Hey everyone, I had a question for mainly people who have played both Lotro and WoW. I've been playing Lord of the Rings Online for a year now but recently WoW has been getting my attention. For the WoW players out there, and for people who have played both, I was wondering if I could have a brief overall opinion on WoW such as difficulty finding people to do group quests with, crafting system, etc. It seems that Lotro has the same type of combat mechanics going on but I'm feeling the combat feels slow and sort of "bogged down" and boring compared to WoW. I enjoyed Lotro at the beginning but after watching videos and talking to some people about WoW, I keep getting more interested in it. I was wondering how WoW compares to Lotro in in terms of :

Population, World (scenery, size of cities/towns), Economy, Finding People to group with, PVP, Story/Lore.

Also what kind of other things are there to do in the game world? For an example in Lotro, they have the music system, Deeds(completing certain tasks that allow you to gain titles for your character, and traits(stat bonuses)), fishing, collecting trophies from "boss" creatures that you can mount in your house, and leveling legendary weapons.

Now I'm not looking for an argument or bash fest between the two games, or the typical "WoW will ruin your life!" response, but just input on the difference of the games to help me decide if I should switch over to WoW.

Thanks!

yes, leave lotro for WoW, play horder to avoid ""MOST"" of the 12 year olds

Leave MMOs for good.

Go play Dragon Age and leave both LOTRO and WOW...let them die, plz.

I would say stay with LOTRO till the new WoW expansion comes out but then again I think you might want to travel Azeroth as it is now, before it is destryed in Cataclysm.

Leave LOTRO for Torchlight :P

Leave them both. Wait for Guild Wars 2.

Stay with LOTRO it's a solid MMO and growing. I am on the Brandywine server though which is really populated.

If you like infinite gear grinds and time-sinks with no story masquerading as bad games filled with subhuman neanderthals then, by all means, leave LotrO for WoW or as I like to call it, the most over-rated game in history.

If you are simply tired or LotRO try EQ2 which is similar to WoW sans the emo children and with a lot more depth.

yes, leave lotro for WoW, play horder to avoid ""MOST"" of the 12 year olds

ag3ntz3rox0x

If you like infinite gear grinds and time-sinks with no story masquerading as bad games filled with subhuman neanderthals then, by all means, leave LotrO for WoW or as I like to call it, the most over-rated game in history.

If you are simply tired or LotRO try EQ2 which is similar to WoW sans the emo children and with a lot more depth.

Stay away from WoW it will eat your soul!

some games are just too addicting....

In my opinion, MMOs live and die or skate by on mediocrity based on one thing...community.

LOTRO community is relatively small and, from my experience, insular. People are in guilds and they tend to keep to themselves, without branching out or socializing outside. Its a good game, but the lack of a solid community hinders it.

WoW on the other hand has a ginormous community. Sure, with this large size comes a larger amount of immature players, but you cannot deny the sheer amount of friendly, fun, and generally enjoyable players to be around.

So yes, I think you should leave LOTRO for WoW. Maybe not yet, but when WoW: Cataclysm comes out I suggest you go out and buy the original WoW and expansions. Everyone will be making new characters, and it would be a good time to get in on the action.

Thanks for all of the responses. I agree with the people who are saying the combat and gameplay is bland. I enjoyed it at first, because Lotro was the first MMO I had played, but then after seeing WoW, the gameplay and Raids look so much more interesting and fun. As for the graphics of WoW, I think they look great still ----->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMfr7gEQZbQ

And I am on the Branywine server for Lotro, most populated server, and it is still hard to find a group who is doing the same quests. I am level 59 and still have a ton of quests from level 30-50 that I didn't get to experience, including a lot of Raids. There have also been stories on a lot of game/mmo game sites that are saying Lotro might go down the free to play road, just like Turbines other game Dungeons and Dragons online. Which will probably mean less support for the game and less expansions.

In my opinion, MMOs live and die or skate by on mediocrity based on one thing...community.

LOTRO community is relatively small and, from my experience, insular. People are in guilds and they tend to keep to themselves, without branching out or socializing outside. Its a good game, but the lack of a solid community hinders it.

WoW on the other hand has a ginormous community. Sure, with this large size comes a larger amount of immature players, but you cannot deny the sheer amount of friendly, fun, and generally enjoyable players to be around.

So yes, I think you should leave LOTRO for WoW. Maybe not yet, but when WoW: Cataclysm comes out I suggest you go out and buy the original WoW and expansions. Everyone will be making new characters, and it would be a good time to get in on the action.

mrbojangles25

No offense but a lot of that makes no sense. Who cares how big the "community" is when a sever can only hold a finite amount of people? The servers in WoW hold no more players than LotRO or WAR or AION or EQ2, etc. WoW could have 80 billion subscribers and it would be irrelevant to anyone's game experience because a server, regardless of the game, still only has the capacity to accommodate a few thousand players.

The game-play argument simply comes down to a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't consider running the same raid instance over and over and over game-play or content but some people do. I also thought the combat in both games was the same slow and montenous MMORPG combat that we've come to expect. The combat in neither game comes to close to the combat in a MMORPG like City of Heroes or even Champions Online.

So, for the most part, other than the mind-numbing raids and almost fetish like obsession with gear in WoW, both games are pretty similar. LotRO has a MUCH better story and it is integrated into the game very nicely. I played WoW up to level 80 and I couldn't tell you if there was a story or not. The quests in both games are pretty much the same generic Fed-Ex quests, although the "collection quests" are much better done and not nearly as grinding in LotRO as they are in WoW.

Honestly, I have to laugh when people praise WoW like it's something new, unique or different. Sorry, but it ain't. The only thing new about WoW is the amount of ridiculous hype generated for yet another generic fantasy MMORPG with an unbelievable amount of grind.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

In my opinion, MMOs live and die or skate by on mediocrity based on one thing...community.

LOTRO community is relatively small and, from my experience, insular. People are in guilds and they tend to keep to themselves, without branching out or socializing outside. Its a good game, but the lack of a solid community hinders it.

WoW on the other hand has a ginormous community. Sure, with this large size comes a larger amount of immature players, but you cannot deny the sheer amount of friendly, fun, and generally enjoyable players to be around.

So yes, I think you should leave LOTRO for WoW. Maybe not yet, but when WoW: Cataclysm comes out I suggest you go out and buy the original WoW and expansions. Everyone will be making new characters, and it would be a good time to get in on the action.

-wildflower-

No offense but a lot of that makes no sense. Who cares how big the "community" is when a sever can only hold a finite amount of people? The servers in WoW hold no more players than LotRO or WAR or AION or EQ2, etc. WoW could have 80 billion subscribers and it would be irrelevant to anyone's game experience because a server, regardless of the game, still only has the capacity to accommodate a few thousand players.

The game-play argument simply comes down to a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't consider running the same raid instance over and over and over game-play or content but some people do. I also thought the combat in both games was the same slow and montenous MMORPG combat that we've come to expect. The combat in neither game comes to close to the combat in a MMORPG like City of Heroes or even Champions Online.

So, for the most part, other than the mind-numbing raids and almost fetish like obsession with gear in WoW, both games are pretty similar. LotRO has a MUCH better story and it is integrated into the game very nicely. I played WoW up to level 80 and I couldn't tell you if there was a story or not. The quests in both games are pretty much the same generic Fed-Ex quests, although the "collection quests" are much better done and not nearly as grinding in LotRO as they are in WoW.

Honestly, I have to laugh when people praise WoW like it's something new, unique or different. Sorry, but it ain't. The only thing new about WoW is the amount of ridiculous hype generated for yet another generic fantasy MMORPG with an unbelievable amount of grind.

* i played EQ for years b4 WoW and that was never any problem

* glitchspot woot!

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

In my opinion, MMOs live and die or skate by on mediocrity based on one thing...community.

LOTRO community is relatively small and, from my experience, insular. People are in guilds and they tend to keep to themselves, without branching out or socializing outside. Its a good game, but the lack of a solid community hinders it.

WoW on the other hand has a ginormous community. Sure, with this large size comes a larger amount of immature players, but you cannot deny the sheer amount of friendly, fun, and generally enjoyable players to be around.

So yes, I think you should leave LOTRO for WoW. Maybe not yet, but when WoW: Cataclysm comes out I suggest you go out and buy the original WoW and expansions. Everyone will be making new characters, and it would be a good time to get in on the action.

-wildflower-

No offense but a lot of that makes no sense. Who cares how big the "community" is when a sever can only hold a finite amount of people? The servers in WoW hold no more players than LotRO or WAR or AION or EQ2, etc. WoW could have 80 billion subscribers and it would be irrelevant to anyone's game experience because a server, regardless of the game, still only has the capacity to accommodate a few thousand players.

The game-play argument simply comes down to a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't consider running the same raid instance over and over and over game-play or content but some people do. I also thought the combat in both games was the same slow and montenous MMORPG combat that we've come to expect. The combat in neither game comes to close to the combat in a MMORPG like City of Heroes or even Champions Online.

So, for the most part, other than the mind-numbing raids and almost fetish like obsession with gear in WoW, both games are pretty similar. LotRO has a MUCH better story and it is integrated into the game very nicely. I played WoW up to level 80 and I couldn't tell you if there was a story or not. The quests in both games are pretty much the same generic Fed-Ex quests, although the "collection quests" are much better done and not nearly as grinding in LotRO as they are in WoW.

Honestly, I have to laugh when people praise WoW like it's something new, unique or different. Sorry, but it ain't. The only thing new about WoW is the amount of ridiculous hype generated for yet another generic fantasy MMORPG with an unbelievable amount of grind.

so sorry man, but there are like 40 or whatever WoW servers, and the least populated one has about ten times as many players as the most populated LOTRO server.

Ive played on the Brandywine server (the most popular), its a relative ghost town in comparison.

And that is besides the point, only half of my argument pertains to population.

The other half refers to community. People in WoW are generally friendly, casual gamers. Yes, there are diehard raiding guilds run by little German boys screaming "50 DKP minus!" (***swearing*** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04) , but the bulk of gamers are casual, friendly folks that just want to go on, socialize, joke, and do some questing and dungeons.

So, as I said, population counts for something (whats the point of an MMO without a large group of people to play and socialize with) but the community matters, and WoW has a really good, friendly, inviting community.

WoW changed the EQ model of grinding mobs to one of grinding quests. Wow, what a HUGE difference and change for the better that was. :roll:

Personally, I'd rather go back to the days of grinding mobs than running 10 billion poorly written and generic fetch quests but that's just me.

Now to address some of the really silly stuff...

The least populated WoW server has 10 times more players than the most populated LotRO server? Really? Care to back that up with some of those fancy things we like to call facts or, at the very least, share some of whatever it is that you're smoking. The majority of WoW players are casual and friendly? You have got to be high. I have been playing MMORPGs since EQ1 launched and I have NEVER met or had the displeasure of running into as many infantile jerks and pompous greedy asses as I did while I was playing WoW (I played on a RPG server too which, at least from my experiences in past MMORPGs, tend to have more mature communities than other servers).

But, for the record, I'm glad the "people" who like WoW like it because it helps keep the MMORPGs I like to play relatively pollution and drama free. :P

WoW changed the EQ model of grinding mobs to one of grinding quests. Wow, what a HUGE difference and change for the better that was. :roll:

Personally, I'd rather go back to the days of grinding mobs than running 10 billion poorly written and generic fetch quests but that's just me.

Now to address some of the really silly stuff...

The least populated WoW server has 10 times more players than the most populated LotRO server? Really? Care to back that up with some of those fancy things we like to call facts or, at the very least, share some of whatever it is that you're smoking. The majority of WoW players are casual and friendly? You have got to be high. I have been playing MMORPGs since EQ1 launched and I have NEVER met or had the displeasure of running into as many infantile jerks and pompous greedy asses as I did while I was playing WoW (I played on a RPG server too which, at least from my experiences in past MMORPGs, tend to have more mature communities than other servers).

But, for the record, I'm glad the "people" who like WoW like it because it helps keep the MMORPGs I like to play relatively pollution and drama free. :P

-wildflower-

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

WoW changed the EQ model of grinding mobs to one of grinding quests. Wow, what a HUGE difference and change for the better that was. :roll:

Personally, I'd rather go back to the days of grinding mobs than running 10 billion poorly written and generic fetch quests but that's just me.

Now to address some of the really silly stuff...

The least populated WoW server has 10 times more players than the most populated LotRO server? Really? Care to back that up with some of those fancy things we like to call facts or, at the very least, share some of whatever it is that you're smoking. The majority of WoW players are casual and friendly? You have got to be high. I have been playing MMORPGs since EQ1 launched and I have NEVER met or had the displeasure of running into as many infantile jerks and pompous greedy asses as I did while I was playing WoW (I played on a RPG server too which, at least from my experiences in past MMORPGs, tend to have more mature communities than other servers).

But, for the record, I'm glad the "people" who like WoW like it because it helps keep the MMORPGs I like to play relatively pollution and drama free. :P

zomglolcats

not to mention that, if you actually read the quests, there is a lot of good lore and writing put into it.

Sure, the kill 10 boars gets a little old, but for every pure-grind quest there is there are about two story quests with actual meaning. Some are funny, some are vengeful, some are sad...but the majority actually mean something.

I will take "grinding" of quests with meaning over grinding of random mobs any day. Its gives a little bit of purpose to playing.

Give Aion a shot...

Why do people entertain Wildflower? His posts have become a cliché of their own.

Why do people entertain Wildflower? His posts have become a cliché of their own.

-Unreal-

Edit: On second thought a blind fanboy like you isn't worth the effort

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Why do people entertain Wildflower? His posts have become a cliché of their own.

-wildflower-

Edit: On second thought a blind fanboy like you isn't worth the effort

I gave my opinion on two games that I've played (one I like the other I thought was crap) and if you can't deal with it, tough.

I gave my opinion on two games that I've played (one I like the other I thought was crap) and if you can't deal with it, tough.

-wildflower-

I'm also curious as to why you came back to WoW after showing us all how much you disliked it. You say you levelled to level 80, but you stopped playing the game a while back before WoTLK, so you must have come back to it. No idea why, and also not sure why you would play the game for 80 levels either.

It wasn't the box but the so-called game that made me want to jab sticks in my eyes and quit gaming. Sorry, I know you love it but I think it's a terrible game and an especially bad MMORPG. I feel the same way about WoW as I do about consoles and Republicans.

And, for the record, I've stayed out of all WoW threads except those asking for opinions on the game or the ones asking for direct comparisons to other games.

It wasn't the box but the so-called game that made me want to jab sticks in my eyes and quit gaming. Sorry, I know you love it but I think it's a terrible game and an especially bad MMORPG. I feel the same way about WoW as I do about consoles and Republicans.

And, for the record, I've stayed out of all WoW threads except those asking for opinions on the game or the ones asking for direct comparisons to other games.

-wildflower-

I have a friend who lives out of state and she paid for my account and the expansion pack. She'd still pay for my account if I wanted to play but I don't even like the game enough to play for free.

/shrug

I have a friend who lives out of state and she paid for my account and the expansion pack. She'd still pay for my account if I wanted to play but I don't even like the game enough to play for free.

/shrug

-wildflower-

It's the truth but I really couldn't care less what you think so...whatever...

It's the truth but I really couldn't care less what you think so...whatever...

-wildflower-

I played with my friend. I like my friend. I like my friend more than I dislike WoW. She paid so it was FREE. It really shouldn't be that difficult to understand. At any rate, I don't think this is what the forums were meant for so I'm done. Have a good night.

Wow = garbage. I played WoW for like one month. You can only do so many pointless fetch quests until your brain numbs. I found myself playing in a near-catatonic state of brain death. Yes, you can completely turn off your brain and succeed in WoW. There were people who had level 70 characters (the max at the time) who had no clue what they were doing; I asked myself how they could have gotten to level 70 and be so ridiculously bad at thinking. Aside from the boring quests and outdated engine, I did not want to be associated with that community; I finally understood why they were so mocked.

I play real RPG's like Dragon Age. And it's no surprise to me the number of WoW players complaining that it's too hard; they've not used their minds since they started playing WoW, and didn't expect a challenge.

I played with my friend. I like my friend. I like my friend more than I dislike WoW. She paid so it was FREE. It really shouldn't be that difficult to understand. At any rate, I don't think this is what the forums were meant for so I'm done. Have a good night.

-wildflower-