lol i7 was the biggest waste...

2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

Yes, 8 cores is definitely a waste. You shouldn't need more than 4 cores for quite some time. Anyway, which i7 do you have?

Yes, 8 cores is definitely a waste. You shouldn't need more than 4 cores for quite some time. Anyway, which i7 do you have?

Animatronic64

even still a 2.67ghz i7 is not equivalent to any other cpu at the same speed or cock for clock due to extremely different architecture.take them back to a quad core by turning off HT, at the same speed it'l still trounce a previous model QX core 2 duo.

2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

istuffedsunny

Didn't you know the Pentium 4 3.4GHz is much faster then a i7 at 2.67GHz. Look at the Pentium's number its so huge.

FYI, no i7 has 8 cores.C_Rule

You have 8 logicalcores, but only 4 physicalcores. With hyper-threading you have the performance of roughly 5 or 6 cores.

2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

istuffedsunny

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]FYI, no i7 has 8 cores.SLUSHiNaToR

2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

istuffedsunny

i7's do NOT have 8 Cores.

Only 4 physical cores on the die with a standard 4 threads, when you add HT into the mix that gives you the extra 4 ''virtual'' threads for a total of 8 ''logical'' cores. Threads do not count as cores so you only count the physical ones on the die making it only a Quad Core. Windows counts each thread as a CPU, that's why you see all eight in device manager. Just like how a Core i3 is only a Dual Core but you'll see 4 CPU's in device manager due to HT.

Whether or not an i7 or any other CPU for that matter is a waste is a matter of personal preferance and what you need to get done. Gaming wise we are moving slowely but surely to more heavily muti-threaded software so having an i7 around should help immensely in the near future.

i7's are great overclockers, but of course this really depends on your mobo, RAM, cooling etc.

FYI, no i7 has 8 cores.C_Rule

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2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

DarxPhil

i7's do NOT have 8 Cores.

Only 4 physical cores on the die with a standard 4 threads, when you add HT into the mix that gives you the extra 4 ''virtual'' threads for a total of 8 ''logical'' cores. Threads do not count as cores so you only count the physical ones on the die making it only a Quad Core. Windows counts each thread as a CPU, that's why you see all eight in device manager. Just like how a Core i3 is only a Dual Core but you'll see 4 CPU's in device manager due to HT.

Whether or not an i7 or any other CPU for that matter is a waste is a matter of personal preferance and what you need to get done. Gaming wise we are moving slowely but surely to more heavily muti-threaded software so having an i7 around should help immensely in the near future.

i7's are great overclockers, but of course this really depends on your mobo, RAM, cooling etc.

Yeah only the i7 980 extreme has 6 cores and the price tag is extreme!!

The rest of the i7 have 8 threads with 4 core.

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2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

JohnF111

i7's do NOT have 8 Cores.

Only 4 physical cores on the die with a standard 4 threads, when you add HT into the mix that gives you the extra 4 ''virtual'' threads for a total of 8 ''logical'' cores. Threads do not count as cores so you only count the physical ones on the die making it only a Quad Core. Windows counts each thread as a CPU, that's why you see all eight in device manager. Just like how a Core i3 is only a Dual Core but you'll see 4 CPU's in device manager due to HT.

Whether or not an i7 or any other CPU for that matter is a waste is a matter of personal preferance and what you need to get done. Gaming wise we are moving slowely but surely to more heavily muti-threaded software so having an i7 around should help immensely in the near future.

i7's are great overclockers, but of course this really depends on your mobo, RAM, cooling etc.

No. The vast majority of i7's out there are quad-cores. There are a couple of more recent i7's that are hexacore (6 core) chips. Please do some basic research before posting something like that. Wow.

Yeah only the i7 980 extreme has 6 cores and the price tag is extreme!!

The rest of the i7 have 8 threads with 4 core.

Bikouchu35

Actually the i7-970 is out. It has 6 cores as well. They're still way too pricey for me to even think about. $879 for a CPU.. nuts. IMO anything over $300 is just insane.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115066

This thread is bad, and the OP should feel bad.

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2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

JohnF111

i7's do NOT have 8 Cores.

Only 4 physical cores on the die with a standard 4 threads, when you add HT into the mix that gives you the extra 4 ''virtual'' threads for a total of 8 ''logical'' cores. Threads do not count as cores so you only count the physical ones on the die making it only a Quad Core. Windows counts each thread as a CPU, that's why you see all eight in device manager. Just like how a Core i3 is only a Dual Core but you'll see 4 CPU's in device manager due to HT.

Whether or not an i7 or any other CPU for that matter is a waste is a matter of personal preferance and what you need to get done. Gaming wise we are moving slowely but surely to more heavily muti-threaded software so having an i7 around should help immensely in the near future.

i7's are great overclockers, but of course this really depends on your mobo, RAM, cooling etc.

What the hell are you talking about?, there are currently only two six core Intel CPU's out, the i7 970 and 980x (and the Xeon versions of those). Other then that they are all Quad Cores.

[QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"][QUOTE="C_Rule"]FYI, no i7 has 8 cores.markop2003

With Core i3/i5/i7, each Nehalem core includes two 128bit SSE ADD units.

The two threads shares SSE MUL/branch/load/store units. Most apps uses SSE ADD unit. Hyper-Threading is designed to maximize idle instruction issue slots and compute resource. Remember, this is an out-of-order CPU.

The older Core 2 includes one 128bit SSE ADD unit. Core i7 Quad has total of 8 SSE ADD units i.e. it's almost a brainer on why Intel i7 Quads smacks AMD's X6 (6 SSE ADD units). In general, AMD Phenom II performs like Intel Core 2.

Do not equate Nehalem's Hyper-Threading with Pentium IV's Hyper-Threading implementation.

AMD Bulldozer expands Nehalem 's HT concept.

This thread is bad, and the OP should feel bad.

NailedGR

2.67GHz is pathetic when people are still coding for 1-2 cores opposed to my 8. Does this thing at least OC nice and easy? I've never done it before but I'm about to start

istuffedsunny

It OCs very well. I've got my i7-920 at a stable 3.8GHz, with the voltage at 1.24v.

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Yeah only the i7 980 extreme has 6 cores and the price tag is extreme!!

The rest of the i7 have 8 threads with 4 core.

hartsickdiscipl

Actually the i7-970 is out. It has 6 cores as well. They're still way too pricey for me to even think about. $879 for a CPU.. nuts. IMO anything over $300 is just insane.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115066

the 6xx series in laptops was a dual core beleive it or not....ran at stock 2.8 i think.....toshiba had them in their qosmio's a little while back and i never noticed they were actualy HT enabled dual cores.......samsung had one to.

It OCs very well. I've got my i7-920 at a stable 3.8GHz, with the voltage at 1.24v.

BluRayHiDef

Agreed, it overclocks quite nicely. I put in a Noctua cooler at 3.8GHz just to be on the safe side, although before that I had stock cooling working quite nicely at 3.2GHz.

I just did a Google search for help and found a wealth of information on it.

Nehalem (i7) architecture is a lot more efficient than AMD's solution so an i7 @ 2.6 will perform as good as a 3Ghz'ish Phenom II X4. HT & tripple channel memory is pointless for gaming though so thats why the i5 760 is THE best gaming CPU right now.

I have a amd x6 and to be honest... I can rarely feel the difference between it and a dual core. I mean windows starts up crazy fast, it does multitask a lot better, and on games that use 4 or more cores it does do better. So that sounds all well and good and seems to confirm what we know on paper: "with a lot of programs running at once it is far better." But in reality software always has slowdowns that have nothing to do with hardware... firefox is a great example... and causes the pc to lockup for awhile. Games have coding errors that slow them down... Of course 6 cores is better than 2 or 4 but it is just sooo much over kill. Do I regret my purchase? No, because this pc has to last me for at least 3 years without a major upgrade and 5 with major upgrades... so I made sure to get the best motherboard I could find to insure upgrades.