Its pointless to upgrade to a Q6600 if you have a Core 2 Duo

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#1 PSTriple4life
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Intel C2D will run games like Crysis and UT3 fine.

By the time Quad cores become useful for games, there will be a better one called Intel Penryn (12MB Cache), which is much better than a q6600

The only reason people want a q6600 so bad is because of the hype.

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#2 Shegevara
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lol.. how many games are quad-core only except alan wake which comes in 2008? Not only that C2D is enough. E6600 should be enough for MAX. Now think.
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#3 kodex1717
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I'm going to get a Phenom if I get anything, I like that I won't need a new mobo. That probably won't happen, though. Besides, the only game that I want that would take advantage of it is Supreme Commander.
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#4 RTSFTW
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I couldn't agree with you more.
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#5 r3351925
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there is only 1 reason, if u love supreme commander get the q6600.
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#6 mastershake575
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yes its pointless wait god im so tired of people going around buying Q6600 its like oh boy i get to play the 1-2 quad core otmized games coming out for the rest of the rear and some of next year just wait till you really NEED a quad core then buy one because you will be able to get a cheaper and better one that will murder the Q6600
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#7 Goldmatter
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im upgrading from 146 opteron - Q6600.... seemed a good idea a tthe moment... what do you guys think? i agree c2d - q6600 seems abit pointless... but to me there was a big diffrence between AM64 arcitecture - C2D so i felt im kind of jumping a upgrade going from single- quad
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#8 dayaccus007
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A good dualcore like E6750 is more than enough to max even Crysis with a strong video card, Q6600 is not a native quad core so is not worth it
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#9 domke13
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We cant be blind. We have to know that quad core will be faster than dual core in multithreaded games. Thats well known. But that doesnt mean you wont be able to max out those games on Dual core. There is one game that is out and uses four cores ( supreme commander), and one game to come, that you will probably need quad core to run it maxed (Alan Wake). But no worry fellows, Alan Wake is far away, at least 1 year, or even more, and by than there should be quads that will kill Q6600 hopefully for around same price.
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#10 X360PS3AMD05
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Yes if you Fold. P.S. I find it funny how everyone talks about "maxing crysis" when the game isn't even out.
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#11 harooon
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y r we sooo hyped bout Q6600.

Is there any game that bottlenecks E6600 ? No.... not even E4300 is bottlenecked in any game released till now. And when time comes, u can always overclock it .

Q6600 is sellin fast just becoz it has reduced its price by A gr88 deal. and obviously the HYPEE...

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#12 domke13
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Yeah. Ppls think that now whit quad core they will get best CPU in the wrold. Thats why soo much hype. I mean they will get best CPU in the world if they overclcok it. But when time for quad core come Q6600 will be forbidenn and smashed by new quads. not by Penryn yet, but next gen should really kick its ass.
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#13 perfection1000
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Yes if you Fold. P.S. I find it funny how everyone talks about "maxing crysis" when the game isn't even out. X360PS3AMD05
Yeah totally agree with that part. Trust me half of the topics that ask of computer parts have only one question. Will it max out Crysis? I mean its just a game and the hype is going beyond even the halo series. The only thing impresses the most about that game are the graphics. Everything else is pretty much the same like any other FPS out there. Now back to the topic. Yeah the only game that takes advantage of multiple cores is Supreme Commander so if you like that game go with the q6600 otherwise an E6600 or even an E6420 will do just fine for current games.
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#14 harooon
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ill stick with E6750 becoz its cheap . overclock to atleast 3.12 Ghz . that shud last a couple of years

and most probably skip the PENRYN generation.

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#15 IAM-CA
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The Million Dollar Question: Dual or Quad Core for the Same Price?

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3038&p=8

Interesting... Supreme Commander faster on E6850 than Q6600

Based on current software, Games - get E6850; Encoding - get Q6600... for the same $$$.
For future software, it largely depends how well the developers code for multi-threaded support.

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#16 LordEC911
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Intel C2D will run games like Crysis and UT3 fine.

By the time Quad cores become useful for games, there will be a better one called Intel Penryn (12MB Cache), which is much better than a q6600

The only reason people want a q6600 so bad is because of the hype.PSTriple4life

Yorkfield at stock isn't going to be "much better" then a Kentsfield at the same clock speed.
Why does everyone think Penryn is so awesome? All it really does is add more overclocking headroom for those that can use it.

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#17 brainiac24
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If you think about how long P4's lasted (mine lasted 4 years), core 2's wont be outdated for a looooong while. New, better tech stuff always comes out. But if you keep waiting and waiting, you'll never get anything tech-related. So if you find a good deal, grab it.
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#18 Wesker776
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Intel C2D will run games like Crysis and UT3 fine.

By the time Quad cores become useful for games, there will be a better one called Intel Penryn (12MB Cache), which is much better than a q6600

The only reason people want a q6600 so bad is because of the hype.

PSTriple4life

Penryn isn't a new architecture. It's a die shrink (which leads to more cache) and a clock speed bump from the original Core 2 (Woodcrest/Conroe/Merom and Clovertown/Kentsfield). Yes, Penryn will beat the Q6600, but that'll be mainly due to the ramped up clock speed (3.33GHz) and SSE4 (mainly for encoding).

A good dualcore like E6750 is more than enough to max even Crysis with a strong video card, Q6600 is not a native quad core so is not worth it dayaccus007

Oh gawd.

Please explain to me, in a logical way, why everyone should wait for a monolithic ("true" to your understanding) quad core?

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#19 dracolich666
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1680+ a quad and a duo would prob only have a average of 10-15% increase. The min frames might be 2x that tho. Also with 2 videocards a quad is recomended, IMHO.
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#20 imprezawrx500
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lol.. how many games are quad-core only except alan wake which comes in 2008? Not only that C2D is enough. E6600 should be enough for MAX. Now think.Shegevara

exactly can anyone even name a game that needs dual core?

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#21 imprezawrx500
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they multicore hype machine is geting to some people. the games have to be written to take adavantage of multicores unlike in the old days when the clock speed went you and you got instant increass. I don't know of any game that even needs a dual core cpu.
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#22 jjarvis321
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BOTTOM LINE IS. QUAD IS MORE POWERFUL. END OF DISCUSSION. IF U AINT GOT A QUAD. DONT DOWN IT.
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#23 yoyo462001
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BOTTOM LINE IS. QUAD IS MORE POWERFUL. END OF DISCUSSION. IF U AINT GOT A QUAD. DONT DOWN IT. jjarvis321
No it is not, just rememberits not truely 4 cores its two c2d put together. if an app cant take use of multithreading then you'll see no difference. if you upgrade from a C2D to quad core then your just plain stupid.
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#24 Macolele
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I already have C2D and I don't need the quad now. Some games support 4 core but you still play with 2 core well. I'm waiting until mid 2008. It's not only cheaper but also more new tech: DDR3, PCIE2.0, 45nm ho ho.

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#25 Wesker776
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[QUOTE="jjarvis321"]BOTTOM LINE IS. QUAD IS MORE POWERFUL. END OF DISCUSSION. IF U AINT GOT A QUAD. DONT DOWN IT. yoyo462001
No it is not, just rememberits not truely 4 cores its two c2d put together. if an app cant take use of multithreading then you'll see no difference. if you upgrade from a C2D to quad core then your just plain stupid.

The guy was right when he said that quad is more powerful. 4 processing cores has more power than two (of the same uarch), and you can't deny that.

However, you and a lot of people are right that software has to be written for multithreading. But the fact of the matter is that games are being written for multicore CPUs: Supreme Commander, Command and Conquer 3, Crysis, Alan Wake, the entire Source engine and the UE3, just to mention a few.

Finally, I agree with the topic creator's title. Upgrading from a Core 2 Duo to a Core 2 Quad is stupid. Me? Well, I'll get the Q6600 and then I'm going to use this E4400 to replace my office rig's Pentium D. :D

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#26 Staryoshi87
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I've got an E6600 atm, so I'm holding out until at least next year before I get a new mobo, ddr3, and a quad.
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#27 yoyo462001
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I've got an E6600 atm, so I'm holding out until at least next year before I get a new mobo, ddr3, and a quad.Staryoshi87
nice i heard DDR3 Ram is goign to be very expensive and has high latencies, so i hope they get it down soon, oh yea and PCI-E 2.0 should be really good.
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#28 Killfox
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Why is everyone so giddy on the new qaud cores coming out next year. If youve seen the performance on them theres only a 12% increase in performance or something like that. Its not that much of a difference like everyone is making them out to be. Thats why im getting a Q6600.
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#29 jjarvis321
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Yeah but you can say the quad is more of a long term thing. As in if you wanna get a pc thats going to last you A LONG TIME meaning you dont want to upgrade your proccessor for years, then the quad is reccomended.