Kudo Tsunoda says id and valve should stop RAGE and portal 2 on PC

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#1 macronia
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Halo did an awesome job of building a first-person shooter exclusively for the console, and now hardly anyone plays first-person shooters on the PC anymore

Hey id, Valve? Might want to stop developing RAGE or Portal 2 for PC now

i want to kick his big fat @ss

check the full interview @ Gameinformer

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#2 ucme4k
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hardly anyone plays first-person shooters on the PC anymoremacronia
LOL The only fps played on prestiged international esports competitions are PC EXCLUSIVE(counter-strike for team based and quake live for duel). But this is about numbers and he never proves his point.
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#3 adamosmaki
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Someone should point him to steam stats and show him how many people play CS, MW2, TF2 and L4D2 on Steam alone
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#4 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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His interview was to extol the "capabilities" of Kinect and try to show how it has the potential to be "better" than PC for shooters. Frankly, he doesn't know what he is talking about.
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#5 JangoWuzHere
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What can the Kinect do for modern games? At least the Sony move can go somewhere, but the kinect has nothing to go on besides maybe stupid party games.

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#6 Hekynn
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lmao like that's gonna stop ID and Valve with their new titles and that's just saying to PC users to stop playing PC games ya right Kudo were NOT gonna stop playing on the PC.
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#7 XXI_World
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...and now hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore...

Kuno Tsunoda



God, at least do some research before speaking.

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#8 coreybg
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Lol. I'd like to see what Gabe has to say about that xD

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#10 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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just another part of the recent movement against PC gaming

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#11 mhofever
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Who the **** is this guy?!? To me he's some troll who's spewing crap about PC Gaming.

No one's going to listen to a nobody so it's not like whatever he said in that interview really matters.

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#12 rhazzy
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Who the **** is this guy?!? To me he's some troll who's spewing crap about PC Gaming.

No one's going to listen to a nobody so it's not like whatever he said in that interview really matters.

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The smartest the most meaningful post on this thread...the absolute truth!!!!Sir, i salute you :D

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#13 jun_aka_pekto
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In the interest of fairness, perhaps there should be another contest between mouse and keyboard using PC gamers and Kinect-using 360 gamers ona cross-platform game that's to be agreed upon. Only then will we see if Kinect is all hot air or not.

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#14 ShimmerMan
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Quote:"People for the longest time tried to port shooters from the PC onto the console. And people said the same things that they are saying now about Kinect – "It's never going to be responsive enough to do this," or "You're never going to get a fun first person shooter on the console – it's only made for a keyboard and mouse and that is the way it is supposed to be played."

Yes and console FPS are still not responsive on the home console. Sure maybe they can hit some nice sale figures by selling to dumbed down mainstream market. That doesn't change the fact that FPS still plays a lot better on the PC.

"Halo did an awesome job of building a first-person shooter exclusively for the console, and now hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore. It's all about the console. "

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games. At number five you have TF2 with 13k, number six LFD2 with 10k, And this is just Steam. So we're not even factoring in games outside steam such as BC:2.

And this guy created Kinect? I have no doubt that Kinect will end up just like what he spews in his interviews.. crap.

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#15 call_of_duty_10
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Gabe should beat this guy up.

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#16 Baranga
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Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

ShimmerMan

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

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#17 rollermint
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... Where the heck did Msoft get this guy from? System Wars? I suppose even on the professional development level, you still get trolls....
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#18 rollermint
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Steam stats don't even count those playing using LAN or using non-steam services. Besides, how many are playing Halo 1-3? Seriously honest question.
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#19 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

rollermint

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Steam stats don't even count those playing using LAN or using non-steam services. Besides, how many are playing Halo 1-3? Seriously honest question.

1 and 2 were shut down on consoles. Halo 1 still has a strong PC community though :lol:

I guess 3 and ODST are still played a lot, but I'm too lazy to search the numbers. They must be on Bungie's site.

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#20 ShimmerMan
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Yes that is where 95% of the whole xbox360 user base is right now. because A: Halo is the only popular FPS on Xbox360, and B: everyone plays Halo when it's released. That user base will dwindle. PC FPS user base is as large and just more spread out among many different titles, because the PC has more variety.

Also another reason is that PC has more variety in all genres. At the moment I'm not playing any FPS because I'm playing Starcraft 2. And I'm sure that is the same for many other PC users.

Consoles really don't have options. they're pretty much stuck with FPS for good multiplayer. They don't get good MMORPGs or good strategy titles to pull them away from playing Halo. they get a few good but ultimately gimmicky multiplayer games here and there, such as Red dead, and RE5. But they don't last long, there's nothing consistent about them. So most of the user base just goes back to playing Halo 24/7. Zzzzzzzzz.

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#21 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

The PS3's equivalent to Halo is what, Killzone? Check out how much players that has.
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#22 haberman13
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Poor console gamers ... Halo is depressingly sterile and repititious.

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#23 deactivated-5e376fa88bd45
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And the reality of the situation just goes on with its usual business of doing fine on the PC. Nothing but a delusional man here folks, just keep moving along.

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#24 _Pedro_
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Who is Kudo Tsunoda?
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#25 ucme4k
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Does that mean there are 260k people online that have halo reach, 260k people are playing halo reach and are connected to the internetz or that there are 260 k people playing multiplayer of reach?
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#26 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="ucme4k"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Does that mean there are 260k people online that have halo reach, 260k people are playing halo reach and are connected to the internetz or that there are 260 k people playing multiplayer of reach?

who knows, or cares. You cant say hardly anyone plays fps games on pc no matter how many people play on console. Things dont work that way.
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#27 mattuk69
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Who is Kudo Tsunoda? _Pedro_
A dead man walking that's who!
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#28 ucme4k
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[QUOTE="ucme4k"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

TerrorRizzing

Does that mean there are 260k people online that have halo reach, 260k people are playing halo reach and are connected to the internetz or that there are 260 k people playing multiplayer of reach?

who knows, or cares. You cant say hardly anyone plays fps games on pc no matter how many people play on console. Things dont work that way.

I was just curious :P

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#29 ventnor
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

And there's 2.3 Million people online on steam right now, sure not all of them are playing FPS but you get the point (And then there's the people not on steam)

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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="ucme4k"] Does that mean there are 260k people online that have halo reach, 260k people are playing halo reach and are connected to the internetz or that there are 260 k people playing multiplayer of reach?ucme4k

who knows, or cares. You cant say hardly anyone plays fps games on pc no matter how many people play on console. Things dont work that way.

I was just curious :P

haha fair enough, its obvious halo is popular. Halo and call of duty are monsters on console, but I cant really think of many other games people play online either. On pc, its a huge world of online games in different genres.
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#31 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="ventnor"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

And there's 2.3 Million people online on steam right now, sure not all of them are playing FPS but you get the point (And then there's the people not on steam)

probably about 1 million more on battle.net, and another few million on other services.
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#32 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Who is Kudo Tsunoda? mattuk69
A dead man walking that's who!

I'm just wondering how someone who came out and said something like that is even in such a position to begin with. PR nonesense is one thing, but who is he trying to convince here? Is he telling Gabe to relinquish his near monopolistic hold on the PC market just to get a shot at becoming the next Halo?
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#33 Swiftstrike5
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Who is Kudo Tsunoda? _Pedro_

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Why should anyone listen to him?

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#34 Baranga
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Who is Kudo Tsunoda? _Pedro_
A dead man walking that's who!

I'm just wondering how someone who came out and said something like that is even in such a position to begin with. PR nonesense is one thing, but who is he trying to convince here? Is he telling Gabe to relinquish his near monopolistic hold on the PC market just to get a shot at becoming the next Halo?

He actually didn't mention id and Valve in the interview:P VG247 added this comment when reporting the "news".

He's just hyping his console, nothing wrong with that. PC gamers know better, Xbox dudebros think he's saying the truth - everybody wins.

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#35 rollermint
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Who is Kudo Tsunoda? mattuk69
A dead man walking that's who!

No, a System Wars troll who landed a job with Microsoft :P
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#36 deactivated-59d151f079814
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ID I really couldn't care less about.. But does he seriously think Valve would ever listen to such ridiculous rhetoric when their main base is on the PC.. And has been that way for over a decade? This would be like telling Blizzard to abandon the PC.
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#37 D1zzyCriminal
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Im sure John Carmack would love being a console only developer. With all that lovely powerfull 4 year old hardware im sure he could really push his programming expertise to the limits :roll:

Some people just want to kill PC gaming, but it wont happen.

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#38 Mograine
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Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Baranga

Omg noone plays consoles! People should stop making games on consoles!

Seriously :|

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#39 lambalot
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[QUOTE="ventnor"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

TerrorRizzing

And there's 2.3 Million people online on steam right now, sure not all of them are playing FPS but you get the point (And then there's the people not on steam)

probably about 1 million more on battle.net, and another few million on other services.

If you add the WoW player base with Battle.net your talking what 10million + more.

Id take PC over console anyday.

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#40 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Mograine

Omg noone plays consoles! People should stop making games on consoles!

Seriously :|

Since when are people playing shooters on Battle.net?

The dude only mentioned FPS games:P

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#41 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

I would hope it has more than 5 year old shooters...

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#42 coreybg
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

edinsftw

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

I would hope it has more than 5 year old shooters...

That 260k will lose it's 0 in a couple of years...console games just don't last

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#43 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

coreybg

I would hope it has more than 5 year old shooters...

That 260k will lose it's 0 in a couple of years...console games just don't last

yea i know, but a game that just came out that has the highest % of users of xbox live should have more...

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#44 Cronik959
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

and WoW has more 10 million strong playing it......Its not an FPS but you get the point.

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#45 schu
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

How long will this last though? I bet in 6 months the game will have less than half that

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#46 UpInFlames
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[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

Now this guy is just talking out of his posterior. No one plays FPS on PC any more? Just look at steam statistics. Todays top three most played games. MW2, CS:S. And normal CS.. At the moment there's over 150k players playing these three games.

Baranga

Halo Reach has over 260k online right now:P

Halo Reach just launched. Counter-Strike: Source is 6 years old, 1.6 about 10 years. Let's see how many people will play Reach in that time. Oh, that's right - zero because Microsoft will shut down Live for the 360 once their next console launches. :wink:

By the way, OP, the guy didn't say what you're suggesting in the title. That was added by the journalist as a tongue-in-cheek retort.

But the guy is an idiot. Microsoft has just made a big stink about re-focusing on PC gaming and Microsoft should still have a vested interest in the well-being of PC as a gaming platform so to hear stuff like this coming from the company is pure idiocy.

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#47 rzepak
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I remember some time ago MS saying that they are going to focus on PC games more. I think thats not going to happen...oh and for the love of god fire Kudo becouse he is an idiot.

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#48 theshadowhunter
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that is a load of BS, this man has no idea what he's talking about.

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#49 PTMags
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O rly?

DICE says otherwise.

http://kotaku.com/5487038/battlefield-bad-company-2-players-prefer-pc-to-console

What a tool.

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#50 Baranga
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/20/around-266505-people-played-an-fps-on-a-pc-today/

lol