I've got some LCD Qs

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a 22" LCD monitor over my 19" CRT. now I have some Qs:

1. Because it's a wide screen, wouldn't the picture (like in games and/or movies) be strached and like a body would look fat etc?
2. I see that the native aspect ratio of these monitors are 1680x1050, isn't that low? I mean my CRT is up to 1600x1200 and it's only 19" opposed to the 22", and I play usualy at 1280x1024, which is a different aspect ratio, means it'll be streched.
3. even if I'll be on 1680x1050 on desktop, wouldn't the screen refresh rate be like the min (60hz) cuz it's the highest res, and if I'll be on say 1280x1024 on desktop it would be like 70hz, which is low cuz I'm used to 85hz, and you could see the diff between a 60hz and a 85 hz.
Thanks!

1680x1050 isn't a low resolution. It's quite high actually, and not too far off from 1080p when you think about it. It's more or less a widescreen version of 1600x1200. 60HZ is fine for the refresh rate, as the human eye has issues detecting anything much over 60 FPS. I would tell you to avoid TN panels, but that's virtually impossible these days, especially with 22" panels. cmdrmonkey

What's a TN pannel?

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a 22" LCD monitor over my 19" CRT. now I have some Qs:

1. Because it's a wide screen, wouldn't the picture (like in games and/or movies) be strached and like a body would look fat etc? Games from the last couple of years support widescreen natively. For older games you might have to edit configuration files to display in widescreen or play the games stretched out.
2. I see that the native aspect ratio of these monitors are 1680x1050, isn't that low? I mean my CRT is up to 1600x1200 and it's only 19" opposed to the 22", and I play usualy at 1280x1024, which is a different aspect ratio, means it'll be streched. It's considered normal. 1600*1200 on just a 19 inc screen is really hard. It's better to play at the native resolution of the monitor. If you want to play in 1280*1024 like you used to, you should get a non-widescreen 19 inch LCD (but that would be somewhat silly). Also, you can force the aspect ration in your display drivers instead of playing fullscreen.
3. even if I'll be on 1680x1050 on desktop, wouldn't the screen refresh rate be like the min (60hz) cuz it's the highest res, and if I'll be on say 1280x1024 on desktop it would be like 70hz, which is low cuz I'm used to 85hz, and you could see the diff between a 60hz and a 85 hz. The refresh rate of a LCD monitor can't be compared to that of a CRT since the image doesn't actually refresh 60 times a second (it only changes when needed) so 60 hz is much more comfortable than 60 hz on a CRT.

Thanks!

f22rf

I would tell you to avoid TN panels, but that's virtually impossible these days, especially with 22" panels. cmdrmonkey

I agree.

[QUOTE="f22rf"]

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a 22" LCD monitor over my 19" CRT. now I have some Qs:

1. Because it's a wide screen, wouldn't the picture (like in games and/or movies) be strached and like a body would look fat etc? Games from the last couple of years support widescreen natively. For older games you might have to edit configuration files to display in widescreen or play the games stretched out.
What do you mean they support widescreen, that means you can change the res in those games to match a widescreen? if so what are these reses? anything that would be close to the 1280x1024 expereiance? so that also means, I would see more of a horizonal picture and less of a vertial right (more details that is- will see a chair from the right lets say in a game, but won't see the lamp on the ceiling as opposed to my non widescreen CRT)?. Thanks mate!
2. I see that the native aspect ratio of these monitors are 1680x1050, isn't that low? I mean my CRT is up to 1600x1200 and it's only 19" opposed to the 22", and I play usualy at 1280x1024, which is a different aspect ratio, means it'll be streched. It's considered normal. 1600*1200 on just a 19 inc screen is really hard. It's better to play at the native resolution of the monitor. If you want to play in 1280*1024 like you used to, you should get a non-widescreen 19 inch LCD (but that would be somewhat silly). Also, you can force the aspect ration in your display drivers instead of playing fullscreen.
3. even if I'll be on 1680x1050 on desktop, wouldn't the screen refresh rate be like the min (60hz) cuz it's the highest res, and if I'll be on say 1280x1024 on desktop it would be like 70hz, which is low cuz I'm used to 85hz, and you could see the diff between a 60hz and a 85 hz. The refresh rate of a LCD monitor can't be compared to that of a CRT since the image doesn't actually refresh 60 times a second (it only changes when needed) so 60 hz is much more comfortable than 60 hz on a CRT.

Thanks!

Gog

[QUOTE="Gog"][QUOTE="f22rf"]

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a 22" LCD monitor over my 19" CRT. now I have some Qs:

1. Because it's a wide screen, wouldn't the picture (like in games and/or movies) be strached and like a body would look fat etc? Games from the last couple of years support widescreen natively. For older games you might have to edit configuration files to display in widescreen or play the games stretched out.
What do you mean they support widescreen, that means you can change the res in those games to match a widescreen? if so what are these reses? anything that would be close to the 1280x1024 expereiance? so that also means, I would see more of a horizonal picture and less of a vertial right (more details that is- will see a chair from the right lets say in a game, but won't see the lamp on the ceiling as opposed to my non widescreen CRT)?. Thanks mate!

Most of the newer games offer a so called horizontal+ widescreen support, which means that, comparing to the nonwidescreen resolutions, you see the same size vericaly and more horizontaly. Unfortunately, there are some games that work in vertical- mode, thus cutting your picture from the top and the bottom without giving anything in return. And then there are the games which don't support widescreen leaving you with no choice but stretching the image (which looks rather awful if you asked me) or add the pillarboxes (the black barrs at the sides of your screen). Goto www.widescreengaming.com to check if your favorite games support widescreen properly.

The resolution you want to playat is 1680x1050. Any other will result in inferior picture quality. If it's not avaible, though, choose the highest one of those which don't result in poor performance.

f22rf

[QUOTE="f22rf"][QUOTE="Gog"][QUOTE="f22rf"]

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a 22" LCD monitor over my 19" CRT. now I have some Qs:

1. Because it's a wide screen, wouldn't the picture (like in games and/or movies) be strached and like a body would look fat etc? Games from the last couple of years support widescreen natively. For older games you might have to edit configuration files to display in widescreen or play the games stretched out.
What do you mean they support widescreen, that means you can change the res in those games to match a widescreen? if so what are these reses? anything that would be close to the 1280x1024 expereiance? so that also means, I would see more of a horizonal picture and less of a vertial right (more details that is- will see a chair from the right lets say in a game, but won't see the lamp on the ceiling as opposed to my non widescreen CRT)?. Thanks mate!

Most of the newer games offer a so called horizontal+ widescreen support, which means that, comparing to the nonwidescreen resolutions, you see the same size vericaly and more horizontaly. Unfortunately, there are some games that work in vertical- mode, thus cutting your picture from the top and the bottom without giving anything in return. And then there are the games which don't support widescreen leaving you with no choice but stretching the image (which looks rather awful if you asked me) or add the pillarboxes (the black barrs at the sides of your screen). Goto www.widescreengaming.com to check if your favorite games support widescreen properly.

The resolution you want to playat is 1680x1050. Any other will result in inferior picture quality. If it's not avaible, though, choose the highest one of those which don't result in poor performance.

Ptosio

[QUOTE="Ptosio"][QUOTE="f22rf"][QUOTE="Gog"][QUOTE="f22rf"]

Hey there. I'm thinking about getting a 22" LCD monitor over my 19" CRT. now I have some Qs:

1. Because it's a wide screen, wouldn't the picture (like in games and/or movies) be strached and like a body would look fat etc? Games from the last couple of years support widescreen natively. For older games you might have to edit configuration files to display in widescreen or play the games stretched out.
What do you mean they support widescreen, that means you can change the res in those games to match a widescreen? if so what are these reses? anything that would be close to the 1280x1024 expereiance? so that also means, I would see more of a horizonal picture and less of a vertial right (more details that is- will see a chair from the right lets say in a game, but won't see the lamp on the ceiling as opposed to my non widescreen CRT)?. Thanks mate!

Most of the newer games offer a so called horizontal+ widescreen support, which means that, comparing to the nonwidescreen resolutions, you see the same size vericaly and more horizontaly. Unfortunately, there are some games that work in vertical- mode, thus cutting your picture from the top and the bottom without giving anything in return. And then there are the games which don't support widescreen leaving you with no choice but stretching the image (which looks rather awful if you asked me) or add the pillarboxes (the black barrs at the sides of your screen). Goto www.widescreengaming.com to check if your favorite games support widescreen properly.

The resolution you want to playat is 1680x1050. Any other will result in inferior picture quality. If it's not avaible, though, choose the highest one of those which don't result in poor performance.

f22rf

A 22 inch (16:10) widescreen will always be wider than a 19 inch (4:3) screen. That's a mathematical certainty. We're talking about the actual view size, not the whole monitor with the edges and all.

Besides the physical size is irrelevant to how much of an image can be displayed.

From the pure mathematical point of view, your CRT vertical size is 11.4" and 22" measures 10.8 (that is, if I didn't mess up Pythagorean Theorem). Keep in mind, though, that visible size of CRT is significantly smaller than manfufacturer tells you it is.

That's not what I mean, though. I wasn't refering to the psychical dimensions of your monitor but rather your in-game field of view (as in that chair&lamp exaple you've provided us with) which might be either bigger or smaller on a widescreen monitor.

From the pure mathematical point of view, your CRT vertical size is 11.4" and 22" measures 10.8 (that is, if I didn't mess up Pythagorean Theorem). Keep in mind, though, that visible size of CRT is significantly smaller than manfufacturer tells you it is.

That's not what I mean, though. I wasn't refering to the psychical dimensions of your monitor but rather your in-game field of view (as in that chair&lamp exaple you've provided us with) which might be either bigger or smaller on a widescreen monitor.

Ptosio

So you say in a 22" my in game field of view may be smaller then my 19" right?

[QUOTE="Ptosio"]

From the pure mathematical point of view, your CRT vertical size is 11.4" and 22" measures 10.8 (that is, if I didn't mess up Pythagorean Theorem). Keep in mind, though, that visible size of CRT is significantly smaller than manfufacturer tells you it is.

That's not what I mean, though. I wasn't refering to the psychical dimensions of your monitor but rather your in-game field of view (as in that chair&lamp exaple you've provided us with) which might be either bigger or smaller on a widescreen monitor.

f22rf

So you say in a 22" my in game field of view may be smaller then my 19" right?

Damn that's what I wanted to know, if a CRT would be taller (the display overall size would be taller). So you gain on width but lose on height, damn! I didn't want that to happen!. Well thanks all!!! Gog, Ptosio, etcf22rf

In case your system can't run games at playable frame rates on resolutions higher than 1280x1024, you can always play in that resolution. But you will have to go and change an option in the graphics card control panel. If you have an Nvidia card, you will choose "Nvidia scaling". It will scale the image to fit your screen without distorting the aspect ratio, i.e. you will get two black bars on the sides. It's nothing serious for me, as playing games with a stretched image is torture.

You don't need all this stuff if your system can handle 1680x1050 for games, but always remember that there are old games that you can't change their resolution, like Starcraft.

Well before I get my new 22" then. Does WoW play in widescreen?deadlytongs

[QUOTE="deadlytongs"]Well before I get my new 22" then. Does WoW play in widescreen?Spybot_9

Cool thanks for telling me. :)