K-Lite or CCCP?

Which codec pack is the best?

I have K-lite installed but I do have CCCP on my pc. I got K-Lite first.

CCCP with Media Player Classic and AC3 Filter as an addon codec

VLC when videos appear to be broken or wont work in MPC

i use CCCP

vista codecs, lets me play almost any kind of video fileon windows media player http://shark007.net/vistacodecpackage.html

CCCP using the included build of Media Player Classic is the single best playback solution out there. I use it for all my video files.

For Blu-Ray/DVD playback, I use PowerDVD 9.

VLC when videos appear to be broken or wont work in MPCGigagamer2

When does that ever happen :? ..never come across a video that will play in VLC and won't in MPC. I don't have VLC installed anymore, but when I did, it was always the other way around..I'd get broken playback on MKV files in particular using VLC (VLC didn't support many of the container's features fully), yet they'd play back perfectly under MPC.

I use CCCP with MPC and VLC

CCCP using the included build of Media Player Classic is the single best playback solution out there. I use it for all my video files.

For Blu-Ray/DVD playback, I use PowerDVD 9.

[QUOTE="Gigagamer2"]VLC when videos appear to be broken or wont work in MPCVelocitas8

When does that ever happen :? ..never come across a video that will play in VLC and won't in MPC. I don't have VLC installed anymore, but when I did, it was always the other way around..I'd get broken playback on MKV files in particular using VLC (VLC didn't support many of the container's features fully), yet they'd play back perfectly under MPC.

DVDs dont work in MPC (copyright issue i think) and some unprotected VOB files dont work properly either. MPC on its own doesnt support real either and i think VLC does (but i dont have any real videos anymore). Also, VLC can play some rediculously high bitrate 1080p files which MPC sometimes lags in.

CCCP with MPC is the way to go

K-lite is much better and offers faster upgrades. Thumbnails also work perfect with K-lite and CCCP hasn't been updated since September of last year.

I am glad I wouldn't have to use these once Windows 7 comes out. I was using Vista codec pack but the most recent update broke mp4 streaming to the xbox 360. Go with K-lite.

Why do people use MPC when all you need is the regular media player?

DVDs dont work in MPC (copyright issue i think) and some unprotected VOB files dont work properly either. MPC on its own doesnt support real either and i think VLC does (but i dont have any real videos anymore). Also, VLC can play some rediculously high bitrate 1080p files which MPC sometimes lags in.Gigagamer2

Nope, DVDs work fine in MPC. Blu-Ray movies work as well with some limited functionality.

If it's not working for you, make sure you aren't using Haali's Renderer (View-->Options-->Playback-->Output), as it doesn't seem to like content with strict copy protection. I could only rarely get DVDs to work with Haali's, but the other renderers seem to work fine.

On the other hand, I prefer Haali's..so I just use a seperate program for DVD/Blu-Ray playback.

As for 1080p playback: if you're talking about H264 video content (which you probably are), MPC has a huge advantage with the option of using CoreAVC, an external decoder, which is vastly superior to VLC's internal H264 decoder. It is a retail product, but it supports awesome multi-core CPU decoding, as well as GPU acceleration.

Decoding 1080p content, my processor hovers at just 2%-4% load with CUDA acceleration enabled. With CUDA disabled, it hovers at ~10% usage and peaks at ~18% to ~20%

Yeah, you have to pay for it..but it's worth it, and VLC's internal decoder doesn't even begin to compare :)

Also, Real is a TERRIBLE set of formats, but MPC supports that as well via Real Alternative Lite. See here.

K-lite is much better and offers faster upgrades. Thumbnails also work perfect with K-lite and CCCP hasn't been updated since September of last yearDeihmos

Wrong..to..basically everything you posted.

A large number of people using the CCCP are using the beta builds. Latest build is actually May 8th, 2009 (that's just a couple weeks ago.) Also, care to name some of these "upgrades" that K-Lite has over the official September build of the CCCP? If anything,K-Lite is more than likely playing catch-up.

Also, check the Wiki and forums..it's another enormous advantage of the CCCP. Like this little entry: Thumbnails for the major containers.

The CCCP is the single best, least-bloated, and most well-rounded codec pack out there. It does not include anything that you don't need, unless perhaps you don't ever use subtitles. Furthermore, it isn't even a codec pack in the traditional sense. It actually installs no filters/decoders to your System32 directory, it isolates itself from the rest of your system completely.

I use K-lite, I have had no issues whatsoever with it and it works perfect for me.

Why do people use MPC when all you need is the regular media player?

Deihmos

That's what I want to know.

I use K-Lite and some thing which will allow WMP 11 to tag any type of music and add it to the library, it works perfect, well almost perfect becasue I once had the DivX codec mess up and stop working so I had to restart it.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why do people use MPC when all you need is the regular media player?

jakarai

That's what I want to know.

First off, what the hell is a "regular media player?"

Anyway, I use MPC because it's MADE to play video and nothing else. It's a minimalistic video player with a simple interface that consumes few resources, while still pulling along a robust set of video playback features that junkware like WMP can't match.

It's a program dedicated to video playback. Sure WMP can play video and organize your library..but I've never found WMP to do any one thing particularly well. I use a dedicated seperate program for music library organization & playback (foobar2000) just like I use a completely seperate, dedicated program for video playback (Media Player Classic.) Why try cutting your steak with a less-effective swiss army knife (WMP) when you have a proper steak knife right in front of you (MPC)?

That's how I feel about it, anyway. If you're happy with WMP, don't let me talk you out of using it.

[QUOTE="jakarai"]

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why do people use MPC when all you need is the regular media player?

Velocitas8

That's what I want to know.

First off, what the hell is a "regular media player?"

Anyway, I use MPC because it's MADE to play video and nothing else. It's a minimalistic video player with a simple interface that consumes few resources, while still pulling along a robust set of video playback features that junkware like WMP can't match.

It's a program dedicated to video playback. Sure WMP can play video and organize your library..but I've never found WMP to do any one thing particularly well. I use a dedicated seperate program for music library organization & playback (foobar2000) just like I use a completely seperate, dedicated program for video playback (Media Player Classic.) Why try cutting your steak with a less-effective swiss army knife (WMP) when you have a proper steak knife right in front of you (MPC)?

That's how I feel about it, anyway. If you're happy with WMP, don't let me talk you out of using it.

[QUOTE="Gigagamer2"]DVDs dont work in MPC (copyright issue i think) and some unprotected VOB files dont work properly either. MPC on its own doesnt support real either and i think VLC does (but i dont have any real videos anymore). Also, VLC can play some rediculously high bitrate 1080p files which MPC sometimes lags in.Velocitas8

Nope, DVDs work fine in MPC. Blu-Ray movies work as well with some limited functionality.

If it's not working for you, make sure you aren't using Haali's Renderer (View-->Options-->Playback-->Output), as it doesn't seem to like content with strict copy protection. I could only rarely get DVDs to work with Haali's, but the other renderers seem to work fine.

On the other hand, I prefer Haali's..so I just use a seperate program for DVD/Blu-Ray playback.

As for 1080p playback: if you're talking about H264 video content (which you probably are), MPC has a huge advantage with the option of using CoreAVC, an external decoder, which is vastly superior to VLC's internal H264 decoder. It is a retail product, but it supports awesome multi-core CPU decoding, as well as GPU acceleration.

Decoding 1080p content, my processor hovers at just 2%-4% load with CUDA acceleration enabled. With CUDA disabled, it hovers at ~10% usage and peaks at ~18% to ~20%

Yeah, you have to pay for it..but it's worth it, and VLC's internal decoder doesn't even begin to compare :)

Also, Real is a TERRIBLE set of formats, but MPC supports that as well via Real Alternative Lite. See here.

K-lite is much better and offers faster upgrades. Thumbnails also work perfect with K-lite and CCCP hasn't been updated since September of last yearDeihmos

Wrong..to..basically everything you posted.

A large number of people using the CCCP are using the beta builds. Latest build is actually May 8th, 2009 (that's just a couple weeks ago.) Also, care to name some of these "upgrades" that K-Lite has over the official September build of the CCCP? If anything,K-Lite is more than likely playing catch-up.

Also, check the Wiki and forums..it's another enormous advantage of the CCCP. Like this little entry: Thumbnails for the major containers.

The CCCP is the single best, least-bloated, and most well-rounded codec pack out there. It does not include anything that you don't need, unless perhaps you don't ever use subtitles. Furthermore, it isn't even a codec pack in the traditional sense. It actually installs no filters/decoders to your System32 directory, it isolates itself from the rest of your system completely.

To each his own. I try to use as little programs as possible. WMP meets all my needs so I don't even bother with anything else.jakarai

Yeah, I'm the complete opposite :P ..I like having dedicated tools for each little job. I have tons of nifty tools that I use frequently..right down to one dedicated solely to optimizing PNG files.

So you have to fiddle with the registry and use beta builds. That's why i say K-lite is better since everything works without issues.Deihmos

Okay, if you say so. Not trying to "convert" anyone or tell anyone what to use, just clearing up some inaccuracies.

[QUOTE="jakarai"]

That's what I want to know.

First off, what the hell is a "regular media player?"

Anyway, I use MPC because it's MADE to play video and nothing else. It's a minimalistic video player with a simple interface that consumes few resources, while still pulling along a robust set of video playback features that junkware like WMP can't match.

It's a program dedicated to video playback. Sure WMP can play video and organize your library..but I've never found WMP to do any one thing particularly well. I use a dedicated seperate program for music library organization & playback (foobar2000) just like I use a completely seperate, dedicated program for video playback (Media Player Classic.) Why try cutting your steak with a less-effective swiss army knife (WMP) when you have a proper steak knife right in front of you (MPC)?

That's how I feel about it, anyway. If you're happy with WMP, don't let me talk you out of using it.

That's exactly the same thing I always say lol. I see no point in installing another program that does the same damn thing. Deihmos

The issue for me is that it doesn't do the "same thing." With the notable feature differences aside, all versions of WMP also have various issues with the containers that I frequently use. No codec pack is capable of fixing them, as it stems from the player itself.

MPC works without any headaches, and the CCCP build specifically is pre-configured with ffdshow and tweaked to work with all major video file formats upon installation with full container-feature compatability (something VLC and WMP lack.) Doesn't get much easier than that.