Is this motion blur? and how can I get rid of it.

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#1 Dabbagins
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I bought a 47 inch lg 120hz 1080p about 6 months ago and was playing games with the default tv settings but I was noticing a lot of this "blurish" thing around the characters during cut scenes for some games and even during gameplay when I would get close to walls or wall run in uncharted I would get this terrible looking"blur"? around the character. It was a big disappointment until I came here to the video/audio message board and did some research and found out I should have sharpness to 0? well mine was at default 70.When I brought it down to 0 and lowered contrast and brightness to 50 like it was said here, it decreased the "blur" I was seeing and improved the picture by a mile. Still I sometimes see it even after doing that picture adjustment, specially when I'm near walls.lol Is there any way I can completely get rid of this motion blur if that's what it is. Maybe someone can give me an idea to exactly what my picture settings should be at so I don't see this anymore. I'm using standard mode 16:9 with hdmi cable if that helps.

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#2 WiiRocks66
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Sharpness should be at 50. That is the equivalent if no enhancements on LG sets. Then, try game mode and calibrate the TV. It sounds like you are using Dynamic/Vivid.

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#3 Dabbagins
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Sharpness should be at 50. That is the equivalent if no enhancements on LG sets. Then, try game mode and calibrate the TV. It sounds like you are using Dynamic/Vivid.

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Well I have the option to use Dynamic/Vivid..I've seen it along with game mode but I use standard. But I'll try what you said, put sharpness back up to 50 and try game mode. How does one calibrate the tv?

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#4 GTR12
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Well I have the option to use Dynamic/Vivid..I've seen it along with game mode but I use standard. But I'll try what you said, put sharpness back up to 50 and try game mode. How does one calibrate the tv?

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Buy a calibration DVD.

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#5 WiiRocks66
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[QUOTE="Dabbagins"] Well I have the option to use Dynamic/Vivid..I've seen it along with game mode but I use standard. But I'll try what you said, put sharpness back up to 50 and try game mode. How does one calibrate the tv?

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Buy a calibration DVD.

Or, if you have a Pixar DVD, use the THX Calibrator. Finding Nemo and Star Wars all have it. It won't get you a picture as good as a calibration DVD, but it will suffice. My settings for my LG(32LH20) are: Picture Mode: Expert 1 or 2 Aspect Ratio: Just Scan Backlight: 30 Contrast:90 Brightness:52 H and V Sharpness:50 Color: 60 Tint:0 EXPERT CONTROL: Dynamic Contrast: Off Noise Reduction: Off Gamma: High Black Level: Low Real Cinema: On(greyed out) Color Standard: HD(greyed out) Color Gamut: Wide Edge Enhancer: Off White Balance: Medium Method: 10 Point IRE That gives you an idea of what they should be with no enhancements. Also, look up your TV on CNET and they probably have the calibrated picture settings.

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#6 Dabbagins
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My tv's model is 47LH40 and I searched for the settings in the forums at cnet.com but couldn't find that model. I still got help with other things there like the blu ray settings for the ps3 so I thank you for that. Could someone link me to a good calibration dvd so I can buy one.

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#7 WiiRocks66
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According to LG, the only thing that seperates thenLH40 and LH50 series is the internet capabilities. So here are settings for you:

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-19410_102-0.html?threadID=351162&tag=mncol;txt

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#8 rastan
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Game mode is not a picture calibration setting, rather a mode that defeats the 120 Hz processing as well as other TV processing so that there is minimal lag for games. Your "motion blur" seems to be the inherent motion lag found in LCD tv's. Some people notice it more and some sets have less than others. Very little you can do about this other than replacing tv as it is a native spec of that particular LCD panel.
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#9 Dabbagins
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Game mode is not a picture calibration setting, rather a mode that defeats the 120 Hz processing as well as other TV processing so that there is minimal lag for games. Your "motion blur" seems to be the inherent motion lag found in LCD tv's. Some people notice it more and some sets have less than others. Very little you can do about this other than replacing tv as it is a native spec of that particular LCD panel.rastan
I believe what you said might be the sad truth behind my tv. As far as calibration goes I got geek squad coming tomorrow to calibrate my tv.

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#10 GTR12
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[QUOTE="rastan"]Game mode is not a picture calibration setting, rather a mode that defeats the 120 Hz processing as well as other TV processing so that there is minimal lag for games. Your "motion blur" seems to be the inherent motion lag found in LCD tv's. Some people notice it more and some sets have less than others. Very little you can do about this other than replacing tv as it is a native spec of that particular LCD panel.Dabbagins

I believe what you said might be the sad truth behind my tv. As far as calibration goes I got geek squad coming tomorrow to calibrate my tv.

Waste of money when you could have done it yourself

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#11 rastan
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Unfortunately, yes. Cancel an save your money.
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[QUOTE="rastan"]Game mode is not a picture calibration setting, rather a mode that defeats the 120 Hz processing as well as other TV processing so that there is minimal lag for games. Your "motion blur" seems to be the inherent motion lag found in LCD tv's. Some people notice it more and some sets have less than others. Very little you can do about this other than replacing tv as it is a native spec of that particular LCD panel.Dabbagins

I believe what you said might be the sad truth behind my tv. As far as calibration goes I got geek squad coming tomorrow to calibrate my tv.

do not have geeksquad calibrate your set dude, its a waste.if you want to pay to get your set calibrated get it done by home theater specialist, they'll do a much better job than bestbuy. anyways are you sure the "blur" isn't caused by the motion interpolation?
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#13 WiiRocks66
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[QUOTE="Dabbagins"]

[QUOTE="rastan"]Game mode is not a picture calibration setting, rather a mode that defeats the 120 Hz processing as well as other TV processing so that there is minimal lag for games. Your "motion blur" seems to be the inherent motion lag found in LCD tv's. Some people notice it more and some sets have less than others. Very little you can do about this other than replacing tv as it is a native spec of that particular LCD panel.bizzy420

I believe what you said might be the sad truth behind my tv. As far as calibration goes I got geek squad coming tomorrow to calibrate my tv.

do not have geeksquad calibrate your set dude, its a waste.if you want to pay to get your set calibrated get it done by home theater specialist, they'll do a much better job than bestbuy. anyways are you sure the "blur" isn't caused by the motion interpolation?

It might be. I was at BB ~2 weeks ago, and saw a Samsung 120hz with it off on one half and on on the other half. The 120hz side blurred more.
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#14 Dabbagins
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We turned off 120hz and now the blur or whatever it was doesn't show up no more.

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#15 Alter_Echo
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For what someone is going to charge for a service call to calibrate your set, you could go buy a used Spyder and do it yourself PLUS have the tool for future use.