KOTOR 3...Rise!

Well, SWTOR is now free to play and since 2005 we have not had the chance of a real good Star Wars single-player RPG since KOTOR 2. While the WoW clone might have been "fun" for many, we gamers who enjoyed KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are still hoping to see KOTOR 3. with SWTOR we were given the argument that this MMO was going to be KOTOR 3 + 4 +5 etc. Now, will either Obsidian or Bioware (er..EA) listen to hardcore fans and develope KOTOR 3? We would love to "be" Revan again, to be able to play the Exile, to enjoy an intricate story of dark/light side and shades in between (like in KOTOR 2 and Planescape Torment), influencing and saving/corrupting companions, factions...planets. Enough of MMO stuff and bring back the Force.

When hell freezes over

Well, SWTOR is now free to play and since 2005 we have not had the chance of a real good Star Wars single-player RPG since KOTOR 2. While the WoW clone might have been "fun" for many, we gamers who enjoyed KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are still hoping to see KOTOR 3. with SWTOR we were given the argument that this MMO was going to be KOTOR 3 + 4 +5 etc. Now, will either Obsidian or Bioware (er..EA) listen to hardcore fans and develope KOTOR 3? We would love to "be" Revan again, to be able to play the Exile, to enjoy an intricate story of dark/light side and shades in between (like in KOTOR 2 and Planescape Torment), influencing and saving/corrupting companions, factions...planets. Enough of MMO stuff and bring back the Force.

bayernfan

in biowares case it will be ebcause swotor has blasted a hole in EA's finances a MASSIVE HOLE. it was what 3.2 million to develop the game? its made less than 1 million total revenue. and thats BEFORE you factor in the paying of the development staff and the monthly server upkeep bills.

When they bought LucasArts, Disney mentioned a focus on social and mobile gaming. Which makes sense given how they abandoned high-profile gaming in 2011.

Don't expect much.

Even if they make a return on next-gen platforms I doubt they would trust BioWare and EA after TORtanic.

Screw that, we need a new jedi knight game. THAT IS... a new jedi knight game thats NOT inspired by god of war. Only then can I die a happy man.

I just gave up on KOTOR and convinced my self Mass Effect as the spiritual successor. flipin_jackass

It would be great... but I have little hope we will see the light of the day on that one. Maybe new Jedi Knight game? Image that with Star Wars 1313 concept, visuals and physics. :) I have spent little over 6 years in Jedi Outcast (if anyone remembers KOH guild) and would love to recreate those online moments again.

Well, SWTOR is now free to play and since 2005 we have not had the chance of a real good Star Wars single-player RPG since KOTOR 2. While the WoW clone might have been "fun" for many, we gamers who enjoyed KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are still hoping to see KOTOR 3. with SWTOR we were given the argument that this MMO was going to be KOTOR 3 + 4 +5 etc. Now, will either Obsidian or Bioware (er..EA) listen to hardcore fans and develope KOTOR 3? We would love to "be" Revan again, to be able to play the Exile, to enjoy an intricate story of dark/light side and shades in between (like in KOTOR 2 and Planescape Torment), influencing and saving/corrupting companions, factions...planets. Enough of MMO stuff and bring back the Force.

bayernfan

That would be absolutely amazing, but don't expect it anytime soon lol, or anytime at all for that matter.

I just gave up on KOTOR and convinced my self Mass Effect as the spiritual successor. flipin_jackass

I tried the same thing. Hope it worked out better for you than me!

Misleading title lol. I almost wet my pants in excitement thinking it was confirmed or you had word about it rising.

Well nice way to build a guys hopes up then crush it to the floor.... Either way i've given up on Kotor 3 a long, long time ago (pun intended).

When they bought LucasArts, Disney mentioned a focus on social and mobile gaming. Which makes sense given how they abandoned high-profile gaming in 2011.

Don't expect much.

Even if they make a return on next-gen platforms I doubt they would trust BioWare and EA after TORtanic.

Baranga

This. I read somewhere that Disney would rather focus on social type star wars games like angry birds and 1313 would be the last high profile star wars game. Sucks because I would love to see a KOTOR 3 even though TOR could be seen as KOTOR 3 or a new Jedi Night Series but sadly with Disney in charge now and what happened with TOR I wouldn't get my hopes up.

the devs said that SWTOR is KOTOR 3,4,5,6 etc. somehow I don't believe them.couly

[QUOTE="bayernfan"]

Well, SWTOR is now free to play and since 2005 we have not had the chance of a real good Star Wars single-player RPG since KOTOR 2. While the WoW clone might have been "fun" for many, we gamers who enjoyed KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are still hoping to see KOTOR 3. with SWTOR we were given the argument that this MMO was going to be KOTOR 3 + 4 +5 etc. Now, will either Obsidian or Bioware (er..EA) listen to hardcore fans and develope KOTOR 3? We would love to "be" Revan again, to be able to play the Exile, to enjoy an intricate story of dark/light side and shades in between (like in KOTOR 2 and Planescape Torment), influencing and saving/corrupting companions, factions...planets. Enough of MMO stuff and bring back the Force.

ionusX

in biowares case it will be ebcause swotor has blasted a hole in EA's finances a MASSIVE HOLE. it was what 3.2 million to develop the game? its made less than 1 million total revenue. and thats BEFORE you factor in the paying of the development staff and the monthly server upkeep bills.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

When they bought LucasArts, Disney mentioned a focus on social and mobile gaming. Which makes sense given how they abandoned high-profile gaming in 2011.

Don't expect much.

Even if they make a return on next-gen platforms I doubt they would trust BioWare and EA after TORtanic.

toddx77

This. I read somewhere that Disney would rather focus on social type star wars games like angry birds and 1313 would be the last high profile star wars game. Sucks because I would love to see a KOTOR 3 even though TOR could be seen as KOTOR 3 or a new Jedi Night Series but sadly with Disney in charge now and what happened with TOR I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="bayernfan"]

Well, SWTOR is now free to play and since 2005 we have not had the chance of a real good Star Wars single-player RPG since KOTOR 2. While the WoW clone might have been "fun" for many, we gamers who enjoyed KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are still hoping to see KOTOR 3. with SWTOR we were given the argument that this MMO was going to be KOTOR 3 + 4 +5 etc. Now, will either Obsidian or Bioware (er..EA) listen to hardcore fans and develope KOTOR 3? We would love to "be" Revan again, to be able to play the Exile, to enjoy an intricate story of dark/light side and shades in between (like in KOTOR 2 and Planescape Torment), influencing and saving/corrupting companions, factions...planets. Enough of MMO stuff and bring back the Force.

kyle_360

in biowares case it will be ebcause swotor has blasted a hole in EA's finances a MASSIVE HOLE. it was what 3.2 million to develop the game? its made less than 1 million total revenue. and thats BEFORE you factor in the paying of the development staff and the monthly server upkeep bills.

what i find funny about all this is that games nobody thought were going to succeed like APB: R is actually turning a profit for gamersfirst now and will probably keep itself alive for longer than swotor will be around as a result. EA isnt stupid their willing to burn a village if it means they dont lose more money on them.

If KOTOR 3 were to be developed by Bioware, it would be dumbed down as much as Mass Effect 3.

[QUOTE="couly"]the devs said that SWTOR is KOTOR 3,4,5,6 etc. somehow I don't believe them.FelipeInside

ewwww, don't even compare tor's attrocious voice acting and plots to KotoR :P

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="couly"]the devs said that SWTOR is KOTOR 3,4,5,6 etc. somehow I don't believe them.wis3boi

ewwww, don't even compare tor's attrocious voice acting and plots to KotoR :P

[QUOTE="toddx77"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

When they bought LucasArts, Disney mentioned a focus on social and mobile gaming. Which makes sense given how they abandoned high-profile gaming in 2011.

Don't expect much.

Even if they make a return on next-gen platforms I doubt they would trust BioWare and EA after TORtanic.

kyle_360

This. I read somewhere that Disney would rather focus on social type star wars games like angry birds and 1313 would be the last high profile star wars game. Sucks because I would love to see a KOTOR 3 even though TOR could be seen as KOTOR 3 or a new Jedi Night Series but sadly with Disney in charge now and what happened with TOR I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Misleading title lol. I almost wet my pants in excitement thinking it was confirmed or you had word about it rising.

Well nice way to build a guys hopes up then crush it to the floor.... Either way i've given up on Kotor 3 a long, long time ago (pun intended).

BattleSpectre

It was no intended to mislead, it was intended as a claim of KOTOR fans to make developers and publishers realize we want that game. They always say they give the market what it wants but, most of the times, they develope games they want us to play. I am aware that KOTOR 3 is far from the developers spectrum, and if it is, then it surely is some kind of mutated thing. So much for marketing research...

[QUOTE="kyle_360"][QUOTE="ionusX"] they wont bioware is done laying golden eggs which means its about that time for EA to take em behind the woodshed and exectue them like they did so many other developers before them. EA is alot like a brainwashing rapist, acivision too while we are at it. they make you feel that what theyre doing to you and your talent is normal and okay.. and then they murder you with a knife while your too exhausted to run away when theyve grown bored of you.

in biowares case it will be ebcause swotor has blasted a hole in EA's finances a MASSIVE HOLE. it was what 3.2 million to develop the game? its made less than 1 million total revenue. and thats BEFORE you factor in the paying of the development staff and the monthly server upkeep bills.

ionusX

what i find funny about all this is that games nobody thought were going to succeed like APB: R is actually turning a profit for gamersfirst now and will probably keep itself alive for longer than swotor will be around as a result. EA isnt stupid their willing to burn a village if it means they dont lose more money on them.

Actually the development cost around 200 million, making it the most expensive game development project ever done. While we have no word on their profits or the number of players its pretty clear that the game didnt meet expectations.

[QUOTE="BattleSpectre"]

Misleading title lol. I almost wet my pants in excitement thinking it was confirmed or you had word about it rising.

Well nice way to build a guys hopes up then crush it to the floor.... Either way i've given up on Kotor 3 a long, long time ago (pun intended).

bayernfan

It was no intended to mislead, it was intended as a claim of KOTOR fans to make developers and publishers realize we want that game. They always say they give the market what it wants but, most of the times, they develope games they want us to play. I am aware that KOTOR 3 is far from the developers spectrum, and if it is, then it surely is some kind of mutated thing. So much for marketing research...

I think you are a bit mistaken there. There were heaps of people asking for an online KOTOR, or a new Star Wars MMO.

[QUOTE="bayernfan"]

[QUOTE="BattleSpectre"]

Misleading title lol. I almost wet my pants in excitement thinking it was confirmed or you had word about it rising.

Well nice way to build a guys hopes up then crush it to the floor.... Either way i've given up on Kotor 3 a long, long time ago (pun intended).

FelipeInside

It was no intended to mislead, it was intended as a claim of KOTOR fans to make developers and publishers realize we want that game. They always say they give the market what it wants but, most of the times, they develope games they want us to play. I am aware that KOTOR 3 is far from the developers spectrum, and if it is, then it surely is some kind of mutated thing. So much for marketing research...

I think you are a bit mistaken there. There were heaps of people asking for an online KOTOR, or a new Star Wars MMO.

You are probably right about people asking for an MMO of SW, but the end product (SWTOR) was not what KOTOR fans wanted. the only epic thing about SWTOR was its trailer. Fun, probably, but not what gamers of the original KOTOR and KOTOR 2 were asking for. It was more a WoW and LOTRO clone. Developers, or perhaps the publihser, thought it was safer to launch an MMO more like WoW to appeal the masses. KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are single-player experinces, each with its weakneses and strengths, and each one made an impact on fans due to its game-play and story-telling. SWTOR did achieve lots of suscribers, but it cannot replace the hunger for KOTOR 3 as a single-player experience.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="bayernfan"]

It was no intended to mislead, it was intended as a claim of KOTOR fans to make developers and publishers realize we want that game. They always say they give the market what it wants but, most of the times, they develope games they want us to play. I am aware that KOTOR 3 is far from the developers spectrum, and if it is, then it surely is some kind of mutated thing. So much for marketing research...

bayernfan

I think you are a bit mistaken there. There were heaps of people asking for an online KOTOR, or a new Star Wars MMO.

You are probably right about people asking for an MMO of SW, but the end product (SWTOR) was not what KOTOR fans wanted. the only epic thing about SWTOR was its trailer. Fun, probably, but not what gamers of the original KOTOR and KOTOR 2 were asking for. It was more a WoW and LOTRO clone. Developers, or perhaps the publihser, thought it was safer to launch an MMO more like WoW to appeal the masses. KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are single-player experinces, each with its weakneses and strengths, and each one made an impact on fans due to its game-play and story-telling. SWTOR did achieve lots of suscribers, but it cannot replace the hunger for KOTOR 3 as a single-player experience.

Obsidian has said in the past they would LOVE to do a game in the star wars world again, one can only hope! KOTOR2 with the restored mod is fantastic.

Obsidian has said in the past they would LOVE to do a game in the star wars world again, one can only hope! KOTOR2 with the restored mod is fantastic.

kozzy1234