Let s talk some serious Crysis

is this it ? Ok, it sa 8/10 but is this what we have all been waiting for ?

I got a good enough machine to run the game between Medium and High settings, fair enought. Good fps and all that stuff. But the game did not strike me as amajor revolution of games because of many reasons.

Graphics. The graphics are great, but not out of the ordinary. That´s enough said about the graphics.

Enemy AI. Ok, before that, we got about 4 different types of enemies. Helmet wearing ones, ones that forgot to wear it, one type with a Beret and another one, so they all look the same basically. Did Chris Tucker make this game or did the developers refer to the movie Rush Hour II where he said "you asians look all the same" because to me, this was a horrible point in the game. Plus, the enemy AI is ok, not that astonishing, they try to flank you nicely, they act all scared and shoot at all directions like the dude with the big hat from Predator and his mini-gun (Jessie James), but that´s about it. So many times I shoot at someone and they just stand there and don´t even react. That is in HARD (Delta I can´t get my crap together, no patience for that).

Tactics. Ok, I HATE when I see in previous that you can strangle people and punch them and they fly 100feet through the air and then you walk towards machine gun emplacements getting fired at witht he Maximum Armor mode because when I do that in Crysis, I die in 2-3 seconds. So, this reminded me of C&C Renegade. Make fancy movies and then talk pansy.

Single Player campaign is I beat in 1 day, I think5 or so hours of gameplay. When I was ready to go back to the island I am greeted with a "there will be a part 2" but this time, I won´t be all hyped about it.

People, the game was good entertainment, it is good, I agree, but all this hype and this and that, that it would revolutionate pc gaming, you can count me out on that one.

Just curious about some of your opinions

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revolution ? maybe not ! best sp since HL 2 ? yes

personally, only game i think that could be a bit revolutionary is far cry 2, if they pull offh what all they hope, but to me its looks very difficult to accomplish

Graphics. The graphics are great, but not out of the ordinary. That´s enough said about the graphics.gpvalkyrie

That in itself is pretty debatable. Crysis easily has the best visuals I've ever seen in a game. And the draw distance - nothing I've ever played as even come close. Oblivion had a decent draw distance, but at times, it looked like green mush. Crysis has a spectacularly long draw distance and it looks great. Compared with a corridor shooter, it sure is out of the ordinary. Plus, how many games get vegetarian right? How many games have vegetation that has physical properties the player can affect? Not just breakable trees, but plants with fronds you can push out of your way. That may not be visuals per se, but it certainly affects how the game looks.

Enemy AI. Ok, before that, we got about 4 different types of enemies. Helmet wearing ones, ones that forgot to wear it, one type with a Beret and another one, so they all look the same basically. Did Chris Tucker make this game or did the developers refer to the movie Rush Hour II where he said "you asians look all the same" because to me, this was a horrible point in the game. Plus, the enemy AI is ok, not that astonishing, they try to flank you nicely, they act all scared and shoot at all directions like the dude with the big hat from Predator and his mini-gun (Jessie James), but that´s about it. So many times I shoot at someone and they just stand there and don´t even react.gpvalkyrie

You forgot to mention one of the coolest things about the AI. It remembers things. It has a sort of a RPG-style hate list, and it queues things up in order of importance, then runs down its list. If the AI catches a glimpse of you, but you react quickly and lob a grenade, the AI will go and check out the explosion, but after that it will come back and check out the stuff it was originally interested in. I have never seen an AI do that, and it impresses the hell out of me. Especiallyif your particular playstyle revolves around distractions - playing against a large group of AIs, everything just synergises really well and I would say the Crysis AI is, pound for pound, the best FPS AI out there right now. As for appearances, I don't care too much. A game with 50 character models will make me go oh cool when I get up close, while a game with 5 character models will make me go ehh, lazy - but in the end, it won't affect my enjoyment of the game. It's not a distinction between good and bad, as far as I'm concerned.

Tactics. Ok, I HATE when I see in previous that you can strangle people and punch them and they fly 100feet through the air and then you walk towards machine gun emplacements getting fired at witht he Maximum Armor mode because when I do that in Crysis, I die in 2-3 seconds. So, this reminded me of C&C Renegade. Make fancy movies and then talk pansy.gpvalkyrie

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here, but I think you're trying to say that they exaggerated the effectiveness of things in videos. Personally, I don't care. I think it's all extremely well balanced in the game. Playing on hard, I got the impression that I was an elite solider, a member of a covert spearhead, and that the only reason I could do the things I could do was because I was wearing some fifty-billion-dollar trousers. I think that's just great. I felt like an elite soldier, not like superman. I didn't feel like a one man army, either. I felt like a commando who used advanced technology to survive. I haven't tried it (if it's even possible), but I think if the nanosuit could be disabled, every fight would end in almost immediate death. It may be something of a computer game contrivance, since we still are a superman, but it's handled in a realistic context - which just feels good to me.

Single Player campaign is I beat in 1 day, I think5 or so hours of gameplay. When I was ready to go back to the island I am greeted with a "there will be a part 2" but this time, I won´t be all hyped about it.gpvalkyrie

That's the thing with sandbox games. They're as good as you make them, they're as long as you make them - within reason. If you finished it in five hours, you must've skipped a lot of fights, and when you did fight, you go in all guns blazing. I played the game as a stealth game, slow paced - I hunted, I stalked, I assassinated. It took me nine hours. What you did is the equivalent of playing GTA, but only driving at the speed limit, not breaking any laws and only using cars you legally purchased, then calling the game boring.

People, the game was good entertainment, it is good, I agree, but all this hype and this and that, that it would revolutionate pc gaming, you can count me out on that one.

gpvalkyrie

I think Crysis is a great game that definitely gives future developers something to aim for right across the board, but I think revolutionise is hyperbole. Crysis hasn't really changed anything - improved, sure, but not changed. It's not the be-all end-all of PC gaming, it's not the second coming, it's not the male multiple orgasm. It's just a really good game, and I do think you yourself limited how good the game is for you, by how you chose to play the game. The tools are there, you just gotta use them.

I don't understand the topic of this thread. After Riddick and Far Cry three years ago, and now S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Crysis, the rest of the fps now seem dull to me.

IMO, more even than the irrelevant nano-suit features, the weapon customization and free roaming are the pillars around the first person shooters must evolve in the next years. Been able to choice between silent gameplay, long range sniping or frontal close combat confrontations, using vehicles or not; been able to choose between iron sights, reflex sights, scopes or laser pointers; been able to choose your firing rate between full automatic, controlled burst or precise selective shots; been able to customize your add-ons in the form of grenade launchers, differente types of ammunition and granades, and items... This is the way in that the fps must progress. The games must be modular, not heavily restricted. What fps in the market in the las three years reaches the Crysis core gameplay? The F.E.A.R. expansions? The Half-Life 2 episodes? The latest Medal Of Honor iterations from Infinite Respawn? No one... Except in the multiplayer.

The mp of Battlefield 2/2142, Quake Wars and COD 4 is better than the one from Crysis, because the ingame mechanics are more sophisticated and with less restrains; because let us to customize more deeply our character and our core gameplay, giving us the option to adapt our fighter and fighting gamestyle to the battlefield, not forcing us to be a default soldier. For this reason the mp in COD 4 is good: gives you options, and for the same reason the COD 4 sp campaign svcks and the one from Crysis is awesome, and in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is also amazing.

So, seriously talking, I can accept that Crysis could be a game of 8/10, which puts esailly the rest of the fps into a 7 or lower stance -except ArmA, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. or so-.

Tactics. Ok, I HATE when I see in previous that you can strangle people and punch them and they fly 100feet through the air and then you walk towards machine gun emplacements getting fired at witht he Maximum Armor mode because when I do that in Crysis, I die in 2-3 seconds. So, this reminded me of C&C Renegade. Make fancy movies and then talk pansy.

gpvalkyrie

It's "Maximum armor" not invincibility.

How many games have vegetation that has physical properties the player can affect? Not just breakable trees, but plants with fronds you can push out of your way.

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I was thinking about Crysis when I was playing Hitman Code 47 the other day... it has plants that move with the character (Drug Dealer Mission). Probably not as detailed since it is running on a pentium M and integrated graphics card 64mb, but it still shows that Crysis isn't the revolutionary in that aspect.