Looking at getting a new TV right..

Im gunna be hooking up an Xbox 360, but also want a good TV for
footy and movies..

Ive heard there are some burn-in issues with plasma's,
and also some lag issues with LCDS as well as LCDs pixels going out.

Anyone know anything about this? Im looking at spending about $1500.

So Panasonic Plasma around 1300 and LG LCD around 1500
are two im looking at right now, both 42".

Any burn issues youve experienced? Any recomendations?

There are IR issues with Plasmas, in the sense that you might get some, but it's temporary.

I dont beleive you'll find many if any cases if permanent burn in on Plasmas anymore, and i would venture to say you'd be happier with the plasma, firstly for it's great handling of motion and no input lag.

But also, and this is my personal experience, as a gamer you probably dont blink as much as when you're watching normal tv. Do you notice on your old tv that sometiems after playing an intense game that your eyes are kind of sore and dry when you close them afterward? well i feel like on an LCD that happens even quicker and more intense. I feel that the light plasma gives off is a little easier on the eyes especially for gamers that have their eyes open more on average when they are gaming.

Since they've first come out, the lag issue and dead pixels on LCDs and the burn-in on plasmas has been addressed; you won't need to worry much about those issues.Ugotownedo

Dead Pixels have been addressed sure....by having warranties that require a certain amount of them for it to be returnable, but they havent eliminated them, getting a dead pixel can very easily still happen (of course, you can also get a dead pixel on a plasma display).

Since they've first come out, the lag issue and dead pixels on LCDs and the burn-in on plasmas has been addressed; you won't need to worry much about those issues.Ugotownedo

Plasmas are nearly phased out, so while you can get one cheaper, the technology is near dead. LCDs are going to be the industry norm, until OLEDs are more readily available, and a heck of a lot less expensive.dru26

Unless you actually know what you're talking about, i'd make it clear this is your opinion and not a fact.

Plasmas are being pushed into a niche market, but they are still the better display, and thats what is keeping them around, and likely will until OLED phases both of them out (if it doesnt end up bombing).

Suffice it to say until LCD's can address some key issues ineherent in their technology, they wont be the norm for anyone who wants the best display.

[QUOTE="dru26"]Plasmas are nearly phased out, so while you can get one cheaper, the technology is near dead. LCDs are going to be the industry norm, until OLEDs are more readily available, and a heck of a lot less expensive.Dirk13

Unless you actually know what you're talking about, i'd make it clear this is your opinion and not a fact.

Plasmas are being pushed into a niche market, but they are still the better display, and thats what is keeping them around, and likely will until OLED phases both of them out (if it doesnt end up bombing).

Suffice it to say until LCD's can address some key issues ineherent in their technology, they wont be the norm for anyone who wants the best display.

well said.

[QUOTE="dru26"]Plasmas are nearly phased out, so while you can get one cheaper, the technology is near dead. LCDs are going to be the industry norm, until OLEDs are more readily available, and a heck of a lot less expensive.Dirk13

Unless you actually know what you're talking about, i'd make it clear this is your opinion and not a fact.

Plasmas are being pushed into a niche market, but they are still the better display, and thats what is keeping them around, and likely will until OLED phases both of them out (if it doesnt end up bombing).

Suffice it to say until LCD's can address some key issues ineherent in their technology, they wont be the norm for anyone who wants the best display.

From what i've seen it "was" some time ago stated fact that you have to be careful to avoid burn in, but if you still beleive this your information is a little outdated. I dont know what tv you had or what you to cause burn in within a month, but at this point, i beleive it's almost as unlikely as talking about Burn in on tube televisions (which is possible as well, and in many ways probably referenced in their manuals similarly, simply as a usualy precautionary measure, but to lesser degree due to history and context).

As i mentioned before, i find that LCD's have their own troubles that make them much further to the superior "gaming" technology than people think. Heavily increased eyestrain, input lag, and worser handling of motion balance the scales alot more.

I have heard very few horror stories as it realtes to burn in from gamers that have bought plasma displays on places like AVS, and the people with busted displays are usually the most vocal.

I love my Panasonic plasma. I do nothing BUT game on it and i have no issue with burned in images.Videodogg

YES! Panasonic Plasmas are awesome!

That first 100 hours, you need to take care of the TV. Like let the tv run without images for 100 hours.

Then you won't have any problems after that.

Also plasma are not "dead" Most panasonics, and Samsung are plasmas. Plus they are cheaper then LCD.

If you worried so much IR which is rare these days then go buy an LCD. Plasma have bettter picture, and no lag.

I love my Panasonic plasma. I do nothing BUT game on it and i have no issue with burned in images.Videodogg

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]I love my Panasonic plasma. I do nothing BUT game on it and i have no issue with burned in images.Boxcutters

YES! Panasonic Plasmas are awesome!

That first 100 hours, you need to take care of the TV. Like let the tv run without images for 100 hours.

Then you won't have any problems after that.

Also plasma are not "dead" Most panasonics, and Samsung are plasmas. Plus they are cheaper then LCD.

If you worried so much IR which is rare these days then go buy an LCD. Plasma have bettter picture, and no lag.

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]I love my Panasonic plasma. I do nothing BUT game on it and i have no issue with burned in images.raahsnavj

I game all night on my plasma no problems, why?

My panasonic has anti burn in protection, that does it automatically without disturbing the user.

Your wrong!

You are just making any excuse to hate on plasma because you bought the wrong model, and you didn't do your reseach.

The IR is temporary. It will go away on it's own if you let the TV rest.

It's your fault for not taking care of your TV for the first 100 hours.

Even an LCD tells you to do that.

[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]I love my Panasonic plasma. I do nothing BUT game on it and i have no issue with burned in images.Boxcutters

I game all night on my plasma no problems, why?

My panasonic has anti burn in protection, that does it automatically without disturbing the user.

I think you put your plasma on TORCH MODE that's why you got the burn in.

Hint - turn down the contrast, and picture.

I think you put your plasma on TORCH MODE that's why you got the burn in.

Hint - turn down the contrast, and picture.

Boxcutters

[QUOTE="Boxcutters"]

I think you put your plasma on TORCH MODE that's why you got the burn in.

Hint - turn down the contrast, and picture.

raahsnavj

Heaven Forbid anyone using thier TV on Factory settings.

I wonder why people pay for ISF calibartion.

No wonder you get screen burn.

Anti Burnin is call pixel shift genuis, go google it. Nothing to do with colors.

I hope your next TV explodes!

[QUOTE="Boxcutters"]

I think you put your plasma on TORCH MODE that's why you got the burn in.

Hint - turn down the contrast, and picture.

raahsnavj

Actually Plasmas are NOT known for bright colors, that's LCD's. to be honest, when i bought an LCD i had to put it on "dim" anyway, actually, if you put the backlight on auto and turn the lights off it dimmed itself way below the lowest manual backlight setting (apparently it was of the tv's opinion that with no lights on it should be dimmer than the the lowest settings a person can set it to, go figure).

So even with an LCD you'll likely end up with a similar brightness setting to a plasma anyway if you're doing it right, oddly enough.

You want a display that is known for a realy tough resistance to IR/Burn in of any kind and just so happens to be hailed as the best display made today, even with the 720p versions? get-a-Pioneer

Holy crap I dont know what to get.....

From what ive seen. I like the picture of a 42" Panasonic TV..its $1400 Australian dollars...

I game for about 6 hours once a week, then about 3 hours a couple more times a week,

so thats not enough to cause any burn in problems on a plasma right?

Holy crap I dont know what to get.....

From what ive seen. I like the picture of a 42" Panasonic TV..its $1400 Australian dollars...

I game for about 6 hours once a week, then about 3 hours a couple more times a week,

so thats not enough to cause any burn in problems on a plasma right?

simo98088

no you will be fine If you buy the panasonic just keep it on cinema settings thats what I do and the screen puts out hardly any heat at all so no chance of burn in even in you play all day long

You'll be fine with a plasma, yes they have image rentention but it does go away. I own a samsung fp-t 5084 contrast at 90 brightness at 58 and other settings tweaked to my liking, it's not on dynamic mode though ( movie mode ) The biggest scare I had was watching family guy dvd and I fell asleep, while I did set the sleep timer on the tv it was like 1 and half hours sitting at the menu so when I turned on the tv all I saw was family guy, it was only rentention went away with the bulit in screen protection, ran the scroller for a half hour and all was gone.

I game on mine with no issues, 6 hours straight no problems, the newer plasmas are even better. I've owned many tv technologies ie: dlp, lcd, crt, plasma and I like my plasma the best in everyway just gotta be smart, if your gonna game for 10 hours straight give the tv a break run the screen protection features it has every so often.

When I was playing forza 2 the one night I put 9 hours on the tv and the km/h dial was on the screen for quite a while, days but it did go away, I was playing that game everyday so it was understandable. But have no fear and enjoy the plasma ecspecailly if that is what looked best to you!

Panasonic has the IR pixel shift technology, plus they make beautiful plasmas.

I can game for hours and hours without trouble.:D

Panasonic has the IR pixel shift technology, plus they make beautiful plasmas.

I can game for hours and hours without trouble.:D

Boxcutters

It may benefit you to know that most/all tv's have the "IR Pixel Shift technology", it's called a pixel orbiter and it's pretty commonplace.

[QUOTE="Dirk13"]

[QUOTE="dru26"]Plasmas are nearly phased out, so while you can get one cheaper, the technology is near dead. LCDs are going to be the industry norm, until OLEDs are more readily available, and a heck of a lot less expensive.dru26

Unless you actually know what you're talking about, i'd make it clear this is your opinion and not a fact.

Plasmas are being pushed into a niche market, but they are still the better display, and thats what is keeping them around, and likely will until OLED phases both of them out (if it doesnt end up bombing).

Suffice it to say until LCD's can address some key issues ineherent in their technology, they wont be the norm for anyone who wants the best display.

You shouldnt base your oppinions on the basis of one magazines article. They can be bias and as such you need to read from as many sources as you can. Ther are plenty of places championing plasma technology.

Holy crap I dont know what to get.....

From what ive seen. I like the picture of a 42" Panasonic TV..its $1400 Australian dollars...

I game for about 6 hours once a week, then about 3 hours a couple more times a week,

so thats not enough to cause any burn in problems on a plasma right?

simo98088

Bought a 42" Pannasonic Plasma yesterday.. Beautiful picture, will be hittin up some GTA 4 on it abit later tonight.. Thanks for your opinions, helped alot..simo98088

Which model did you get? let us know how it works out. From the sound of it you dont intend on breaking it in all first, so do let us know how it performs and if you see any IR when you're done playing.

If you are handy at a camera try and take pictures of it even and post them.

Bought a 42" Pannasonic Plasma yesterday.. Beautiful picture, will be hittin up some GTA 4 on it abit later tonight.. Thanks for your opinions, helped alot..simo98088

Panasonics rule. GREAT CHOICE!

Please just listen to the other owners of panasonics and get your set calibrated for video.

You can rent a dvd to do that or copy other peoples settings like I did from AVSforums.com

Leave the IR protection setting on AUTO!

Please listen to the advice here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1000259

I decided not to play any games on it yet, havent really used it at all yet, been busy workin all weekend,

Yeah im gunna ease it in, I'll try and post a pic towards the end of week,

Its the Panasonic Viera Plasma, 80 series I think it is...Its got 3 HD ports, one in the front as well as a SD card clot..

Hopefully I dont get any replies saying...man you bought a crap TV...haha..

[QUOTE="simo98088"]Bought a 42" Pannasonic Plasma yesterday.. Beautiful picture, will be hittin up some GTA 4 on it abit later tonight.. Thanks for your opinions, helped alot..Boxcutters

Panasonics rule. GREAT CHOICE!

Please just listen to the other owners of panasonics and get your set calibrated for video.

You can rent a dvd to do that or copy other peoples settings like I did from AVSforums.com

Leave the IR protection setting on AUTO!

Please listen to the advice here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1000259

I will look into calibrating it...

When you mean rent a dvd to do it...are there specific DVD's which calibrate the TV for you?

Do I need to do it, on the specific model TV that I have?

If you want to get a big screen (say anything above "50) and are on a budget, get A DLP pisplay, particularly a Samsung brand, but if you are willing to spend more, you may as well get a Plasma (Say a "60 inch Pioneer Kuro), or better yet, get a Front Projector and get a "100 inch screen. Some projectors are comparable to the best TVs (even the Samsung DLPs and Pioneer kuro plasmas), so I reccomend the Epson home powerlite1080 UB or a JVC 1080P projector.rctyke

actually pioneer is coming out with a projector.

TH42PX80A is the model.simo98088

I have the same model.It's one the best plasmas on the market, look on the web lot's of outstanding reviews.

It's called Digital Video Essentials. It's good for any TV. I found it a netflix.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray/dp/B000V6LST0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1214249620&sr=8-2

or

YOu can read

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1000259

Lot's of help and firendly advice of owners of the same great plasma TV.

and you can copy other peoples settings like I did on the link. Should be within the first 3-4 pages.

Trust me your TV will look much better and colorful then it already is when you have the right video settigs.

Alright, thanks for the advice ppl...Ill check that forum out...

Tv is going great...its so dam good having a decent tv...

I only played GTA on teh xbox 360 for about 10 mins...it was freakin awesome on the plasma...

It added alot more intenisty playing on a big screen..

[QUOTE="rctyke"]If you want to get a big screen (say anything above "50) and are on a budget, get A DLP pisplay, particularly a Samsung brand, but if you are willing to spend more, you may as well get a Plasma (Say a "60 inch Pioneer Kuro), or better yet, get a Front Projector and get a "100 inch screen. Some projectors are comparable to the best TVs (even the Samsung DLPs and Pioneer kuro plasmas), so I reccomend the Epson home powerlite1080 UB or a JVC 1080P projector.firebreathing

actually pioneer is coming out with a projector.

As much as I wish for a 100 inch KURO picture (as I wish I had a Pioneer plasma), I am concerned that this is just a JVC projector with a Pioneer elite logo. If you seen a picture of it, it looks just exactly like a JVC with an elite logo, I am just curious (and hoping) if they incorporated their own technology to present the picture as good (or better) quality as their plasmas. Also try to improve the color accuracy over the JVC projector.

Tv is going great...its so dam good having a decent tv...

I only played GTA on teh xbox 360 for about 10 mins...it was freakin awesome on the plasma...

It added alot more intenisty playing on a big screen..

simo98088

Yeah, I love my panasonic too. :D

[QUOTE="simo98088"]

Tv is going great...its so dam good having a decent tv...

I only played GTA on teh xbox 360 for about 10 mins...it was freakin awesome on the plasma...

It added alot more intenisty playing on a big screen..

Boxcutters

Yeah, I love my panasonic too. :D

I just bought this bad boy over the weekend. I am insanely happy with it.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-viera-th-50pz800u/4505-6482_7-32886472.html

Plasmas are great for Movies and such...not something I would game on (personal Preference) Although Its twice as expensive, I'd rather have a Samsung 650 series LCD than a panasonic plasma. Its a pretty stunning TV no joke.anti-xbox

exactly what kind of plasma tvs have you been looking at??? Go to bestbuy.com and look up samsung lcds and plasmas and youll see that lcd is more expensive.