Is Windows 8 any good?

I never participated in any of the betas for it because I really didn't have a lot of interest... But it's launch is right around the corner and my school is already selling drastically reduced price copies of professional... So just curious... Is it worth getting? Silly question, but will Steam still work correctly with it... I remember a big fuss a few months back about Gabe complaining about Windows 8 cracking down on 3rd parties and Steam being ruined by it or something, don't really remember...

But thanks...

Its a waste of money and effort if you already have Windows 7. 04dcarraher

Even if I can get it for like $25?

Windows 8 is better than Windows 7. Theres no reason to simply skip it.

Steam works fine with Widows 8; currently using both at the moment.

Windows 8 is better than Windows 7. Theres no reason to simply skip it.

Steam works fine with Widows 8; currently using both at the moment.

XaosII

Ya so long as you can get used to the metro page instead of a start menu everything works fine. No reason to skip as it runs lighter resulting in generally better gaming performance and quicker boot times.

i am using it
it's okay
a lot of random changes for no reason
e.g no startup folder it's in the appdata foler now %Appdata%

can't boot into safe mode w/o a disc
shift f8 does not work or f8

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.


things i like:
tpm module password is synced to the cloud, great for laptops
skydrive integration
user profiles synched, email, and everything, very nice.
weather on metro is useful
user account picture synched

sounds are way way better


i love the cloud synchingness of windows 8 so I will use it.

i am using the RTM version

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.acanofcoke

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.
JigglyWiggly_

Its user interface is a bit of a trainwreck. Unless you have a touchscreen, I don't see any reason you would upgrade from 7.

[QUOTE="acanofcoke"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.kraken2109

I think my reaction is the exact same as everyone else -that UAC thing sounds bad. That's one of the first things I disable after a fresh installation of Windows.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.
Lox_Cropek

whats UAC? Explain to me like im that guy who doesnt know jack about OS'sRatchet_Fan8

whats UAC? Explain to me like im that guy who doesnt know jack about OS'sRatchet_Fan8

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

(Which is very easily done in Windows 7, but apparently not in Windows 8?)

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Windows 8 is better than Windows 7. Theres no reason to simply skip it.

Steam works fine with Widows 8; currently using both at the moment.

Obiwan_1O

Ya so long as you can get used to the metro page instead of a start menu everything works fine. No reason to skip as it runs lighter resulting in generally better gaming performance and quicker boot times.

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]whats UAC? Explain to me like im that guy who doesnt know jack about OS'sAmster_G

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

(Which is very easily done in Windows 7, but apparently not in Windows 8?)

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

Windows 8 is better than Windows 7. Theres no reason to simply skip it.

Steam works fine with Widows 8; currently using both at the moment.

Obiwan_1O

Ya so long as you can get used to the metro page instead of a start menu everything works fine. No reason to skip as it runs lighter resulting in generally better gaming performance and quicker boot times.

[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]whats UAC? Explain to me like im that guy who doesnt know jack about OS'sLox_Cropek

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

(Which is very easily done in Windows 7, but apparently not in Windows 8?)

You can read here

http://www.eightforums.com/system-security/2434-disable-uac-completely.html#post122105

Windows 8 does come with powershell by default, that's pretty awesome. I can finally use CMD properly now since I always end up writing the lunix equivelent.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

(Which is very easily done in Windows 7, but apparently not in Windows 8?)

JigglyWiggly_

Also, it is true that the BSOD doesn't give you any information now?

Like this?

Also, it is true that the BSOD doesn't give you any information now?

Like this?

Lox_Cropek

I am not a fan of the way Windows 8 tries to speak allcolloquially to you though. It does it nonstop.

They are in love with the word "we".

I never participated in any of the betas for it because I really didn't have a lot of interest... But it's launch is right around the corner and my school is already selling drastically reduced price copies of professional... So just curious... Is it worth getting? Silly question, but will Steam still work correctly with it... I remember a big fuss a few months back about Gabe complaining about Windows 8 cracking down on 3rd parties and Steam being ruined by it or something, don't really remember...

But thanks...

C2N2

As much hate it gets, it has faster boot/shutdown times, better memory management and better process scheduling. So yeah, its better

So, now my question is, how does it run programs? I mean, I can only assume that every singular program in existance, the ones you use daily, can be installed just the same way? Have there been issues with certain applications at all?

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]whats UAC? Explain to me like im that guy who doesnt know jack about OS'sAmster_G

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

(Which is very easily done in Windows 7, but apparently not in Windows 8?)

Every operating system has some kind of UAC, linux, unix/bsd, and osx. It makes complete sense to have that and if you dont agree then you really dont know about operating systems.

As much hate it gets, it has faster boot/shutdown times, better memory management and better process scheduling. So yeah, its better

way2funny

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

As much hate it gets, it has faster boot/shutdown times, better memory management and better process scheduling. So yeah, its better

04dcarraher

How is it better? Because technically, it is better. With the new UI, if you dont like it, then thats your opinion and thats fine. However, technically it is better and you can't really deny that

[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]whats UAC? Explain to me like im that guy who doesnt know jack about OS'sway2funny

Kill it. Kill it with fire.

(Which is very easily done in Windows 7, but apparently not in Windows 8?)

Every operating system has some kind of UAC, linux, unix/bsd, and osx. It makes complete sense to have that and if you dont agree then you really dont know about operating systems.

Every operating system has some kind of UAC, linux, unix/bsd, and osx. It makes complete sense to have that and if you dont agree then you really dont know about operating systems.

way2funny

??? I was just saying how annoying it is.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="way2funny"]

As much hate it gets, it has faster boot/shutdown times, better memory management and better process scheduling. So yeah, its better

way2funny

How is it better? Because technically, it is better. With the new UI, if you dont like it, then thats your opinion and thats fine. However, technically it is better and you can't really deny that

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] How is it better when you have to fight with it to do simple tasks...... And all those little tweaks as is stated isnt worth the hassle and most people could care less with saving a few seconds on boot times, saving a few hundred meg on memory usagezaku101

How is it better? Because technically, it is better. With the new UI, if you dont like it, then thats your opinion and thats fine. However, technically it is better and you can't really deny that

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

I wasnt talking about viruses in terms of UAC and UAC isnt for protection of viruses. It does tell you why you got a bsod, it gives you the error, and you can look into a log for more details. I'm not advocating windows 8 but all the windows 8 hate is just rediculous.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

How is it better? Because technically, it is better. With the new UI, if you dont like it, then thats your opinion and thats fine. However, technically it is better and you can't really deny that

way2funny

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

I wasnt talking about viruses in terms of UAC and UAC isnt for protection of viruses. It does tell you why you got a bsod, it gives you the error, and you can look into a log for more details. I'm not advocating windows 8 but all the windows 8 hate is just rediculous.

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

04dcarraher

I wasnt talking about viruses in terms of UAC and UAC isnt for protection of viruses. It does tell you why you got a bsod, it gives you the error, and you can look into a log for more details. I'm not advocating windows 8 but all the windows 8 hate is just rediculous.

I like it.

It boots very fast and I've become very comfortable with the new UI.

I know how to use "run as admin" so I never turned off UAC to begin with.

Compatability problems have been minimal and I love the new search function.

Ok, technically it is better performance wise, BUT only marginally compared to W7, and what you gain compared to W7 doesnt make it worth it;

UAC can go jump off a bridge;

and i personally hate the UI, its my opinion but i simply hate it. If i wanted something like that id get a damn tablet and not a desktop;

Need a CD to boot up safe mode;

BSOD is useless;

I will say that to many people hate it for no reason, but there are plenty of reasons TO hate it. Its more of a hassle than W7 ever was and there is no real need for it to even be around right now.

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

zaku101

I would say UAC did help in the beginning as people first saw it and took an extra second to make sure it was something they truly wanted on their computer. However, over time, people saw that it popped up all the time and it was more of a reflex to just hit "continue" each time. I'd say over the long-term, UAC isn't as useful as the developers originally intended. Obviously, this is only logical reasoning and I have no statistics to back up these claims.

That said. I think MS is trying to be a little more like Apple and try to make PCs "cool" and more "user-friendly" while taking the focus off what has made Windows overall successful over the years: business and gaming.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

Cwagmire21

I would say UAC did help in the beginning as people first saw it and took an extra second to make sure it was something they truly wanted on their computer. However, over time, people saw that it popped up all the time and it was more of a reflex to just hit "continue" each time. I'd say over the long-term, UAC isn't as useful as the developers originally intended. Obviously, this is only logical reasoning and I have no statistics to back up these claims.

That said. I think MS is trying to be a little more like Apple and try to make PCs "cool" and more "user-friendly" while taking the focus off what has made Windows overall successful over the years: business and gaming.

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

04dcarraher

I wasnt talking about viruses in terms of UAC and UAC isnt for protection of viruses. It does tell you why you got a bsod, it gives you the error, and you can look into a log for more details. I'm not advocating windows 8 but all the windows 8 hate is just rediculous.

I'm not accepting it, I'm not loving it, I'm not hating it. I have an open mind. I never liked how the gui changed from 2000 to xp, and vista to 7 but I ended up getting use to it and now I'm not bothered by it. I'm more interested in the technical choices they made then the aesthetic ones because aesthetics generally can be modified.

all i care about is performance and if its not drastically faster then win7 like 10% or more then i won't bother switching.

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Technically it's a worthless piece of software that can't even tell you why youre getting a BSOD, no start menu, needs a bloody CD to boot into safe mode and you can't disable UAC. Yeah it also takes two desktops steps to find and open a simple program. If you ask me it's going to fail harder than vista. Also stating that UAC is a good thing or needed is just stupid. Ive removed viruses from over 30+ computers, guess what they all had UAC enabled. Other than annoying messages it isnt going to protect you in any way. It's basically nothing more than a gimmick. Performance wise there's like a 2%+ and - difference between the two.

04dcarraher

I wasnt talking about viruses in terms of UAC and UAC isnt for protection of viruses. It does tell you why you got a bsod, it gives you the error, and you can look into a log for more details. I'm not advocating windows 8 but all the windows 8 hate is just rediculous.

And its UI is awful. I miss being able to pick my UI with linux.

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[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

UAC is mandatory. If you disable it in msconfig, it's still there, you still have to right click as administrator to run some programs, and to copy files to C:\ it will prompt you.
There is a registry way to disable it, except all metro programs will cease to function.
kraken2109

What a trainwreck of an OS

That alone is enough to make me never use this crapware.