I've played STALKER for 3 hours. So far i'm bored and unimpressed.

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#1 Skeptomania
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I want to like this game. Really, I do. So far though it's not doing anything for me. It's ugly, buggy, bland, the combat is nothing special and overall just not fun. I'm seriously considering just putting it up on Ebay. :(
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#2 kmagika
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i have also been playing it for about 3 hours. but i think this is awesome. im just trying to complete the side quests and get as much junk as i can. i totally think you should play on for a bit more. im still in the cordon
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#3 monco59
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I bought it and only played for a combined 10 mins for the first week or so and thought it wasn't all that great. Yesterday, while I only played for about 5 mins, I had a great time and am sure to go back to it when I have some time to kill. I recommend you give it a little more time, maybe it will grow on you...
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#4 wurn
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I agree sell it, seems you made up your mind anyway
I want to like this game. Really, I do. So far though it's not doing anything for me. It's ugly, buggy, bland, the combat is nothing special and overall just not fun. I'm seriously considering just putting it up on Ebay. :(Skeptomania
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#5 Rattlesnake_8
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Sell it.. to me :) I havn't bought it yet and everything i've heard (except for your comment) is excellent.
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#6 pompita
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yes bro is a stupid f...ing game And i wait 2 years this game :(

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#7 Citan76
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Seems like a game some people love and some people just don't like at all. I love it very much personally. The AI is really great and the whole act of scavenging for weapons and food is great. The guns are great in the game too and the shooting is some really good precision shooting that will take skill and patience. For some the AI might be frustrating though because they aren't stupid for the most part and will stay in cover if they can and make you waste ammo. For me this just makes it even better.
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#8 thusaha
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I played it about 3-4 hours and I really enjoy the game.
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#9 Tadmod
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The game looks awful in the screenshots, well, at least not up to today's standards. and I've heard from a friend that the gameplay is pathetic to say the least.
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#10 MindlessTeef
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Stalker is NOT your run-of-the-mill type FPS! If you like Doom3, Call of Duty, etc... you might NOT like Stalker.

Stalker plays more like an RPG than a FPS and any serious RPG gamer has the patiance of a saint. I've put about 12 hr's into Stalker and I love it! Did not spent a second being bored!!! The game has it's flaws (even after the patch) and I'm having a hard time getting along with the weight limit... and the enemies has a bad habbit of flanking you:) It's still a great deal of fun though!!

 

 

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#11 wurn
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You go get him boy! Tell him like it is

Stalker is NOT your run-of-the-mill type FPS! If you like Doom3, Call of Duty, etc... you might NOT like Stalker.

Stalker plays more like an RPG than a FPS and any serious RPG gamer has the patiance of a saint. I've put about 12 hr's into Stalker and I love it! Did not spent a second being bored!!! The game has it's flaws (even after the patch) and I'm having a hard time getting along with the weight limit... and the enemies has a bad habbit of flanking you:) It's still a great deal of fun though!!

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#12 tenaka2
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I want to like this game. Really, I do. So far though it's not doing anything for me. It's ugly, buggy, bland, the combat is nothing special and overall just not fun. I'm seriously considering just putting it up on Ebay. :(Skeptomania
Sell it, you don't deserve to play it :)
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#13 Sleepyz
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Its a so so game. Could of done a much better job on the pda and organized the quests better and the none stop attacks even after you've done the quest in an area and the soldiers just keep coming and coming gets old fast. Don't have time to relax and loot before another wave is on you.

Buts its amusing to play from time to time. Had a quest to kill a guy and he was 2 others that didn't aggro so just lobbed a grenade in the center and boom quest done :P

Sure the game will get better later with patches and mods.

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#14 Terrorantula
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Stalker reminded me of Oblivion but far more buggy,ugly and the RPG felt tacked on at the last second. All you do is run to one guy he tells u what to do go to the dungeon then run back to him and then you go to the next guy lol. It's your RPG layout but the game doesn't really know what it wants to be :\ The FPS elements were ok but the half the time bullets dont even register and i could fire a granade at a guy and he wudn't even die because it didnt register and i'd end up dying cause he then came and killed me.
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#15 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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One of the main reasons I became interested  in the game in the first place, was because it was NOT like Call of Duty, Doom 3, Half Life 2, Quake 4 and FEAR (a railed-shooter where you only have 1 way to go). Freedom to go anywhere in FPS is almost unheard of and so kudos to the devs for making a game that goes in a different direction than the mainstream.
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#16 BounceDK
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Good thing I'm enjoying the game. Yeeeeep!
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#17 ardylicious
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Yawn another thread for someone who is probably playing it on 640x480. Shocking.

 

I am using vista put it to high textures everything maxed and arse kicking game. Not many bugs to complain about.

Maybe you should get it patched. 

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#18 nutcrackr
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It's a difficult one, some people will really appreciate the gameplay, the simulation type aspect and the dynamic type AI system. I'm one of those but I can see that people aren't having bug free experiences and some of the game could do with a bit more refinement but honestly it's one of the better shooters I've played in quite some time.
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Yawn another thread for someone who is probably playing it on 640x480. Shocking.

 

I am using vista put it to high textures everything maxed and arse kicking game. Not many bugs to complain about.

Maybe you should get it patched.

ardylicious

Who plays "anything" at 640x480?! :? That's a weird statement. Even if it's a sarcastic one, I can't for the life of me figure out what you're implying there. Oh well, maybe I'm just slow. :P

I just may check this game out soon myself. Sounds kinda cool.

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#20 Ontain
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It took me a little while to warm up to this game as well. i think it's because they give you just took little in the beginning. once you start knowing what to do and how things work it gets a little better. I'm starting to like it now though it's not as awesome or great as some ppl claim it is. at least not to me yet.
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#21 Velocitas8
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I'm about 7 or 8 hours in and I'm absolutely loving it. The combat really becomes enjoyable once you get the hang of how the weapons in this game handle. You can't run around emptying your clip, you need to use cover at long distances with the more innacurate weapons (which is what you have early in the game), close distance, take your time, and aim. Or early on you can opt to go crazy at point-blank range with sub-machine guns and your trusty sawed-off. Once you get the AKM/2, you'll start hitting your targets quite accurately from large distances..and it only gets better from there. With the more accurate assault weapons I'm sporting now, I can pull off headshots consistently from huge ranges.

The AI is spotty in some areas, but for the most part, it's quite advanced/challanging. You'll be spotted quite easily if you're in your enemies field of view, but they don't have godlike senses where it's impossible to sneak up on them and knife 'em. The only time where you're at a real disadvantage against enemies is early in the game, in the dark, with the poor starting weapons and no night vision..

The wheather effects are amazing, the visuals in general are also quite good (if unpolished,) and the atmosphere conveyed in this game is unlike any game I've ever played. The limited inventory mechanic is a nice addition, the huge range of weapons and ammunition is awesome, and, most of all, the freedom you're given in this game is refreshing after being force-fed these rail shooters year after year after year.

The game underdelivered on what was promised, but I'm pleasently surprised at how well the game turned out. I've said it a couple times now: this game, imo, is by far THE best singleplayer shooter in the past few years. I've only run in to one bug so far involving the completion of one of the Freedom missions, but it was fixed with a simple re-loading of the zone..this is without the new patch, which I plan on installing once I complete my first play-through.

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#22 deactivated-591754d3955ba
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It's ugly.Skeptomania

How exactly is it ugly?

buggySkeptomania

There's a patch out, you might wanna check it out. FYI, I have encountered zero bugs through my 5 hours of gameplay.

blandSkeptomania

In my opinion, the atmosphere is great. This is one of the games that make me jump outta my chair, and it happens pretty darn often when I play Stalker. Heh.

the combat is nothing specialSkeptomania

The combat is by far one of the best ones I have ever seen. It takes time to kill enemies, which is why the game's so rewarding. It's called "realism" ;]

I'm not trying to bash you or anything, just telling my opinion on the game.

Peace.

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#23 190586385885857957282413308806
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It sucks that the only way i've been able to play this game without it freezing is turning it down to ugly settings... no light and medium on everything else...

i guess i have to wait for another patch to come out and hope that it fixes my situation...but i really like the game when it does work

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#24 MadExponent
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After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played.
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#25 ardylicious
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After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. MadExponent
Says someone who gave GeoW a straight 10...................LOL. Oh and yes i was being sarcastic earlier. I guess if someone says it looks bland then surely they must be playing it on extremely low resolutions..........:O
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#26 Velocitas8
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After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland.MadExponent

El oh el...this coming from a Gears of War fan? STALKER certainly has more color and brighter conditions than GeOW does.

Seriously, how would you expect a conflict-conditioned nuclear wasteland to look?

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#27 Staryoshi87
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I want to like this game. Really, I do. So far though it's not doing anything for me. It's ugly, buggy, bland, the combat is nothing special and overall just not fun. I'm seriously considering just putting it up on Ebay. :(Skeptomania
I'm going to have to agree...but I'm going to stick with it, see if it gets any better....my new system wll be here this week, so i'll give it a shot on that, too....despite it being vista-unfriendly.
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#28 Cabal23
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It is totally on par with Oblivion. You either love it or hate it. I go back and forth, but then I did on Oblivion as well. I keep going back to it though because it has some seriously difficult battles. My only gripe is (mind you I have not patched yet) is that some missions don't seem to be able to be completed and some after you beat them pop back up again if you go near that area. Unusual. I also don't like how some checkpoints you spent a ton of ammo clearing out respawns after you leave the board and come back. Other than it rocks.

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After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. MadExponent

I think you are too stuck on your "Mad" rig to get this game. I guess it doesn't use your system to it's fullest. I am sure there is something flashier out there for you. By the way it take place in Russia after a nuclear disaster, it's not supposed to look like FarCry. The gameplay is realistic, not run and gun, and yes it is work, but that's why people are enjoying it. Sorry they didn't include a way for you to instantly transport yourself around. That is why it is brilliant. I have died countless time by being suprised by something roaming the wastelands. It feels like a true survival/horror game. One mans garbage is another mans treasure.

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#30 Velocitas8
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It is totally on par with Oblivion. You either love it or hate it. I go back and forth, but then I did on Oblivion as well. I keep going back to it though because it has some seriously difficult battles. My only gripe is (mind you I have not patched yet) is that some missions don't seem to be able to be completed and some after you beat them pop back up again if you go near that area. Unusual. I also don't like how some checkpoints you spent a ton of ammo clearing out respawns after you leave the board and come back. Other than it rocks.

Cabal23

Now that I think about it, I've had a problem with mission objectives not being completed correctly in my PDA log (I haven't patched either). I've never had a problem with missions themselves being completed though other than on one occasion, where I had to re-load the zone and it fixed. Even if the mission objective doesn't show as being registered correctly, I've always been able to go up to the person I turn it in to (after being sure I really completed it) and I've always been able to turn it in and get the reward(s), even when the little green light isn't lit up to confirm the objective's been completed.

I've never had any ammo problems personally, I even often find myself having too MUCH ammo..and I constantly have to drop many boxes of ammunition to reduce the weight I'm carrying. I'm also starting to find tons and tons of grenades (I have like 20ish in my inventory now) so I'm having to use those much more often than I have in the past.

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#31 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. ardylicious
Says someone who gave GeoW a straight 10...................LOL. Oh and yes i was being sarcastic earlier. I guess if someone says it looks bland then surely they must be playing it on extremely low resolutions..........:O

I am currently playing it @ 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF everything maxed ingame. One of the ugliest "next gen" games I have ever seen. So glad I have C&C3 cause this one is pretty bad.
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[QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. MadExponent
Says someone who gave GeoW a straight 10...................LOL. Oh and yes i was being sarcastic earlier. I guess if someone says it looks bland then surely they must be playing it on extremely low resolutions..........:O

I am currently playing it @ 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF everything maxed ingame. One of the ugliest "next gen" games I have ever seen. So glad I have C&C3 cause this one is pretty bad.

Stalker isn't a "next-gen" game from a technical-graphics aspect. It was supposed to be out several years ago. It is, however, like half life 2 in that what it lacks in today's bells and whistles, environments are rich and detailed and the game looks pretty sharp imo.
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#33 Envig
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Im more concerned on the content rather then the graphics.. I find it pretty boring
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#34 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. Cabal23

I think you are too stuck on your "Mad" rig to get this game. I guess it doesn't use your system to it's fullest. I am sure there is something flashier out there for you. By the way it take place in Russia after a nuclear disaster, it's not supposed to look like FarCry. The gameplay is realistic, not run and gun, and yes it is work, but that's why people are enjoying it. Sorry they didn't include a way for you to instantly transport yourself around. That is why it is brilliant. I have died countless time by being suprised by something roaming the wastelands. It feels like a true survival/horror game. One mans garbage is another mans treasure.

I have only 2 gripes with the game, but they are pretty annoying to me. The graphics are not good. I would say they are worse than HL2 and HL2 is an old game. For a game that took 6 years it should look amazing...it doesn't. Even with it being in a nuclear fallout zone and all it can still look really good...but it doesn't. I didn't like Oblivion for the same reason I don't like STALKER. It feels like work and it is too slow paced for my taste. Funny thing is that I am eagerly awaiting Bioshock which will be even more slow paced than this, but I am sure that it will hook me in with the whole survival horror feeling.
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#35 Velocitas8
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[QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. MadExponent
Says someone who gave GeoW a straight 10...................LOL. Oh and yes i was being sarcastic earlier. I guess if someone says it looks bland then surely they must be playing it on extremely low resolutions..........:O

I am currently playing it @ 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF everything maxed ingame. One of the ugliest "next gen" games I have ever seen. So glad I have C&C3 cause this one is pretty bad.

LOL.

 

1) 16xAA (as in 2x2 supersampling + 4x multisampling) isn't compatible at the driver-level beyond resolutions of 1280x1024.

2) Anti-aliasing isn't even compatible with STALKER at max settings (full dynamic lighting) even IF forced at the driver-level.

3) Those settings, if even possible, would be likely to bring even that rig to its knees.

 

Try again.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="ardylicious"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. Velocitas8

Says someone who gave GeoW a straight 10...................LOL. Oh and yes i was being sarcastic earlier. I guess if someone says it looks bland then surely they must be playing it on extremely low resolutions..........:O

I am currently playing it @ 1920x1080 16xAA 16xAF everything maxed ingame. One of the ugliest "next gen" games I have ever seen. So glad I have C&C3 cause this one is pretty bad.

LOL.

1) 16xAA (as in 2x2 supersampling + 4x multisampling) isn't compatible at the driver-level beyond resolutions of 1280x1024.

2) Anti-aliasing isn't even compatible with STALKER at max settings (full dynamic lighting) even IF forced at the driver-level.

3) Those settings, if even possible, would be likely to bring even that rig to its knees.

Try again.

When I get home from work I will post screenshots of it. 16xAA/16xAF is something I have to force in the drivers. It does not bring it to its knees either. With fraps on it runs @ 40-50fps. When I disable 16xAA and AF and use ingame settings it jumps back up into the 100's. I'm using the 100.41 Forcewares. So anyways. Ugly game. Period.
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#37 Velocitas8
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[QUOTE="Cabal23"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. MadExponent

I think you are too stuck on your "Mad" rig to get this game. I guess it doesn't use your system to it's fullest. I am sure there is something flashier out there for you. By the way it take place in Russia after a nuclear disaster, it's not supposed to look like FarCry. The gameplay is realistic, not run and gun, and yes it is work, but that's why people are enjoying it. Sorry they didn't include a way for you to instantly transport yourself around. That is why it is brilliant. I have died countless time by being suprised by something roaming the wastelands. It feels like a true survival/horror game. One mans garbage is another mans treasure.

I have only 2 gripes with the game, but they are pretty annoying to me. The graphics are not good. I would say they are worse than HL2 and HL2 is an old game. For a game that took 6 years it should look amazing...it doesn't. Even with it being in a nuclear fallout zone and all it can still look really good...but it doesn't. I didn't like Oblivion for the same reason I don't like STALKER. It feels like work and it is too slow paced for my taste. Funny thing is that I am eagerly awaiting Bioshock which will be even more slow paced than this, but I am sure that it will hook me in with the whole survival horror feeling.

Half-Life 2 doesn't touch this game visually. Lost Coast? MAYBE..but not HL2. The visuals aren't spectacular, but they aren't bad either. The lighting and shadowing in this game @ max, in particular, are excellent. Probably some of the best, maybe even the best lighting/shadowing to date. Maybe you're refering to the game's art style?

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#38 Velocitas8
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When I get home from work I will post screenshots of it. 16xAA/16xAF is something I have to force in the drivers. It does not bring it to its knees either. With fraps on it runs @ 40-50fps. When I disable 16xAA and AF and use ingame settings it jumps back up into the 100's. I'm using the 100.41 Forcewares. So anyways. Ugly game. Period.MadExponent

You do that.

Edit: Missed the SLI part, so it probably wouldn't bring it to its knees, but that doesn't changed the fact that it isn't even possible to force AA in this game with full dynamic lighting enabled (even with nHancer), and that 16xAA isn't possible at that resolution ;)

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#39 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="Cabal23"]

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]After seeing so many beautiful new games STALKER looks completely washed out and bland. The gameplay is not fun and feels more like work than anything I have ever played. Velocitas8

I think you are too stuck on your "Mad" rig to get this game. I guess it doesn't use your system to it's fullest. I am sure there is something flashier out there for you. By the way it take place in Russia after a nuclear disaster, it's not supposed to look like FarCry. The gameplay is realistic, not run and gun, and yes it is work, but that's why people are enjoying it. Sorry they didn't include a way for you to instantly transport yourself around. That is why it is brilliant. I have died countless time by being suprised by something roaming the wastelands. It feels like a true survival/horror game. One mans garbage is another mans treasure.

I have only 2 gripes with the game, but they are pretty annoying to me. The graphics are not good. I would say they are worse than HL2 and HL2 is an old game. For a game that took 6 years it should look amazing...it doesn't. Even with it being in a nuclear fallout zone and all it can still look really good...but it doesn't. I didn't like Oblivion for the same reason I don't like STALKER. It feels like work and it is too slow paced for my taste. Funny thing is that I am eagerly awaiting Bioshock which will be even more slow paced than this, but I am sure that it will hook me in with the whole survival horror feeling.

Half-Life 2 doesn't touch this game visually. Lost Coast? MAYBE..but not HL2. The visuals aren't spectacular, but they aren't bad either. The lighting and shadowing in this game @ max, in particular, are excellent. Probably some of the best, maybe even the best lighting/shadowing to date. Maybe you're refering to the game's art style?

I haven't been focusing on the lighting/shadowing. The game as a whole just looks bad to me. The vegetation is low res as hell and the grass looks absolutely horrible. They should have just left it out if it was gonna look that bad. Looks so fake and lifeless.
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#40 ardylicious
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]When I get home from work I will post screenshots of it. 16xAA/16xAF is something I have to force in the drivers. It does not bring it to its knees either. With fraps on it runs @ 40-50fps. When I disable 16xAA and AF and use ingame settings it jumps back up into the 100's. I'm using the 100.41 Forcewares. So anyways. Ugly game. Period.Velocitas8

You do that.

I wait with excitement. Wooohooo ............
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#41 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]When I get home from work I will post screenshots of it. 16xAA/16xAF is something I have to force in the drivers. It does not bring it to its knees either. With fraps on it runs @ 40-50fps. When I disable 16xAA and AF and use ingame settings it jumps back up into the 100's. I'm using the 100.41 Forcewares. So anyways. Ugly game. Period.ardylicious

You do that.

I wait with excitement. Wooohooo ............

Exactly. No one could possibly be excited about seeing screenshots of THIS game running at absolute MAXED settings. It just does not look good and no one cares.
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I laugh at all the people who think graphics make this game bad. The games environments look dull, bland, and aren't colorful. You know why? It's called atmosphere. I don't wanna have flashy palm-trees in a game that's set in a nuclear wasteland. I want to see garbage that actually looks like garbage, and that's what I get. The weapons don't handle like you normal FPS weapons. You know why? This is not your normal FPS, it's a tactical shooter with some RPG elements in it. Oh, and the weapons actually have realistics ballistics, which means if you've ever fired an AK in real-life, you'll now what to do in this game, too. The game isn't run n' gun, it actually feels rewarding if you pop a guy in the head after a lenghty shootout. I love this game, it's a rich and atmospheric experience. I didn't bother to spellcheck this post.
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#43 ShotGunBunny
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I think Stalker is pretty nice, although I had expected a lot more in terms of freedom, you're still bound to the main story, and the side quests are pretty bland, and the world isn't much to explore just for the heck of it.

But still, the firefights are pretty nice, although I'm not really driven to continue as of now (I'm currently in Dark Valley). I'm hoping the story will turn out to be worth it.

IMO, they should simply have made a lot larger and with more freedom.
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#44 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="Parrotman"]I laugh at all the people who think graphics make this game bad. The games environments look dull, bland, and aren't colorful. You know why? It's called atmosphere. I don't wanna have flashy palm-trees in a game that's set in a nuclear wasteland. I want to see garbage that actually looks like garbage, and that's what I get. The weapons don't handle like you normal FPS weapons. You know why? This is not your normal FPS, it's a tactical shooter with some RPG elements in it. Oh, and the weapons actually have realistics ballistics, which means if you've ever fired an AK in real-life, you'll now what to do in this game, too. The game isn't run n' gun, it actually feels rewarding if you pop a guy in the head after a lenghty shootout. I love this game, it's a rich and atmospheric experience. I didn't bother to spellcheck this post.

I'm not so mad that the graphics are not good as I am about the performance hit the game takes when you attempt to make it look better. The graphical output does not justify the hit in performance.
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#45 Velocitas8
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Exactly. No one could possibly be excited about seeing screenshots of THIS game running at absolute MAXED settings. It just does not look good and no one cares.MadExponent

The game is far from looking bad. The atmosphere in the game is nice, the technical side when it comes to environment scale and object/landscape lighting/shadows is probably some of the best I've ever seen, and textures are nice for the most part. The day/night cycles are very impressive, as are the wheather effects. Have you sat through a lightning storm yet? Have you even spent time playing the game beyond the first zone instead of just looking at it and b!tching?

Oh, and before you embarrass yourself: STALKER uses deferred rendering, and you CANNOT enable FSAA no matter WHAT card you have, even at the driver level, unless you're running the game in DX8 mode with static lighting. Whether your framerate goes down when you force it in your driver panel is irrelevant. Aliasing WILL persist.

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#46 MadExponent
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I think Stalker is pretty nice, although I had expected a lot more in terms of freedom, you're still bound to the main story, and the side quests are pretty bland, and the world isn't much to explore just for the heck of it.

But still, the firefights are pretty nice, although I'm not really driven to continue as of now (I'm currently in Dark Valley). I'm hoping the story will turn out to be worth it.

IMO, they should simply have made a lot larger and with more freedom.
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I think that we are going to be severely spoiled when Crysis comes out. It is supposed to give you insane amounts of freedom. The graphics will be awesome and gameplay is on lock.
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#47 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]Exactly. No one could possibly be excited about seeing screenshots of THIS game running at absolute MAXED settings. It just does not look good and no one cares.Velocitas8

The game is far from looking bad. The atmosphere in the game is nice, the technical side when it comes to environment scale and object/landscape lighting/shadows is probably some of the best I've ever seen, and textures are nice for the most part. The day/night cycles are very impressive, as are the wheather effects. Have you sat through a lightning storm yet? Have you even spent time playing the game beyond the first zone instead of just looking at it and b!tching?

Oh, and before you embarrass yourself: STALKER uses deferred rendering, and you CANNOT enable FSAA no matter WHAT card you have, even at the driver level, unless you're running the game in DX8 mode with static lighting. Whether your framerate goes down when you force it in your driver panel is irrelevant. Aliasing WILL persist.

Textures are nice in some areas. And you are right I have not played enough of the game to see all the stuff you are talking about, but you know what they say...first impressions are the best. And my first impression of this game is the crappy graphics. As far as the antialiasing issue. I have it setup in the drivers to be @ 16xAA and AF. If the game doesn't support it then that is just fine. I won't lose sleep over it. Game still doesn't have nice enough graphics to justify the crappy performance. I was REALLY hoping I would like this game and I was in EB waiting on the delivery from UPS on the day it came out. I am just not impressed by what I have seen so far. I have been a little too busy lately with work that I just could not spend more time with the game.
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#48 MadExponent
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BTW as far as the Gears of War thing goes....me and my younger brother share this account. He is more of a console guy and he is the one that rated Gears. He hardly even plays PC games. The system in my sig is my computer that I recently built.
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#49 Velocitas8
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Textures are nice in some areas. And you are right I have not played enough of the game to see all the stuff you are talking about, but you know what they say...first impressions are the best. And my first impression of this game is the crappy graphics. As far as the antialiasing issue. I have it setup in the drivers to be @ 16xAA and AF. If the game doesn't support it then that is just fine. I won't lose sleep over it. Game still doesn't have nice enough graphics to justify the crappy performance. I was REALLY hoping I would like this game and I was in EB waiting on the delivery from UPS on the day it came out. I am just not impressed by what I have seen so far. I have been a little too busy lately with work that I just could not spend more time with the game.MadExponent

Disable AA if it is dropping your framerate, it has no impact on the game's visuals (anisotropic filtering is uneffected, so leave that enabled). I'm a bit of a graphics whore and the only thing I REALLY hate about the game's visuals is how crappy trees look. I REALLY wish I could enable transparency supersampling so it wouldn't look so bad. Other than that, I'm generally pleased with how the game looks.

You're right about the game's visuals level to performance ratio..it feels pretty unoptimized to me, but I'm still getting great framerates @ max.

My first impressions of the game weren't all that great either, when it came to gameplay. I really only played for 15-30 minuites at a time, and I didn't become terribly interested in the game until I neared the end of Cordon. Once I got used to the game's weapons and got to the second zone, things really started picking up though..and I now play hours at a time. Stick with it! It's a great game, even if flawed in some aspects. You may still find you don't like it, but give it some time before you decide that you hate it.

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#50 Skeptomania
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People have brought up that this game is similar to Oblivion in a lot of ways. Maybe that's part of the problem for me. I played Oblivion for 60+ hours until I finally just got burned out on it and haven't played since. Perhaps i'm just feeling burned out with STALKER too because of the similarities. Especially since I did most combat with a bow in Oblivion, which made it part FPS. Maybe i'll just shelve STALKER until the next patch. Perhaps i'll be more in the mood and the game will perform better then.