Is Vista the Spawn of Satan?

I know from experience that the comments I have seen have not been 'blown out of proportion'. But I see how it could easily seem that way.

We are lead to believe that Microsoft can't screw up. But the O/S department is basically a monopoly right now. Most people are afraid of Linux due to the fact that you actually need to 'try' when it comes to getting things to run correctly.

Microsoft could make Windows XP 2 and people would buy it. Even if it included nothing more than an updated version of the 'bliss' wallpaper.

Vista is ANYTHING but a gaming O/S. Which annoys many people, especially on digg, because of the fact that Microsoft has pushed the concept of an O/S for gamers for so long. Vista has proven to gamers that XP is the real gaming O/S.

I still have my copy of Ultimate just sitting right next to my monitor. It is trash solely on how much of it is useless. They packed it full of stuff that no one needs, and all it does is weaken the experience. Hell, I own a validated/pirated copy of it, so I do nothing but feel bad for anyone who was stupid enough to pay for the thing.

And don't tell me it's my copy of windows that is screwy. It's 100% fine. It's the O/S that is broken ;) 

If that's all your hearing about Vista, you're looking in the wrong places :| Vista is better than XP in almost every possible way.... I haven't had any issues with it at all. Most of the people who talk about how *bad* it is are simply refering to their beta experience or haven't even tried it at all. SuperBeast

Wrong 

you should hold out for dx10 games to come out, and windows Live to be fully operational, which is when vista will truly shine.

 plus isn't it widely known to give Microsoft a couple months (or much more) with every new OS, until they patch the hell out of it?

BTW its been a while that its been uncovered that they have yet another new OS planned for 2009-2010 

i used vista for a few months, but lost it due to a bad harddrive, and decided to stick with XP. i had very few problems with vista, at first it was a little hard to get familiar with everything, and it was a pain in the ass getting video drivers for my 8800GTS, and a few of my WoW addons didnt work for some unknown reason. other than that i had no problems with vista, i just decided to stick with XP because its what i know best, and there are no dx10 games out yet.

I've used Vista and it falls under the "Just another another OS" category. There isn't much that sets it apart from XP. Only buy Vista when DX10 starts becoming a bit more mainstream...or if you really need a semi-translucent desktop theme. As for stability issues, my experience with it was as smooth as any other windows OS...but since I don't actually own a copy for myself I haven't been able to put it through its paces.Oolark

Yeah and the first thing I do is turn that "semi-translucent desktop" crap off.  Here is my Vista Desktop on dual boot, that I never use, ever -

I guess I'll go with XP for now since I'm used to it and its more stable. Once more DX10 games come out, I'm sure it'll be a painless upgrade to Vista at that point.

Will BioShock be a DX10 game?

Nothing is actually a DX10 game. To my understanding all of them support DX9, but I could be wrong. I believe we won't see strictly DX10 games for awhile.

Unless you REALLY REALLY REALLY need to play Halo 2.  It's going to be GOTY /cough

This is so confusing. lol I dont know what to doooooooo. :( I hate getting mixed feedback. :p

If that's all your hearing about Vista, you're looking in the wrong places :| Vista is better than XP in almost every possible way.... I haven't had any issues with it at all. Most of the people who talk about how *bad* it is are simply refering to their beta experience or haven't even tried it at all. SuperBeast

Vista runs worse than XP in every possible way when it comes to gaming. Maybe you have an ATI card, as their drivers have been at least close to giving XP like gaming performance, but anyone who has an nvidia card gets horrid performance compared to xp. Even with an ATI card the performance on vista still doesn't stack up to xp's. The OS is just a major system hog and really needs a SP before it can even be considered better than xp performance wise.  

Cancel or Allow?

I agree that Vista needs time, everything does. It's just that people are alot less excited for a Vista fix than they were for an XP fix.

Thats good to know since I am going with Nvidia.TheUberKnight

You dug your own grave. 

[QUOTE="TheUberKnight"]Thats good to know since I am going with Nvidia.Rockin_MixMasta

You dug your own grave.

I think he's talking about my post, since I said Nvidia cards perform horribly with vista.  

[QUOTE="TheUberKnight"]Thats good to know since I am going with Nvidia.Rockin_MixMasta

You dug your own grave. 

lol whats wrong with nvidia? I have them now and I've never had any problems.

ATI = Monkey

nVidia = Stuff Monkey throws 

Ive held back from saying anything about the system because I didn't try it yet. Well today I went to bestbuy to pickup a movie or two and strolled into the PC department. Most of the PCs were running Vista. I went to first computer and the mouse didn't work.. "not surprised" then to the second, it worked. Played around with if for a little bit and noticed everything was slow to react. I looked at the spec sheet. 2.4 Core 2, 2GB Ram and so on. 2GB? It sure didn't act like it. So I brought up the task list, just the regular system stuff running. Vista in general as is suppose to be is "wow, cool, I must have it because its such a better upgrade" to bad its not. I went to a few other computer to see if it was just that one, nope same thing. So I have no interest in Vista.

My opinion of Vista is that it's a hit or miss experence depending on the computer and software you run. Vista is improved over XP,  but people will have problems with certain (older in particular) hardware. Some software runs fine, some software will have issues. Because of this you will have some people who hate it because they need to replace half the hardware in their computer, half their software woun't run, or their apps crash. On the other hand for some people it may run great. One thing is for sure. Although Vista has a nicer UI and somewhat better security as a whole games will run slower. This was all true about Windows 98/ME (and even 2000) vs Windows XP when it came out.dgsinc

From all i've read that does seem to be the case. The people complaining are the ones that installed Vista with their existing hardware.

About to get new computer with Vista premium 32bit with all the lastest hardware and will be assembled and installed for me by pros so hoping I won't regret Vista.

vista requires too much .....evrything for itself.....doesn't leave a slice of ram...or anything else....for gaming....i choose XP....and i won't change it....

Some advice needed, if I'm to get a gaming rig in the next few months, do I stick with XP for now since its more stable? I could always just upgrade later on. Or, should I just go out and get a Vista machine? I figure by then, it will be more stable.TheUberKnight

To be honest, if you can afford it, get a copy of both. 

For me, Vista run's smoothly. Most games are fine, but I was silly to think that 1GB of RAM would lete me play SupCom 81x81 smoothly at the end of the match.

Having An ATi card, The drivers are fine, no compatibility issues. I just can't wait to see my friend get a brand new Nvidia card, and phail because of drivers.  

I still have my copy of Ultimate just sitting right next to my monitor. It is trash solely on how much of it is useless. They packed it full of stuff that no one needs, and all it does is weaken the experience. Hell, I own a validated/pirated copy of it, so I do nothing but feel bad for anyone who was stupid enough to pay for the thing.

And don't tell me it's my copy of windows that is screwy. It's 100% fine. It's the O/S that is broken ;) 

Rockin_MixMasta

Thats not allowed here lol I don't care but you might.. 

I have Vista on my laptop, but do I really need it? No, not really...... but it's kinda nice to have the experience.

I'd say, stick with XP for now, Vista is no use until later in a year or two or even longer, who knows? 

Vista's problems are way over-blown.

I'm running Vista Ultimate 64-bit and have not had a single problem!!! Everything I've loaded has run fine, probably installed around 20 games now, they've all worked (even an oldie like System Shock 2).

My 3DMark scores with Vista are a little less than with XP, but I remember the exact same thing when moving from Windows 98 to XP.

If you do encounter issues with Vista, there are some work arounds --- run in administrator mode, set your processor affinity if you're using a multi-core processor, etc.

It's not that bad at all!!!

However, laptops and Vista at this point are a different story, some issues there , if you aren't using a laptop though, then you don't need to worry about it ;) 

I don't know bro, you might have something wrong with your audio.

I haven't noticed any issues, it sounds great! They improved the audio subsystem.

"Better audio fidelity? Check. Moving primarily to User Mode actually resulted in an increase in performance over the existing Kernel Mode audio stack, because there were far fewer transitions between User Mode applications and processes and Kernel Mode drivers. Microsoft spent some of that gained performance to improve audio fidelity, primarily by transitioning the audio stack from being based on 16-bit integer operations to 32-bit floating point." - extremetech.com