Japanese Isp to ban File Sharing.

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#1 crazycolt1234
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Story: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/15/japanese-isps-to-ban-file-sharers/ Japanese Internet Service Providers are attempting to track down file sharers and then cut off their service in order for them to curb piracy. Seems like another attempt to stopping piracy. I don't see this taking a lot of effect because encryption will just become more extensive and be nearly undetectable. Discuss
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#4 YourOldFriend
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It'd be great imo if all ISPs banded together and did this, since the vast (informal) majority of people use file sharing for illegal activities. The problem is that just one doing it just pushes people to other ISPs. People who go to the effort (however minimal for distributed program users) to improve encryption deserve (as much as a criminal does) the impunity it grants them.
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#5 Vampyronight
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The only people this might stop are the ones who have about a billion torrents running and those who wouldn't know where to get a good quality torrent.

Other than that, people will just find a better way around the situation. I'm glad that there are no proposed laws like this in the US.

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#6 bogaty
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Don't worry. It's coming to the US sooner than you think.


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/att-and-other-isps-may-be-getting-ready-to-filter/index.html

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/16/2317250&tid=95

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/25897/1/Countdown-SC-BushFISA.wmv

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#7 darkfox101
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Crap im living in japan, but US base.. wonder if ill be affected :o
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#8 NothingOnMyMind
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This would be terrible. How would I get the most out of my 50/month payment without filesharing while i'm not on? Hopefully this will never work.
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#9 Velocitas8
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They're probably cracking down on the "Anonymized" P2P Share/Perfect Dark networks, which are by far the most popular methods of file sharing in Japan. I really doubt this is going to do much, though. Cracking down on one or two methods of file sharing will just cause people to move on to something else..if you need any proof: just look at what happened in Japan with Winny. They can't realistically keep tabs on every protcol and file transfer.

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I believe that games should have some type of BETTER copy protection. I can only guess that its being researched right now but there can definately be a way to block people from getting to the source "disk content"
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#11 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I honestly hope not, file sharing is pretty nice to have when trying to find a out of the way mod.. Or older game thats now abandonware.. For instance I will not be able to redownload the modded Freespace 2 any more sense it is ona bit torrent.
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#12 Arronaxxx
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Lol, nothing good has ever been achieved by banning and forbidding things... So good luck to them.
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#13 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Don't worry. It's coming to the US sooner than you think.


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/att-and-other-isps-may-be-getting-ready-to-filter/index.html

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/16/2317250&tid=95

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/25897/1/Countdown-SC-BushFISA.wmv

bogaty

I fail to see how any one can even support this or act like its a good thing.. After all that would mean you are basically losing another freedom adn a damn useful method of download at times for companies... To me this seems as bad as a infringing copy write like Starforce..

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I believe that games should have some type of BETTER copy protection. I can only guess that its being researched right now but there can definately be a way to block people from getting to the source "disk content"TrooperManaic

No, there can't. Impervious copy protection is impossible, period. You can crack anything, and I mean anything.

Anyway, banning file sharing altogether is a really stupid way do this. Not everything on a torrent site is illegal to download.

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#15 Roris0A
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[QUOTE="bogaty"]sSubZerOo

I fail to see how any one can even support this or act like its a good thing.. After all that would mean you are basically losing another freedom adn a damn useful method of download at times for companies... To me this seems as bad as a infringing copy write like Starforce..

I think he was being sarcastic. But yeah this is horrible and the same damn thing is being proposed here. I don't like piracy but if they start to monitor our uploading and downloading and control it, what's next? This must be spread.

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#16 jollyriot2k1
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To be fair, when stuff like this starts happening the serious sharers just start using VPN's and SSL encryption... ISP won't have a clue what you're doing.
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#17 teebeenz
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They cant stop it, besides if they force PSP stuff like BT to stop they'll be facing some legal action from the companies using it to save money.
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#18 bogaty
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Told ya. It's already starting in N. America.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/080325/canada/technology_bell_throttling

TORONTO (CBC) - Bell Canada is slowing down access on its Sympatico internet servers for users who file share during prime time to prevent them from clogging the network, a spokesman said Tuesday.

Bell began the process, which it calls managing the bandwidth capacity but which is widely known as "throttling," on March 14. The company plans to have it rolled out across the Sympatico service area - Quebec and Ontario - by April 7, spokesman Jason Laszlo said.

It will be in effect during the peak period for internet use in late afternoon and the evening, he said. For people sharing files, the system "will simply not work as fast." But other users will not be delayed.

Bell, like other internet service providers, says it has capacity problems caused by person-to-person (P2P) file-sharing systems such as BitTorrent, which can be used to download movies, music and games. "We're certainly not unique in this," Laszlo said, adding that other service providers are managing P2P downloads.

P2P programs are only employed by a small percentage of internet users, but they tend to make use of all the available bandwidth, Laszlo said. Reduced P2P use should provide a better balance between P2P and other users at peak times, he said.

"I feel we're on the side of good," he said.

However Rocky Gaudrault, CEO of internet service provider Teksavvy, said Bell's move "may hinder a lot of legitimate downloading."

Bell has not officially announced the throttling initiative, but Gaudrault found out about it last week and said Bell confirmed the move in a meeting he attended Tuesday.

People watching the impact of Bell's new policy have begun to chart affected areas on a Google map, and University of Ottawa law professor and web commentator Michael Geist raised the matter in his blog.

Gaudrault said there could be privacy issues related to the throttling of specific types of internet traffic, but Laszlo denied that. "At no time do we monitor the content," he said.

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#19 deactivated-59d151f079814
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This sucks no matter how you scrap it.
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#20 BladeMaster84
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You can't stop piracy. When you try to do it all you do is cause a minor inconvenience to pirates and a major hassle to legitimate users.
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#21 TheCyberKnight
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Comcast already tries to "control" file sharing with their BS on P2P. They attempt to detect, then cut off your Bittorrents until you can't use 'em anymore.

I'm not going to post links etc, as there are too many. Just google: Comcast Bittorrent

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If they are not monitoring content then how do they know who is file sharing and who isn't? For all the know someone could have just made a graphic intense website and is uploading it.. so they'd slow their connection down too?
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Pretty much sums it up.