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Yeah it was a good game, but it really did take a while to get going. My final level was the Russian level where you head out into the street. It was sweet.
"Best ww2 to date" What about moh pacific assault? After playing that one, the world at war US levels and gameplay left me a harsh "Meh" I found the game pretty borring in comparison with cod4 plus weaker gunplay!!! "I'm off to buy modern warfare 1 now" Well as soon as you complete it, let me know, i bet you will enjoy the singleplayer much more!!!dakan45
I loved pacific assault. I actually started a playthrough of it recently. The game has its bugs, but it definitely is an amazing experience. I have always loved the MOH games over cod though.
A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland way
...and yet medal of honor airborne which was everything than generic.....failed!!! Anyway i wouldnt say that its going down the hill, mw2 had some nice ideas, features and objectives. Its just treyarch not doing it right!!A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland way
mrbojangles25
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]...and yet medal of honor airborne which was everything than generic.....failed!!! Anyway i wouldnt say that its going down the hill, mw2 had some nice ideas, features and objectives. Its just treyarch not doing it right!! what nice ideas? dual wielding shotgun that can shoot as far as sub machine guns? Being able to knife people from 6 feet away? Creating a garbage campaign and only focusing on multiplayer? Doesn't sound like good ideas to me...A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland way
dakan45
[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]...and yet medal of honor airborne which was everything than generic.....failed!!! Anyway i wouldnt say that its going down the hill, mw2 had some nice ideas, features and objectives. Its just treyarch not doing it right!! what nice ideas? dual wielding shotgun that can shoot as far as sub machine guns? Being able to knife people from 6 feet away? Creating a garbage campaign and only focusing on multiplayer? Doesn't sound like good ideas to me...A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland waySF_KiLLaMaN
I am not even gonna argue with you on that matter :( Creating a garbage compaign? we must have played a diffirent game. MW2 compaign was amazing but i guess not everyone understands that iw is trying to make you feel things while you playing a game, instead people are offended by the airpot level!!! :roll: very nice, thats why you bouhgt a game with a cinematic singleplayer experiance, to do NOT play linear scripted missions which help the cinematic story to move on and affect the player by causing to him diffirent emotions via insane plotwists!!!
Yeah lets drop all that and play the simple cod waw singleplayer, which is a game that all weapons handle the same and the only idea they had in mp was a tank in mp and a zombie map!!!
Both original and grounbreaking for the multiplayer :lol:
But what is more ironic is that you base your argument on things that are not 100 accurate. That someone made an awesome knife kill in x360, does not mean that everyone will be so lucky, but seriously where have you seen an mp game that has the ability to throw knives and its actually effective to do so, so people will use it and not ignore it!!
Needless to speak for spec ops mode!!!
As for the shotgun comment? its just plain wrong, but then again nothing beats the super accurate weapons of cod waw, so whats your point of your argument? That cod waw is a better and more reallistic game? Definetly not, neither its more impressive!!!
Maybe technically better because of the sole reason called dedicated servers that is so damn important for all of you people that not having it automaticly makes the game crap :roll:
So lets drop that and play cod4 that had dedicated servers.... but, wait a minute, i hardly bothered with cod4 mp because it felt old after a while. But mw2 made me play mp for hours, all those perks and abilities all those cool stuff, i just wanna unlock them all, having such a large amount of customazation on your equipment and so many choices takes the game to a whole new level!!! :) So i am just gonna say, "sir you are incorrect" and go back to mw2!!! Nuf said!!
@dakan45
He's not arguing against CoD: WaW, he's making comments about MW2. You just spent half an hour on an arguement without a target.
As for Killaman's statement, I completely agree on all points except the campaign. The dual wield long range shotgun muskets piss me off so much.
Spend half an hour on what argument? I made no argument and will not make one, i just said what i think about the games and posted for fun, and someone has to come and ruin it for me and tell me mw2 is crap.
I know that almost everyone on this forum will agreee with that, there is no need to say it again!!
Anyway i dissagree with both of you, the sawed off are not as accurate as smgs, perhaps you were referring to the lever action rilfe...
In any case i refuse to believe that your knife thrown skills are so good that the game automaticly finds targets for you every time you throw a knife!!!
So i am gonna go with the forum and agree on the fact that mw2 has problems on gameplay!!! But still those ideas are ideas, they are just not implemented well. I dont know about you but i rather have those ideas than not having them and be more like cod4 with which i did not bother as much in mp!!!
All games that trying to advertise some new immersive or innovative ideas and gameplay mechanics have problems with those mechanics, but at the end the fans of the game have fun with those mechanics despite their flaws!!!
So i will stick to my original point but i will make a correction, great ideas, maybe flawed but still great ideas that make the gameplay more immersive and innovative...well atleast for me!!!
All the heavy FPS hitters that came out in 2004 (Doom 3, Far Cry, Half Life 2) kind of overshadowed Pacific Assault, which is a shame, because it is easily the best WWII game set in the pacific, and the best MOH game apart from Allied Assault.
It was really impressive graphically for when it came out, and had some tech that wasn't seen again until Crysis (streams actually ran, vegetation reacted to explosions, some destructible environments).
It was also very authentic/historically accurate, had fantastic gunplay (better than Doom 3, HL 2 or Far Cry, by a large margin), and connects you with your squadmates in the same way that the Brothers in Arms games do.
Pacific Assault is easily one of my favorite shooters, its a shame it was overlooked by most people.
WaW wasn't bad, it was the first Treyarch COD game to come out for the PC since United Offense, and it was a very good port. The story lacked any depth or importance, and the mp was basically a carbon copy of that in MW1, but it was still a enjoyable shooter, and Treyarch supported the game with Map Packs better than IW supported MW 1. I enjoyed the missions set in the pacific since the Russian campaign once again tried to copy Enemy at the Gates (someone at Treyarch must really love that movie).
Spend half an hour on what argument? I made no argument and will not make one...
Anyway i dissagree with both of you, the sawed off are not as accurate as smgs, perhaps you were referring to the lever action rilfe...
dakan45
Lawls.
Anyway, I just got WaW and I like it a lot. Best CoD since CoD1! ^_^
[QUOTE="dakan45"]
Spend half an hour on what argument? I made no argument and will not make one...
Anyway i dissagree with both of you, the sawed off are not as accurate as smgs, perhaps you were referring to the lever action rilfe...
SemperFi10
Lawls.
Anyway, I just got WaW and I like it a lot. Best CoD since CoD1! ^_^
WHAT? Blashpemy, cod waw is overapreciatted its not beter than cod1 or cod2 or any medal of honor game its just a cheap and i say again cheap mod of cod4!!! I dont have any faith to people who think cod waw is better than cod2 or cod4, its just pure biased to IW, nothing more than IW hate, everything is better than Iw including pacman!!! ......lawls[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]...and yet medal of honor airborne which was everything than generic.....failed!!! Anyway i wouldnt say that its going down the hill, mw2 had some nice ideas, features and objectives. Its just treyarch not doing it right!!A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland way
dakan45
Why are you bashing Medal Of Honor when the topic is about a person just sharing his opinion on COD WAW? Anyways, since you've already started the discussion I will say Medal Of Honor Allied Assault beats any of the singleplayer campaigns in the Call Of Duty series. Too bad the game is dated now.
...and yet medal of honor airborne which was everything than generic.....failed!!! Anyway i wouldnt say that its going down the hill, mw2 had some nice ideas, features and objectives. Its just treyarch not doing it right!![QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland way
BLUBBBER
Why are you bashing Medal Of Honor when the topic is about a person just sharing his opinion on COD WAW? Anyways, since you've already started the discussion I will say Medal Of Honor Allied Assault beats any of the singleplayer campaigns in the Call Of Duty series. Too bad the game is dated now.
"why are you bashing medal of honor"
Nope i am not bashing it buddy, i actually liked the game for the sole reason that it was diffirent but it seems people did not like that either;), so when the game is not linear and generic, its repettive and borring, when its neither of those then its lame!! :roll:
Just something i gathered from moh airborne reviews!!!
So i stated it failed, or they wouldnt have gone for a mordern moh game!! Anyway it amazes me that when i say one bad thing about a game everyone quotes me but when someone else in this forum does it, its all fine and nice!!! Seriously why you guys give so much attention to my posts? Especially a user like yourself that does not go into many arguments!!! I
was only pointing out that people complain about games beeing generic and linear but moh that is neither and its still not welcome!!! Also i was just making a nice example of mw2 having some ideas and not totally going down the hill. MW2 is massively bashed and i just put a good word for it and made a nice notice!!! Then someone comes to bash mw2 and you telling me that i am bashing moh airborne???:shock: (clearly that was not my intention)
Seriously, what the hell? :cry:
[QUOTE="SemperFi10"][QUOTE="dakan45"]
Spend half an hour on what argument? I made no argument and will not make one...
Anyway i dissagree with both of you, the sawed off are not as accurate as smgs, perhaps you were referring to the lever action rilfe...
dakan45
Lawls.
Anyway, I just got WaW and I like it a lot. Best CoD since CoD1! ^_^
WHAT? Blashpemy, cod waw is overapreciatted its not beter than cod1 or cod2 or any medal of honor game its just a cheap and i say again cheap mod of cod4!!! I dont have any faith to people who think cod waw is better than cod2 or cod4, its just pure biased to IW, nothing more than IW hate, everything is better than Iw including pacman!!! ......lawlsJust because I disagree with you, I'm biased to IW? I was a huge fan of COD1 and happened to be very active in the modding and clan communities for that game! Please don't turn this into something it isn't.
Also, I never said WaW was better than COD1. It's the best since COD1. This is excluding the singleplayer... which was mainly rubbish in WaW. Although WaW took all of the ideas that made CoD4 a successful game, it worked. I wasn't much of a Modern Warfare fan. I enjoy WWII multiplayer more. But I did get it on sale, so it was cheap like you said. :P
WHAT? Blashpemy, cod waw is overapreciatted its not beter than cod1 or cod2 or any medal of honor game its just a cheap and i say again cheap mod of cod4!!! I dont have any faith to people who think cod waw is better than cod2 or cod4, its just pure biased to IW, nothing more than IW hate, everything is better than Iw including pacman!!! ......lawls[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="SemperFi10"]
Lawls.
Anyway, I just got WaW and I like it a lot. Best CoD since CoD1! ^_^
SemperFi10
Just because I disagree with you, I'm biased to IW? I was a huge fan of COD1 and happened to be very active in the modding and clan communities for that game! Please don't turn this into something it isn't.
Also, I never said WaW was better than COD1. It's the best since COD1. This is excluding the singleplayer... which was mainly rubbish in WaW. Although WaW took all of the ideas that made CoD4 a successful game, it worked. I wasn't much of a Modern Warfare fan. I enjoy WWII multiplayer more. But I did get it on sale, so it was cheap like you said. :P
Apologies then, but i made no refrence to mw2 on the post you just quoted, i was reffering to cod2 and cod4 which as far as i can tell they both had modding and clan communities, so i how i turn this into something it is not? If thats what you meant... Anyway i am more of a modern warfare fan. Like you said singleplayer of waw was average, not rubbish just not as impressive as the rest cod games. I honestly thinkg that cod2 had better mp than cod waw, maybe its just me disliking vehicles and preferring to use weapons that have diffirent handlings which improves the gameplay in my opinion!! So i would say that maybe you are right in capabilities cod waw has better multiplayer, but if mw2 did not have those well known issues, i would easilly say that mp is better than all cod games...or maybe its just me not being a hardcore compettive gamer!!I dont know if thats sarcasm or not, but anyway you see it moh did not pass the average attention spam!! EA tried to make the game impressive and immersive, now i actually liked the game but with cod4 around both singleplayer and mp seemed pretty meh!! So anyway you see it, critics scores or sales or fanbase...well it was just dissapeared in the mist like it never happened!! Now EA makes a smart and desperate move and takes the game to modern warfare since thats what sells!!You were right about Airborne, it did fail...
BLUBBBER
[QUOTE="SemperFi10"][QUOTE="dakan45"] WHAT? Blashpemy, cod waw is overapreciatted its not beter than cod1 or cod2 or any medal of honor game its just a cheap and i say again cheap mod of cod4!!! I dont have any faith to people who think cod waw is better than cod2 or cod4, its just pure biased to IW, nothing more than IW hate, everything is better than Iw including pacman!!! ......lawlsdakan45
Just because I disagree with you, I'm biased to IW? I was a huge fan of COD1 and happened to be very active in the modding and clan communities for that game! Please don't turn this into something it isn't.
Also, I never said WaW was better than COD1. It's the best since COD1. This is excluding the singleplayer... which was mainly rubbish in WaW. Although WaW took all of the ideas that made CoD4 a successful game, it worked. I wasn't much of a Modern Warfare fan. I enjoy WWII multiplayer more. But I did get it on sale, so it was cheap like you said. :P
Apologies then, but i made no refrence to mw2 on the post you just quoted, i was reffering to cod2 and cod4 which as far as i can tell they both had modding and clan communities, so i how i turn this into something it is not? If thats what you meant...Anyway i am more of a modern warfare fan. Like you said singleplayer of waw was average, not rubbish just not as impressive as the rest cod games. I honestly thinkg that cod2 had better mp than cod waw, maybe its just me disliking vehicles and preferring to use weapons that have diffirent handlings which improves the gameplay in my opinion!!
So i would say that maybe you are right in capabilities cod waw has better multiplayer, but if mw2 did not have those well known issues, i would easilly say that mp is better than all cod games...or maybe its just me not being a hardcore compettive gamer!!
:? I haven't once mentioned Modern Warfare 2 in this thread either...
When I said don't turn this into something it isn't, I was referring to the way that you went on about Infinity Ward. I wanted you to know that my reasons for not liking the Modern direction that CoD games have taken is purely a personal preference for the WWII setting.
I know a lot of people that really like the direction that it's going, and most of the gaming community seems to agree, but I'm one of the few that feels differently. I know that CoD 4 and 2 had a lot of modding action going on, but for some reason I didn't enjoy the maps in CoD2's multiplayer, and I was preoccupied with other games at the time. It just felt too much like CoD1 to me. Plus I actually preferred the health bar at the time.
If you enjoyed the game you don't need to care what others people think.badtaker
^ This.
Although I've been an avid fan of Call of Duty since Finest Hour (Yea, I know, a little late), I would have to say that WaW had the weakest campaign of all of the CoD games. It was disconnected, haphazard, and didn't start to really pick up until the last missions for each theatre that you played in.
However, I HIGHLY preferred the multiplayer in World At War above that of Modern Warfare, despite the fact that they were basically the same thing. I just enjoyed the weapons, maps, and attachments more so in WaW. Although I think they could have definitely continued on with that same formula and made it work better, I was perfectly happy with what I got and I was very, very happy to have spent that $50 on that game.
Also, since this basically turned into a CoD topic overall (rather than just WaW), I would like to throw out there that despite the massive and shocking negatives of MW2, I was blown away by the campaign. I don't really know why (probably seeing DC in ruins did it for me), but I have replayed the hell out of that campaign.
Apologies then, but i made no refrence to mw2 on the post you just quoted, i was reffering to cod2 and cod4 which as far as i can tell they both had modding and clan communities, so i how i turn this into something it is not? If thats what you meant...[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="SemperFi10"]
Just because I disagree with you, I'm biased to IW? I was a huge fan of COD1 and happened to be very active in the modding and clan communities for that game! Please don't turn this into something it isn't.
Also, I never said WaW was better than COD1. It's the best since COD1. This is excluding the singleplayer... which was mainly rubbish in WaW. Although WaW took all of the ideas that made CoD4 a successful game, it worked. I wasn't much of a Modern Warfare fan. I enjoy WWII multiplayer more. But I did get it on sale, so it was cheap like you said. :P
SemperFi10
Anyway i am more of a modern warfare fan. Like you said singleplayer of waw was average, not rubbish just not as impressive as the rest cod games. I honestly thinkg that cod2 had better mp than cod waw, maybe its just me disliking vehicles and preferring to use weapons that have diffirent handlings which improves the gameplay in my opinion!!
So i would say that maybe you are right in capabilities cod waw has better multiplayer, but if mw2 did not have those well known issues, i would easilly say that mp is better than all cod games...or maybe its just me not being a hardcore compettive gamer!!
:? I haven't once mentioned Modern Warfare 2 in this thread either...
When I said don't turn this into something it isn't, I was referring to the way that you went on about Infinity Ward. I wanted you to know that my reasons for not liking the Modern direction that CoD games have taken is purely a personal preference for the WWII setting.
I know a lot of people that really like the direction that it's going, and most of the gaming community seems to agree, but I'm one of the few that feels differently. I know that CoD 4 and 2 had a lot of modding action going on, but for some reason I didn't enjoy the maps in CoD2's multiplayer, and I was preoccupied with other games at the time. It just felt too much like CoD1 to me. Plus I actually preferred the health bar at the time.
A sorry when you talked about lack of clans and mod community i thought you meant mw2!! :) Anyway, to be honest with you i prefer the modern warfare setting but i hope for a good ww2 fps that is more less generic and linear ...like moh airborne for example sadly the new moh is going in modern direction. Anyway health bar was good but collecting all those medkits lying in the ground? I think it would have been beter if it was somewhat like moh pacific assault that you got a medic to heal you!!Anyway health bar was good but collecting all those medkits lying in the ground? I think it would have been beter if it was somewhat like moh pacific assault that you got a medic to heal you!!dakan45
Yeah I agree. I thought that was always a bit silly considering CoD1 campaigned on that whole "no one fights alone" idea.
^^ Good so we all agree, waw had the weakest compaign, waw mp was better than cod4 and mw2 would have the best mp if there wasnt the dedicated servers and lag issues that everyone seems to suffer from!!! Ohh and mw2 compaign was actually pretty good and not garbage like some people say!!! Its nice to agree!!! dakan45
Well, yes, I agree there :D
However, I am still enjoying MW2's mp, even though there are a lot of things that I would like to get rid of. It's fine though, seeing as I play a lot of F2P shooting games (finally changing with the dough rolling in!), I'm used to running into supremely cheap weapons, tactics, and other forms of lameness.
A lot of people have been saying CoD has been going downhill and I finally saw what they meant with CoD: WaW. It was...a mediocre game. It didnt do anything well, but didnt suck either.
I can handle vanilla gameplay, but it better be damn-near perfect vanilla gameplay. Quake 4, Doom 3...entirely unoriginal in terms of the fundamentals, and yet theyre great because they did them extremely well.
CoD: World at War executed the fundamentals in the most basic and bland way
mrbojangles25
agreed but id lump doom 3 into the same group as waw, infact i dont think it was as well polished or playable as waw.
cod 3 still the worst and least memorable cod game for me. and to think it was one of the reasons why i bought a 360:evil:
I am yet to atempt playing the game all the way to the end. First time i've played it couldn't manage to go further than the first soviet mission, the game it just so damn boring. It is not as bad as the third one, but it felt really dead. The feedback of weapons and overall interaction in CoD games feel really bad, after playing all of them i just can't even look to it anymore.
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