. Or is it about the best you can get you $100?
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#10 KhanhAgE
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The 9800GT is a good card IMO. The only other card that competes with it in that price bracket is the ATI 4850 and 4830. But in that price bracket both nVidia and ATI are pretty much on par with each other. Some games favour nVidia, some favour ATI. You mention L4D and I think that runs some what better on ATI than nVidia. But in truth you wouldn't notice the difference, because anything over 60FPS in a shooter is consider smooth gameplay.
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#11 brandontwb
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The 9800GT is a good card IMO. The only other card that competes with it in that price bracket is the ATI 4850 and 4830. But in that price bracket both nVidia and ATI are pretty much on par with each other. Some games favour nVidia, some favour ATI. You mention L4D and I think that runs some what better on ATI than nVidia. But in truth you wouldn't notice the difference, because anything over 60FPS in a shooter is consider smooth gameplay. KhanhAgE
So your saying that with my specs I can run Left 4 Dead at 60FPS :D. (On medium settings, I presume)
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[QUOTE="KhanhAgE"]The 9800GT is a good card IMO. The only other card that competes with it in that price bracket is the ATI 4850 and 4830. But in that price bracket both nVidia and ATI are pretty much on par with each other. Some games favour nVidia, some favour ATI. You mention L4D and I think that runs some what better on ATI than nVidia. But in truth you wouldn't notice the difference, because anything over 60FPS in a shooter is consider smooth gameplay. brandontwb
So your saying that with my specs I can run Left 4 Dead at 60FPS :D. (On medium settings, I presume)

I have a 9600GT and I run L4D on high.
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="KhanhAgE"]The 9800GT is a good card IMO. The only other card that competes with it in that price bracket is the ATI 4850 and 4830. But in that price bracket both nVidia and ATI are pretty much on par with each other. Some games favour nVidia, some favour ATI. You mention L4D and I think that runs some what better on ATI than nVidia. But in truth you wouldn't notice the difference, because anything over 60FPS in a shooter is consider smooth gameplay. KhanhAgE
So your saying that with my specs I can run Left 4 Dead at 60FPS :D. (On medium settings, I presume)

I have a 9600GT and I run L4D on high.

But I'm wondering about my processor which is kind of crappy. Do they usually have much to do with FPS?
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#14 pureskull123
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Your video is fine, i use to have a 9800gt, and runned left 4 dead at 70 fps fully maxed out.

Your processor is old, you need to get a amd in my opinion since i belive your board is not compatible with a core 2 duo.

THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL NEED TO GET A NEW BOARD COMPATIBLE WITH AMD PHENOM 940 OR 955.

BECAUSE INTEL CORE 2 DUOS ARE OVERPRICED PIECE SH.... AND YOULL REGRET NOT GETTING A QUAD CORE LIKE THE 940 AND 955 WHICH ARE AROUND THE 200 BUCKS, UNLIKE THE INTEL QUAD CORE 340 DOLLARS ROFL.

a year or 2 from now core 2 duos will be junk, i believe they are junk now

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#15 brandontwb
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Your video is fine, i use to have a 9800gt, and runned left 4 dead at 70 fps fully maxed out.

Your processor is old, you need to get a amd in my opinion since i belive your board is not compatible with a core 2 duo.

THEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL NEED TO GET A NEW BOARD COMPATIBLE WITH AMD PHENOM 940 OR 955.

BECAUSE INTEL CORE 2 DUOS ARE OVERPRICED PIECE SH.... AND YOULL REGRET NOT GETTING A QUAD CORE LIKE THE 940 AND 955 WHICH ARE AROUND THE 200 BUCKS, UNLIKE THE INTEL QUAD CORE 340 DOLLARS ROFL.

a year or 2 from now core 2 duos will be junk, i believe they are junk now

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I was thinking about getting and AMDx2 but later on. Right now I need to know if it will run decently even with the low P.O.S. CPU!
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that card is way to powerful for that cpu.dual cores are nothing but pentium4's put together,so i dont think you will get the performance that others got with core 2 duos and quads.

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#17 dared3vil0
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Around 100 great card and 2 free games:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133246

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#18 subrosian
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[QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

gpu is fine, cpu is slow but you should run games ok

brandontwb
Thanks, it gets kind of tiring when people keep on saying, "it needs to be better" all the time :D. A x2 AMD at 2.3Ghz is only around $50 so I could always upgrade later on.

If by "x2 AMD" you mean the "Athlon x2" series, you need to set your goals higher. Your CPU is THE bottleneck in your system - it's holding back your 9800gt, it's keeping you from getting high framerates, and it's limiting the games you can play. - Your 9800gt can run the majority of games out there - you could even run Crysis Warhead if you use the "Mainstream" setting. =HOWEVER= your CPU will keep you from doing that right now. Games like Crysis Warhead, Dawn of War II, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age Origins, and even Batman: Arkham Asylum - don't adjust well for weaker CPUs. You can turn down a few settings like "Physics" to try and reduce the load - but at the end of the day, games don't scale as well for CPUs as they do for GPUs. - If you *must* upgrade something in your system, I would seriously consider going to a fast Phenom II x3 ~ Phenom II x4, or an i7 platform - those are going to improve your performance more than any other upgrade you can buy. Getting a Phenom II x4 940 on an AM2+ mobo would even let you reuse your RAM - and you'd have a jump in your minimum framerates in most games.
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#19 brandontwb
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that card is way to powerful for that cpu.dual cores are nothing but pentium4's put together,so i dont think you will get the performance that others got with core 2 duos and quads.

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Does that mean it wont work with my CPU?
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#20 subrosian
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I was thinking about getting and AMDx2 but later on. Right now I need to know if it will run decently even with the low P.O.S. CPU!brandontwb
Do not buy anything less than a Phenom II x4 - why replace one junky CPU with another? Your 9800gt is *fine* - but in terms of processing power - you are going to be in trouble running CPU-limited games like Crysis, Dawn of War II, etc... - For more GPU-limited games you should be fine.
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#21 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="ticktocktick201"]

gpu is fine, cpu is slow but you should run games ok

subrosian
Thanks, it gets kind of tiring when people keep on saying, "it needs to be better" all the time :D. A x2 AMD at 2.3Ghz is only around $50 so I could always upgrade later on.

If by "x2 AMD" you mean the "Athlon x2" series, you need to set your goals higher. Your CPU is THE bottleneck in your system - it's holding back your 9800gt, it's keeping you from getting high framerates, and it's limiting the games you can play. - Your 9800gt can run the majority of games out there - you could even run Crysis Warhead if you use the "Mainstream" setting. =HOWEVER= your CPU will keep you from doing that right now. Games like Crysis Warhead, Dawn of War II, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age Origins, and even Batman: Arkham Asylum - don't adjust well for weaker CPUs. You can turn down a few settings like "Physics" to try and reduce the load - but at the end of the day, games don't scale as well for CPUs as they do for GPUs. - If you *must* upgrade something in your system, I would seriously consider going to a fast Phenom II x3 ~ Phenom II x4, or an i7 platform - those are going to improve your performance more than any other upgrade you can buy. Getting a Phenom II x4 940 on an AM2+ mobo would even let you reuse your RAM - and you'd have a jump in your minimum framerates in most games.

I don't have the 4GB ram or the card yet. I need to get those and a power supply which means I wont have enough money for a CPU. I'm thinking of overclocking it to about 2.0Ghz or more.
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#22 subrosian
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[QUOTE="onfire23"]

that card is way to powerful for that cpu.dual cores are nothing but pentium4's put together,so i dont think you will get the performance that others got with core 2 duos and quads.

brandontwb
Does that mean it wont work with my CPU?

It will work with your GPU - he's simply saying you are going to have your "performance" limited by your CPU.
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#23 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]Thanks, it gets kind of tiring when people keep on saying, "it needs to be better" all the time :D. A x2 AMD at 2.3Ghz is only around $50 so I could always upgrade later on.brandontwb
If by "x2 AMD" you mean the "Athlon x2" series, you need to set your goals higher. Your CPU is THE bottleneck in your system - it's holding back your 9800gt, it's keeping you from getting high framerates, and it's limiting the games you can play. - Your 9800gt can run the majority of games out there - you could even run Crysis Warhead if you use the "Mainstream" setting. =HOWEVER= your CPU will keep you from doing that right now. Games like Crysis Warhead, Dawn of War II, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age Origins, and even Batman: Arkham Asylum - don't adjust well for weaker CPUs. You can turn down a few settings like "Physics" to try and reduce the load - but at the end of the day, games don't scale as well for CPUs as they do for GPUs. - If you *must* upgrade something in your system, I would seriously consider going to a fast Phenom II x3 ~ Phenom II x4, or an i7 platform - those are going to improve your performance more than any other upgrade you can buy. Getting a Phenom II x4 940 on an AM2+ mobo would even let you reuse your RAM - and you'd have a jump in your minimum framerates in most games.

I don't have the 4GB ram or the card yet. I need to get those and a power supply which means I wont have enough money for a CPU. I'm thinking of overclocking it to about 2.0Ghz or more.

Wait... so right now you have a Pentium Dual Core - and you have not bought a PSU, RAM, or your GPU? - Why spend all your money salvaging an old platform, when you will get better performance in the long run by going to something new / better? What games are you planning to play?
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#24 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="onfire23"]

that card is way to powerful for that cpu.dual cores are nothing but pentium4's put together,so i dont think you will get the performance that others got with core 2 duos and quads.

subrosian
Does that mean it wont work with my CPU?

It will work with your GPU - he's simply saying you are going to have your "performance" limited by your CPU.

Oh okay. Also, I have another question. Since I have a micro ATV machine, I need a micro power supply. The highest micro I can find is 400W and the card's requirement is 400W. Is it safe that my PSU will be running at full? Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="subrosian"] If by "x2 AMD" you mean the "Athlon x2" series, you need to set your goals higher. Your CPU is THE bottleneck in your system - it's holding back your 9800gt, it's keeping you from getting high framerates, and it's limiting the games you can play. - Your 9800gt can run the majority of games out there - you could even run Crysis Warhead if you use the "Mainstream" setting. =HOWEVER= your CPU will keep you from doing that right now. Games like Crysis Warhead, Dawn of War II, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age Origins, and even Batman: Arkham Asylum - don't adjust well for weaker CPUs. You can turn down a few settings like "Physics" to try and reduce the load - but at the end of the day, games don't scale as well for CPUs as they do for GPUs. - If you *must* upgrade something in your system, I would seriously consider going to a fast Phenom II x3 ~ Phenom II x4, or an i7 platform - those are going to improve your performance more than any other upgrade you can buy. Getting a Phenom II x4 940 on an AM2+ mobo would even let you reuse your RAM - and you'd have a jump in your minimum framerates in most games.

I don't have the 4GB ram or the card yet. I need to get those and a power supply which means I wont have enough money for a CPU. I'm thinking of overclocking it to about 2.0Ghz or more.

Wait... so right now you have a Pentium Dual Core - and you have not bought a PSU, RAM, or your GPU? - Why spend all your money salvaging an old platform, when you will get better performance in the long run by going to something new / better? What games are you planning to play?

I'm not building a computer, I'm just replacing some stuff in my current one. I'm planning to play Left 4 Dead at high frame rate. I don't think anything will be going to waste because when I go to build a custom computer later on, I take out the RAM and video card and put it in my new unit.
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]I don't have the 4GB ram or the card yet. I need to get those and a power supply which means I wont have enough money for a CPU. I'm thinking of overclocking it to about 2.0Ghz or more.brandontwb
Wait... so right now you have a Pentium Dual Core - and you have not bought a PSU, RAM, or your GPU? - Why spend all your money salvaging an old platform, when you will get better performance in the long run by going to something new / better? What games are you planning to play?

I'm not building a computer, I'm just replacing some stuff in my current one. I'm planning to play Left 4 Dead at high frame rate. I don't think anything will be going to waste because when I go to build a custom computer later on, I take out the RAM and video card and put it in my new unit.

I would build it all at once.

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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="subrosian"] Wait... so right now you have a Pentium Dual Core - and you have not bought a PSU, RAM, or your GPU? - Why spend all your money salvaging an old platform, when you will get better performance in the long run by going to something new / better? What games are you planning to play?joshuahaveron

I'm not building a computer, I'm just replacing some stuff in my current one. I'm planning to play Left 4 Dead at high frame rate. I don't think anything will be going to waste because when I go to build a custom computer later on, I take out the RAM and video card and put it in my new unit.

I would build it all at once.

Don't have the money. t
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#28 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]Does that mean it wont work with my CPU?brandontwb
It will work with your GPU - he's simply saying you are going to have your "performance" limited by your CPU.

Oh okay. Also, I have another question. Since I have a micro ATV machine, I need a micro power supply. The highest micro I can find is 400W and the card's requirement is 400W. Is it safe that my PSU will be running at full? Thanks in advance.

Micro ATV? Do you mean "Micro ATX"? - If you have a standard ATX system, it does not matter if it is "micro" or not - a standard ATX power supply will work with any ATX system. However, it might not fit in your case. What's more concerning is that if this is a pre-built PC, it might not be ATX standard. Companies like Dell and Gateway are prone to using custom motherboard wiring, power switches, and drive connectors - correcting their non-standard wiring is not something a beginner should attempt to tackle. - And no - it's *never* safe to run your power supply at full capacity. Power supplies, especially inexpensive ones, are inefficient - they can't provide their full power output indefinitely, and will eventually break down. However, a 9800gt on a Pentium Dual-Core may be able to work with 400 watts - *but* that depends greatly on the power supply you're using. If you're discussing overclocking such a system, the power supply is the first place I'd start to worry about - something like an OCZ Modstream in the 500 watt+ range would make me far more comfortable.
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#29 subrosian
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[QUOTE="joshuahaveron"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]I'm not building a computer, I'm just replacing some stuff in my current one. I'm planning to play Left 4 Dead at high frame rate. I don't think anything will be going to waste because when I go to build a custom computer later on, I take out the RAM and video card and put it in my new unit.brandontwb

I would build it all at once.

Don't have the money. t

1. Download CPU-Z and post screenshots of each of the tabs 2. Download GPU-Z and do the same - you can use Photobucket if you need an image holder. - Also, if this is a pre-built machine, if you can get me the model number and manufacturer, I'll take a look and see what you can do. It sounds to me like you're basically trying to retrofit something in a way that's going to become an expensive nightmare for you. - This person is right, trying to turn a Honda Civic into a Porsche 911 by adding parts is more expensive than just buying a Porsche - that doesn't mean you can't upgrade your system - but we need to see what you have and be realistic about where you should, and shouldn't, be trying to upgrade.
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#30 johnny27
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upgrade the cpu asp the gpu is fine for now and no problems with the ram but the cpu is bottle necking u and don't even think of upgrading the gpu to anything more powerful as the bottleneck will be even more apparent and you might not even get the performance boost you where expecting.
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#31 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="joshuahaveron"]

I would build it all at once.

subrosian

Don't have the money. t

1. Download CPU-Z and post screenshots of each of the tabs 2. Download GPU-Z and do the same - you can use Photobucket if you need an image holder. - Also, if this is a pre-built machine, if you can get me the model number and manufacturer, I'll take a look and see what you can do. It sounds to me like you're basically trying to retrofit something in a way that's going to become an expensive nightmare for you. - This person is right, trying to turn a Honda Civic into a Porsche 911 by adding parts is more expensive than just buying a Porsche - that doesn't mean you can't upgrade your system - but we need to see what you have and be realistic about where you should, and shouldn't, be trying to upgrade.

IThere's no way this will cost more than a new computer. Now I'm thinking of getting the 8400 GS- $53.00 5 star rating lifetime warranty, 450W power supply- $40.00 5star 1 yr warranty, $40.00 2GB RAM 5 star lifetime warranty. Total $167.59 CAD including taxes and shipping/handling. How's that sound for running CSS, Battlefield 2 and Left 4 Dead?

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#32 steve2592
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]

CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core 1.60Ghz

GPU: Nvidia 9800GT 512MB RAM

RAM: 4GB DDR2

I know the CPU is a bit slow, but do you think it will still run decently, specifically for gaming? Thanks.

brandontwb
Meh, get a better cpu and gpu

The GPU isn't good enough? I know the CPU is bad but I'm not looking to upgrade that. I just want to know if it will handle games decently...

you should be able to play most games on the low setting with that cpu but the gpu should do fine
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#33 johnny27
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[QUOTE="KhanhAgE"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]So your saying that with my specs I can run Left 4 Dead at 60FPS :D. (On medium settings, I presume)brandontwb
I have a 9600GT and I run L4D on high.

But I'm wondering about my processor which is kind of crappy. Do they usually have much to do with FPS?

on l4d yeah when you just walking around not alot going on ur fps will be decent(even then a better processor will mean better fps) but once a horde comes your frame rate will go down really low due to your processor.

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#34 KhanhAgE
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]Don't have the money. tbrandontwb

1. Download CPU-Z and post screenshots of each of the tabs 2. Download GPU-Z and do the same - you can use Photobucket if you need an image holder. - Also, if this is a pre-built machine, if you can get me the model number and manufacturer, I'll take a look and see what you can do. It sounds to me like you're basically trying to retrofit something in a way that's going to become an expensive nightmare for you. - This person is right, trying to turn a Honda Civic into a Porsche 911 by adding parts is more expensive than just buying a Porsche - that doesn't mean you can't upgrade your system - but we need to see what you have and be realistic about where you should, and shouldn't, be trying to upgrade.

IThere's no way this will cost more than a new computer. Now I'm thinking of getting the 8400 GS- $53.00 5 star rating lifetime warranty, 450W power supply- $40.00 5star 1 yr warranty, $40.00 2GB RAM 5 star lifetime warranty. Total $167.59 CAD including taxes and shipping/handling. How's that sound for running CSS, Battlefield 2 and Left 4 Dead?

Umm.... I think you need to listen to what subrosian has been advising. If you really do have a pre-built system from say Dell, HP, Acer etc. you'll need to know that kind of upgrades it can take. My sister once had a pre-built Compaq system with non-standard ATX PSU, motherboard and case. Since the case wasn't ATX standard we couldn't fit a new ATX PSU in and basically had to buy a new case because of it. Oh, and a 8400 GS is just terrible. Do you need the extra RAM? How much do you have at the moment that you want to add another 2GB worth?
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]Don't have the money. tbrandontwb

1. Download CPU-Z and post screenshots of each of the tabs 2. Download GPU-Z and do the same - you can use Photobucket if you need an image holder. - Also, if this is a pre-built machine, if you can get me the model number and manufacturer, I'll take a look and see what you can do. It sounds to me like you're basically trying to retrofit something in a way that's going to become an expensive nightmare for you. - This person is right, trying to turn a Honda Civic into a Porsche 911 by adding parts is more expensive than just buying a Porsche - that doesn't mean you can't upgrade your system - but we need to see what you have and be realistic about where you should, and shouldn't, be trying to upgrade.

IThere's no way this will cost more than a new computer. Now I'm thinking of getting the 8400 GS- $53.00 5 star rating lifetime warranty, 450W power supply- $40.00 5star 1 yr warranty, $40.00 2GB RAM 5 star lifetime warranty. Total $167.59 CAD including taxes and shipping/handling. How's that sound for running CSS, Battlefield 2 and Left 4 Dead?

Terrible combination, well dont just go assuming like everyone else because of high ratings it means its a good "gaming" gpu, 8400gs wont let you do anything near 60fps even on low. tell you what, i just saw a 9800GT for $74.99 on newegg.com thats $21 over the 8400GS and still 10x more powerful than a 8400gs. IM assuming you live in canada? 2GB ram usually cost about $20...
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"] 1. Download CPU-Z and post screenshots of each of the tabs 2. Download GPU-Z and do the same - you can use Photobucket if you need an image holder. - Also, if this is a pre-built machine, if you can get me the model number and manufacturer, I'll take a look and see what you can do. It sounds to me like you're basically trying to retrofit something in a way that's going to become an expensive nightmare for you. - This person is right, trying to turn a Honda Civic into a Porsche 911 by adding parts is more expensive than just buying a Porsche - that doesn't mean you can't upgrade your system - but we need to see what you have and be realistic about where you should, and shouldn't, be trying to upgrade.KhanhAgE

IThere's no way this will cost more than a new computer. Now I'm thinking of getting the 8400 GS- $53.00 5 star rating lifetime warranty, 450W power supply- $40.00 5star 1 yr warranty, $40.00 2GB RAM 5 star lifetime warranty. Total $167.59 CAD including taxes and shipping/handling. How's that sound for running CSS, Battlefield 2 and Left 4 Dead?

Terrible combination, well dont just go assuming like everyone else because of high ratings it means its a good "gaming" gpu, 8400gs wont let you do anything near 60fps even on low. tell you what, i just saw a 9800GT for $74.99 on newegg.com thats $21 over the 8400GS and still 10x more powerful than a 8400gs. IM assuming you live in canada? 2GB ram usually cost about $20...

I'm going to go with the 9500gt instead, and 4 GB of ram with a 500W power supply. Would that be good considering a OC to 2.4 GHZ on my Pentium Dual Core?
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You haven't answered the questions about what system you have - does your motherboard even support overclocking? And no, a 9500gt is a bad way to go :|
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#38 brandontwb
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You haven't answered the questions about what system you have - does your motherboard even support overclocking? And no, a 9500gt is a bad way to go :|subrosian
No my system doesn't, so I will upgrade it later on. My mother board is an IPILP-LC Micro ATX motherboard. I'm getting the 9500gt because its $70. If you want to suggest a graphics card below $100 CAD be my guest. Thinking of upgrading the CPU to a Pentium Dual Core (2MB cache so basically same as DUO series) at 2.5Ghz.

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A Pentium Dual Core and a Core 2 Duo are not at all the same thing - having the same cache and clock speed doesn't mean they will have the same performance, due to massive architectural differences between the chips, die shrinks, etc... - Your original 9800gt, a Radeon HD 4830, 4770, or even a GeForce 9600gt would all be better GPUs for only a few dollars more.