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#1 cliff122316
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hi everyone, so i am a long time windows user contemplating the switch to linux. i am going to college next year to study computer science. so i am thinking i will either transfer to linux entirely or at least dualboot on the laptop i will be getting.

my question for linux users is how user friendly is it really? how quickly will i pick it up? are there real benefits to using it for programming? basically describe your experiences with it. thank you

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#2 R3talinat0r
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I've always had positive experiences with any Unix platform I use. Whether it was Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat, Slackware, etc. The learning curve isn't that substantial, its a matter of whether or not you are willing to take the time to figure it out. Unix platforms as of late, especially something like Ubuntu/Fedora, have made integrating things such as wireless Windows drivers and adding programs (without terminal use) a synch and besides that, there is much more for someone like yourself to touch on. There are a substantial amount of tools that can be used for programming, web development, server administration, etc. and they are relatively simple to install. I used a dual boot of XP and Fedora/Ubuntu/Slackware (depending on what year) during College and I never felt myself slipping behind my classmates because of my choice. Understanding the basics of any Unix OS prior to entering the workforce is very valuable. It will give you a stepping stone for future learning once you are out of school and open up your job opportunities substantially.

Oh, and get to know the terminal well, it will become your best friend verrrry quickly :P

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#3 hajimejoe
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well i dont know if you could call it easy,but i think its worth it.and as far as for programming,once youre familiar with the command line,programming using a simple text editor and compiling on the commend line can be alot more intuitive than an ide(if you ask me-visual studio makes me dizzy).if youre familiar with dos,just think of it like that and then add on the linux/unix-specific differences,like the x window system and basic underlying technologies such as th filesystems and such.if you try to make comparisons to the ui of linux vs windows youll get lost easier.basically just take the time to relearn everything,and be happy when you dont have to so much.i switched over a few years ago,but only this year switched permanently,mainly because i was still interested in gaming,but even that has improved so.
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#4 Velocitas8
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my question for linux users is how user friendly is it really?cliff122316

Depends on the distro. Ubuntu is one distro that focuses on user-friendliness..it's very easy to install, has a nice, simple package manager and a pre-configured desktop environment.

how quickly will i pick it up?cliff122316

Well, if you just stick with something like Ubuntu..not very quickly. If you're interested in actually *learning* how Linux works, you'll want another distro. What I would recommend is first getting your feet wet with Ubuntu..install it and get familiar with some of the applications (especially the package manager), then maybe play around with the terminal enough that you can get to understand how to navigate in the command-line interface, and so that you know how to do basic file manipulation. Once you've done that, I'd suggest taking the plunge in to something like Arch Linux (my personal favorite distro.) Arch is probably the absolute best learning distro, good for beginner and advanced users alike, as it allows you to set up and customize every major component of your operating system. It's alot easier than it sounds though, as there's detailed documentation on the Wiki to assist you, and you'll learn a great deal in the process.

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#5 felixworks
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It really depends on how into the whole Linux-thing you are. You could easily go with one of the more user-friendly distros like Ubuntu or Fedora and have a great experience. Or if you like to tinker with computers and have a knack for it, you could go for Slackware or one of the other less "polished" distros. As for programming, there's no doubt; Linux is much better for programming than Windows or Mac. Your computer science classes might focus on Windows programming but it definitely can't hurt to know about Linux. In fact it will probably help. Either way, you should try out linux; if you don't like it, just get rid of it.
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#6 cliff122316
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thanks guys. it all sounds good, since i am the kind of person who finds exploring an OS enjoyable.i think i am going to install ubuntu (or possibly kubuntu. recommendations either way anyone?) first in a dual boot on the computer i use now. once i get comfortable with that i will probably make the change to another distro like the one velocitas recommended. i see it as always being a dual boot really. no reason not to have them both handy right.
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#7 hajimejoe
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[QUOTE="cliff122316"]my question for linux users is how user friendly is it really?Velocitas8

Depends on the distro. Ubuntu is one distro that focuses on user-friendliness..it's very easy to install, has a nice, simple package manager and a pre-configured desktop environment.

how quickly will i pick it up?cliff122316

Well, if you just stick with something like Ubuntu..not very quickly. If you're interested in actually *learning* how Linux works, you'll want another distro. What I would recommend is first getting your feet wet with Ubuntu..install it and get familiar with some of the applications (especially the package manager), then maybe play around with the terminal enough that you can get to understand how to navigate in the command-line interface, and so that you know how to do basic file manipulation. Once you've done that, I'd suggest taking the plunge in to something like Arch Linux (my personal favorite distro.) Arch is probably the absolute best learning distro, good for beginner and advanced users alike, as it allows you to set up and customize every major component of your operating system. It's alot easier than it sounds though, as there's detailed documentation on the Wiki to assist you, and you'll learn a great deal in the process.

you may be swaying a rather devoted debian user in the favor of arch leenux my compadre...i shall implore the wiki to educate me of eets swayagenesses things lol!
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#8 hajimejoe
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thanks guys. it all sounds good, since i am the kind of person who finds exploring an OS enjoyable.i think i am going to install ubuntu (or possibly kubuntu. recommendations either way anyone?) first in a dual boot on the computer i use now. once i get comfortable with that i will probably make the change to another distro like the one velocitas recommended. i see it as always being a dual boot really. no reason not to have them both handy right.cliff122316
i would recommend xubuntu actually if you dont want the mainstreamness of gnome or kde.it uses Xfce which i prefer,although its not as fancy as either.
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#9 cliff122316
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[QUOTE="cliff122316"]thanks guys. it all sounds good, since i am the kind of person who finds exploring an OS enjoyable.i think i am going to install ubuntu (or possibly kubuntu. recommendations either way anyone?) first in a dual boot on the computer i use now. once i get comfortable with that i will probably make the change to another distro like the one velocitas recommended. i see it as always being a dual boot really. no reason not to have them both handy right.hajimejoe
i would recommend xubuntu actually if you dont want the mainstreamness of gnome or kde.it uses Xfce which i prefer,although its not as fancy as either.

would you mind explaining why you would choose xubuntu over the others? is it more customizable?
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#10 Velocitas8
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thanks guys. it all sounds good, since i am the kind of person who finds exploring an OS enjoyable.i think i am going to install ubuntu (or possibly kubuntu. recommendations either way anyone?) first in a dual boot on the computer i use now. once i get comfortable with that i will probably make the change to another distro like the one velocitas recommended. i see it as always being a dual boot really. no reason not to have them both handy right.cliff122316

Yeah, there's no reason to not dual-boot, and I prefer to have Windows handy. For the most part, Linux has awesome open-source applications for just about everything. There's a couple areas where Linux applications are a bit lacking imo, though..mainly in the way of disc-authoring software, as well as a decent Office suite (I personally dislike OpenOffice)

Also..I wouldn't recommend bothering with KDE unless it's in the form of KDEmod (an awesome trimmed-down and modded version of KDE customized for Arch.) I'd go for Ubuntu or Xubuntu personally, but that is, of course, completely up to you :P

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#11 hajimejoe
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well xubuntu is effectively the same as you can install it from regular ubuntu,or vice-versa(install gnome ubuntu from xubuntu),but i prefer xfce to gnome as it is a bit less demanding therfore it a bit more responsive,and i prefer its simplicity.although if your computer is powerful,you may want to stick with ubuntu,as they(ubuntu devs)focus on gnome more,and alot its apps.maybe have a look at some youtube videos of KDE Gnome and Xfce and see if theres anything in particular you like.but yeah the only difference is the desktop environment effectively.i got used to gnome,but i found out xfce fit my needs better,so i wish i had tried it sooner.
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Before you switch completly to linux i would advise you to get your hands on some live cd distributions of linux and try it on. If you still like it and you would like to keep windows do the dualboot. But if you don't need windows for anything like games or other stuff windows related, go for HDD complete linux installation. I would suggest that you find a older comp and full install linux on it, believe me it will work better then newer computers.

I sugesst that you try:(from my personal experience)

mandriva

puppy linux

dsl

(and from others sugesstions):

ubuntu