Logitech z523 speakers any good?

I'm looking for some nice gaming speakers for less than 100 bucks.

what do you guys think about this one?

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/5861

I'm looking for some nice gaming speakers for less than 100 bucks.

what do you guys think about this one?

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/5861

phpessotti

[QUOTE="phpessotti"]

I'm looking for some nice gaming speakers for less than 100 bucks.

what do you guys think about this one?

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/5861

blurguy6

Don't buy cheap speakers from Logitech. The only quality audio stuff thet make is the high end stuff $300+

Don't buy cheap speakers from Logitech. The only quality audio stuff thet make is the high end stuff $300+

Blue-Sky

hell man if only i had 300+, but I only got 100 and no speakers...I can live with out the cutting edge of technology

Don't buy cheap speakers from Logitech. The only quality audio stuff thet make is the high end stuff $300+

Blue-Sky

never knew 84 dollars was cheap these days :roll:

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Don't buy cheap speakers from Logitech. The only quality audio stuff thet make is the high end stuff $300+

Nethemis

never knew 84 dollars was cheap these days :roll:

ok well i'm cheap then haha. What do you guys reccomend for a 100 budget?

ok well i'm cheap then haha. What do you guys reccomend for a 100 budget?

phpessotti

This T-amp for $44.80and these speakers for $34.50.

That will be the best you'll get (brand new) for starters.

Later you can add a subwoofer like this 8 inchor this 10 inch to the above setup for more bass extension.

Or you can check craigslist for old (but still good) used audio gear. For instance, my current speaker and amp set up cost around $800 new, but I was able to get all the stuff off Craigslist used for under $100.

[QUOTE="phpessotti"]

ok well i'm cheap then haha. What do you guys reccomend for a 100 budget?

tequilasunriser

This T-amp for $44.80and these speakers for $34.50.

That will be the best you'll get (brand new) for starters.

Later you can add a subwoofer like this 8 inchor this 10 inch to the above setup for more bass extension.

Or you can check craigslist for old (but still good) used audio gear. For instance, my current speaker and amp set up cost around $800 new, but I was able to get all the stuff off Craigslist used for under $100.

The speakers should give you plenty room to extend with a active subwoofer if you don't feel happy with the bass range you'll get out of those.

This is in another level of detail compared to most PC made speaker sets. $100 is really to little to buy active monitors, but a good hifi set as this will do fine if your no audiophile.

Those speakers wont give you any level of bass which is not good for gaming and movies. Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me, what are you going to do with all that detail without bass? Accurate audio \\=\\ better audio.

Logitech gives you the best bass in the price range and the highs are very detailed as well on their high end models, only the mids lack but then again you dont get something perfect on a budget.

With that said I wouldnt recommend the z523, I thought about buying them myself and my research showed me that they are not really worth the price tag.

You really should increase your budget to $150 and look into the M-Audio Studiophile AV-40 or the logitech Z-2300. The former will have better sound quality but the latter will have earth shattering bass so it is upto you what you prefer.

[QUOTE="blurguy6"][QUOTE="phpessotti"]

I'm looking for some nice gaming speakers for less than 100 bucks.

what do you guys think about this one?

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/5861

tequilasunriser

Those speakers wont give you any level of bass which is not good for gaming and movies. Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me, what are you going to do with all that detail without bass? Accurate audio \\=\\ better audio. Logitech gives you the best bass in the price range and the highs are very detailed as well on their high end models, only the mids lack but then again you dont get something perfect on a budget. With that said I wouldnt recommend the z523, I thought about buying them myself and my research showed me that they are not really worth the price tag. You really should increase your budget to $150 and look into the M-Audio Studiophile AV-40 or the logitech Z-2300. The former will have better sound quality but the latter will have earth shattering bass so it is upto you what you prefer. Gambler_3

Lol...

Somebody is bitter that they have some s*** tier audio gear. ;)

OP, don't listen to this tool. I've had the Logitech z 2300. Yeah, they have bass, if you like muddy, boomy, inaccurate crap-bass. It's so abundant that you feel enveloped in a cushion of hazy sub frequencies that becomes increasingly annoying. If you live in a home with others they WILL be pissed at you. If you try to watch a movie the lower frequencies completely dominate the sound field and you'll have trouble hearing the dialogue.

In case you've never had the (dis)pleasure of seeing Gambler's posts, he hates just about everything he doesn't have, and only likes what he does have. He also puts words in peoples mouths. Statements such as, " Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me," which are completely fabricated. I never said bass doesn't matter. Read my post again maybe? I made it pretty clear that a powered sub can be added later.

He is the Bill O'Reilly of the gamespot forums. He has nothing relevant to say, fabricates arguments, ignores what others say despite how good the advice may be so that he may further his agenda of stupidity.

In a nut shell everything he has ever posted could be condensed into the following statements:

"nVidia is the BEST; cuda cores, physX, herp derp"

"Intel is always better, even when their performance was down in the P4 and PD era and their prices were high they were still the best."

"IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS"

"I can't afford speakers better than Logitech therefore they are the best"

"What do you mean my Bose headphones aren't the best? *plugs ears* lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalala "

Just when I thought you might be getting better, Gambler, you proved me wrong.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="blurguy6"] I have them, had no problems with them so far awesome in BC2 with war tapes on the only small gripe I have about them is that the sound that comes out of them sound "muddy". But I probably need a sound card to fix that but other than that they are greatGambler_3

I have frequently recommended AMD cards. I have very clearly said that my logitech speakers are actually quite mediocre but there is just no other option for surround which is a fact. I have also stated my reasons for having bose headphones and never said they are better than other brands, only that they are very good without conisdering the price/performance.

I even recommended him the AV-40 which you conveniently ignored, if you would have seen my thread in the audio/video forum you would have seen that my next speakers would be the AV-40 as well.

You just tried to hide in your baseless generalisations the fact that the speakers you recommended dont nearly best logitech as you would like them to.

I used to be apple hater but now seeing first hand that they just know how to capture people and how to make products that people love. I would still not purchase apple but I realise it's just elitism to criticize all their products as overpriced because people clearly dont think they offer bad value or else they wouldnt be paying.

Same is the case with logitech, I would not be buying logitech speakers again but I can see why logitech sells so much and why people love their speakers.

And "muddy, boomy, inaccurate crap-bass" is in YOUR OPINION, there are many people who love that sort of bass, sound quality is subjective.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="blurguy6"] I have them, had no problems with them so far awesome in BC2 with war tapes on the only small gripe I have about them is that the sound that comes out of them sound "muddy". But I probably need a sound card to fix that but other than that they are greattequilasunriser

I have frequently recommended AMD cards. I have very clearly said that my logitech speakers are actually quite mediocre but there is just no other option for surround which is a fact. I have also stated my reasons for having bose headphones and never said they are better than other brands, only that they are very good without conisdering the price/performance.

I even recommended him the AV-40 which you conveniently ignored, if you would have seen my thread in the audio/video forum you would have seen that my next speakers would be the AV-40 as well.

You just tried to hide in your baseless generalisations the fact that the speakers you recommended dont nearly best logitech as you would like them to.

I used to be apple hater but now seeing first hand that they just know how to capture people and how to make products that people love. I would still not purchase apple but I realise it's just elitism to criticize all their products as overpriced because people clearly dont think they offer bad value or else they wouldnt be paying.

Same is the case with logitech, I would not be buying logitech speakers again but I can see why logitech sells so much and why people love their speakers.

And "muddy, boomy, inaccurate crap-bass" is in YOUR OPINION, there are many people who love that sort of bass, sound quality is subjective.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]It actually very well does. With a sound card you can adjust the cutoff frequency range which helps alot with a cheap logitech sub.

Gambler_3

anyone know what parts express charges for shipping to canada? i was interested in getting that speaker set and amp for a while. Also can i use my existing subwoofer, with this set?

anyone know what parts express charges for shipping to canada? i was interested in getting that speaker set and amp for a while. Also can i use my existing subwoofer, with this set?

blaznwiipspman1

[QUOTE="Nethemis"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Don't buy cheap speakers from Logitech. The only quality audio stuff thet make is the high end stuff $300+

KHAndAnime

never knew 84 dollars was cheap these days :roll:

I have logitech Z323 and they sound pretty good. I have a big Logitech set at home. I'm pretty sure the z523 is nice too.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Nethemis"]

never knew 84 dollars was cheap these days :roll:

yachtboy

Its mostly a dilemma of both functionality and space. Full bookshelfs are only practical if you have the adequate space to both position and fit the gear. Considering that most PC setups are situated in tight spaces, its not always possible to add on a 30+lb receiver, subwoofer, and standing bookshelves. In these cases, active near-field bookshelves will make a lot more sense than full blown home theater setups. As far as Logitech, Creative, and Altec Lansing are concerned, I agree that their version of "desktop speakers" are absolute garbage but there are many companies that offer solid PC bookshelf options.

I'm currently using the Swan M200MKIII and I really couldn't be any happier atm with my desktop setup. I'll add on a subwoofer in the future to deepen the low-end, but at the moment its doing quite fine for my needs. I've also used the KRK Rokkit RP8 G2 and found it to be excellent as well. Quality PC audio does exist, its just a matter of wading through the pool of crap filled with cruddy sattelite setups.

[QUOTE="yachtboy"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] In the realm of speakers, $84 is cheap. :PFoamybrian

Its mostly a dilemma of both functionality and space. Full bookshelfs are only practical if you have the adequate space to both position and fit the gear. Considering that most PC setups are situated in tight spaces, its not always possible to add on a 30+lb receiver, subwoofer, and standing bookshelves. In these cases, active near-field bookshelves will make a lot more sense than full blown home theater setups. As far as Logitech, Creative, and Altec Lansing are concerned, I agree that their version of "desktop speakers" are absolute garbage but there are many companies that offer solid PC bookshelf options.

I'm currently using the Swan M200MKIII and I really couldn't be any happier atm with my desktop setup. I'll add on a subwoofer in the future to deepen the low-end, but at the moment its doing quite fine for my needs. I've also used the KRK Rokkit RP8 G2 and found it to be excellent as well. Quality PC audio does exist, its just a matter of wading through the pool of crap filled with cruddy sattelite setups.

[QUOTE="Foamybrian"]

[QUOTE="yachtboy"] $84 isn't cheap for tiny computer speakers.... now if you are talking about home theater right and left channel... yeah that is cheap. I never understand why ppl go out and spend $300+ on computer speakers when they could just go the htpc route and buy solid polk audio speakers which are often on sale for $250 each and build an amazing system. My computer speakers cost $30... while my home theater subwoofer cost $250... now how often do you think I run my audio through the pc speakers and how often I use my home theater setup? Exactly...yachtboy

Its mostly a dilemma of both functionality and space. Full bookshelfs are only practical if you have the adequate space to both position and fit the gear. Considering that most PC setups are situated in tight spaces, its not always possible to add on a 30+lb receiver, subwoofer, and standing bookshelves. In these cases, active near-field bookshelves will make a lot more sense than full blown home theater setups. As far as Logitech, Creative, and Altec Lansing are concerned, I agree that their version of "desktop speakers" are absolute garbage but there are many companies that offer solid PC bookshelf options.

I'm currently using the Swan M200MKIII and I really couldn't be any happier atm with my desktop setup. I'll add on a subwoofer in the future to deepen the low-end, but at the moment its doing quite fine for my needs. I've also used the KRK Rokkit RP8 G2 and found it to be excellent as well. Quality PC audio does exist, its just a matter of wading through the pool of crap filled with cruddy sattelite setups.

Thats actually something I would recommend for most people. Headphones for gaming, speakers for music and movies. When it comes to positional audio in games, a solid pair of headphones is hard to beat and will offer the most bang for the buck. A pair of HD558s or ATH AD700s will satisfy most gamers with a low price tag. These gamers can then save up some cash for a more serious speaker setup in the $300+ range. It really is all preference though. Some people are fine with using headphones on their PC exclusively while others will want speakers. Some will also prefer to invest mainly in their HT setups for serious listening while others will not shy away from investing in desktop audio.

shame its $40 to ship to canada, i wouldve bought the daytona t-amp and speakers

Well something that seems like forgotten in this thread is how important you think music and a exsact replicate of the sound you would want?

A cheap PC made system made of crappy speakers with a oversized bass box will sound like many or even most people want/like, this is a fact!..

...I know that I dont fit in that catagory, I have spent a fortune on speakers and different HIFI parts sinse my first month salary 10 years ago, I consider myself as on the edge to a audiopilea as I have a genuine music intrest and make my own music and have played in a cuple bands, I have even worked a litlle on the side as a mixer guy in various events... I just can't stand the sound of speakers/amp not delivering a undistorted/undestroyed sound.

Under my early years I made most of my own speker box'es and have modified atleast a dussin pair, the top pair is a louther driven smach horn speaker set that I currently cant use in my appartment because of the enoumus size off the horn cabbinettes, but man when these things play they will beat out the most expencive ones witch none of us can afford.

There are 1 of 30 PC made systes that actually can provide a decent sound but some part of the sound quality is always lacking, you will have to live with muddy bass or even a weak top registre, but I have never heard a set that actually plays even remote proximity of what a T-amp is capable of.

Paired with a good speaker the T-amp is great, it has a good amount of detail but the little power it has it's suited toward the speakers with a higher DB/m as they require less power to control, the little effect in the T-amp will result in the thougher bass freq. a bit hard and unprecise when you turn the volume up.

Even with these shortcommings it plays in another level what the better PC made speaker sets can even reach, but it needs to be paired with a decent set of speakers.

When it comes to logitec witch has been discussed in this thread, they can't even remotly compete with anything else than PC made speakers, they just play in another division than HIFI made box'es, even the crappiest of HIFI speakers will give you better accuracy and better handling and probably a whole other level of undistorted sound quality, I can't say i know that YOU will notice anything else than the bass difference and that is all your own ears to judge but the quality will be better with a T-amp and a random set of speakers.

I agree on that some of these PC made systems have only one real speaker and that is the bass woofer, for people only intrested in the highest DB within the range of 50Hz-120Hz that seems like a good choise but when you try to hear every instrument in a whole symphony or determin if it's a add9 or only a add2 accord theyre playing that type of sets wont do at all.

My son has a 7.1 speaker setup that cost about $250 online and I would be the first to admit that it sounds amazing. I have a $50 Logitech Z313 2.1 setup. And for my situation, I'd rather have the $50 Logitech speakers. The biggest factor for me is how much desk space these things take up, and the small 2.1 setup is king there. But, I alsofind that Logitechs sound great for the money. My wife has apair of Best Buy Insignia brand speakers, and the Logitech sound is just on another level from those.

I haven't heard the Z253, but I every Logitech speaker I ever heard, for example the Pure-Fi Anywhere iPod speaker dock, always sound good in their price category. No they're not high-end, but I think they're the best value inbudget speakers.

This thread should have ended at tequilasunrisers comment. Shame the $58 Dayton combo deal isn't around anymore...

Oh wait, it is ;)

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-650

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Those speakers wont give you any level of bass which is not good for gaming and movies. Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me, what are you going to do with all that detail without bass? Accurate audio \\=\\ better audio. Logitech gives you the best bass in the price range and the highs are very detailed as well on their high end models, only the mids lack but then again you dont get something perfect on a budget. With that said I wouldnt recommend the z523, I thought about buying them myself and my research showed me that they are not really worth the price tag. You really should increase your budget to $150 and look into the M-Audio Studiophile AV-40 or the logitech Z-2300. The former will have better sound quality but the latter will have earth shattering bass so it is upto you what you prefer. tequilasunriser

Lol...

Somebody is bitter that they have some s*** tier audio gear. ;)

OP, don't listen to this tool. I've had the Logitech z 2300. Yeah, they have bass, if you like muddy, boomy, inaccurate crap-bass. It's so abundant that you feel enveloped in a cushion of hazy sub frequencies that becomes increasingly annoying. If you live in a home with others they WILL be pissed at you. If you try to watch a movie the lower frequencies completely dominate the sound field and you'll have trouble hearing the dialogue.

In case you've never had the (dis)pleasure of seeing Gambler's posts, he hates just about everything he doesn't have, and only likes what he does have. He also puts words in peoples mouths. Statements such as, " Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me," which are completely fabricated. I never said bass doesn't matter. Read my post again maybe? I made it pretty clear that a powered sub can be added later.

He is the Bill O'Reilly of the gamespot forums. He has nothing relevant to say, fabricates arguments, ignores what others say despite how good the advice may be so that he may further his agenda of stupidity.

In a nut shell everything he has ever posted could be condensed into the following statements:

"nVidia is the BEST; cuda cores, physX, herp derp"

"Intel is always better, even when their performance was down in the P4 and PD era and their prices were high they were still the best."

"IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS"

"I can't afford speakers better than Logitech therefore they are the best"

"What do you mean my Bose headphones aren't the best? *plugs ears* lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalala "

Just when I thought you might be getting better, Gambler, you proved me wrong.

confirmed for truth

I may not always agree with tequila, but gambler never comes to any conclusion logically.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Those speakers wont give you any level of bass which is not good for gaming and movies. Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me, what are you going to do with all that detail without bass? Accurate audio \\=\\ better audio. Logitech gives you the best bass in the price range and the highs are very detailed as well on their high end models, only the mids lack but then again you dont get something perfect on a budget. With that said I wouldnt recommend the z523, I thought about buying them myself and my research showed me that they are not really worth the price tag. You really should increase your budget to $150 and look into the M-Audio Studiophile AV-40 or the logitech Z-2300. The former will have better sound quality but the latter will have earth shattering bass so it is upto you what you prefer. GummiRaccoon

Lol...

Somebody is bitter that they have some s*** tier audio gear. ;)

OP, don't listen to this tool. I've had the Logitech z 2300. Yeah, they have bass, if you like muddy, boomy, inaccurate crap-bass. It's so abundant that you feel enveloped in a cushion of hazy sub frequencies that becomes increasingly annoying. If you live in a home with others they WILL be pissed at you. If you try to watch a movie the lower frequencies completely dominate the sound field and you'll have trouble hearing the dialogue.

In case you've never had the (dis)pleasure of seeing Gambler's posts, he hates just about everything he doesn't have, and only likes what he does have. He also puts words in peoples mouths. Statements such as, " Why the hell do wannabe audiophiles think bass doesnt matter is beyond me," which are completely fabricated. I never said bass doesn't matter. Read my post again maybe? I made it pretty clear that a powered sub can be added later.

He is the Bill O'Reilly of the gamespot forums. He has nothing relevant to say, fabricates arguments, ignores what others say despite how good the advice may be so that he may further his agenda of stupidity.

In a nut shell everything he has ever posted could be condensed into the following statements:

"nVidia is the BEST; cuda cores, physX, herp derp"

"Intel is always better, even when their performance was down in the P4 and PD era and their prices were high they were still the best."

"IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS IPS"

"I can't afford speakers better than Logitech therefore they are the best"

"What do you mean my Bose headphones aren't the best? *plugs ears* lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalalala "

Just when I thought you might be getting better, Gambler, you proved me wrong.

confirmed for truth

I may not always agree with tequila, but gambler never comes to any conclusion logically.

lol yeah, that was a hilarious post by tequila, he got gamblers personality down 100%. Anyways back to the topic, that daytona combo plus sub would cost how much to ship to canada??

Anyways back to the topic, that Dayton combo plus sub would cost how much to ship to Canada??

blaznwiipspman1

Parts Express will allow you to use to use a 3rd party to ship, so you can save some money by going with a company like UPS. Also don't forget about duties and taxes at the border.

Why go cheap when you can go Z5500 ;DMewi

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

Anyways back to the topic, that Dayton combo plus sub would cost how much to ship to Canada??

NVIDIATI

Parts Express will allow you to use to use a 3rd party to ship, so you can save some money by going with a company like UPS. Also don't forget about duties and taxes at the border.

yeah, I wanted the 10 inch dayton sub which is 35 lbs lol. Forget shipping that monster it would probably cost more to ship than its worth. I was told USPS wouldn't charge duties so i wanted to go with them, but the cost of shipping to toronto for the speaker and t amp is $68 and thats only 13 lbs. Damn I guess i'll have to come down to bufallo, spend 2 days there and do a pick up there. These speakers and subs better be the best thing since sliced bread.