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#1 maden2004
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Hi guys, im a pretty hardcore pc gamer. I do really well in games and im to competitive gaming. But there is something holding me back from being better i think which is my mouse. Its a wireless Logitech s510(cheap) mouse. Im playing cod 4 right now and i find hard to precise with it as much as i want. But still managining to be first in games:P Oh and i tried bought the logitech g5...used one from ebay.. and the middle mouse button was messed up.. also it wasnt good.. at all i didnt like the size of it at all. So im lookin for a mouse that is good for gaming, and is comforatble . Like the regular Dell (black mouses) fit perfect in my hand i love the size of them. Also i dont really want a wireless one because i think its not as good one as a wired one for gaming.

So please recommend me a mouse ! nothing over $80 CDN. $40 = best :P or under lolzz

thanks also link to the mouse specs would be nice as well.

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#2 3ofClubs
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I think you can try Logitech G9.

"The good for it:

Customisable weights

Highly customisable buttons

Button profiles

High accuracy

Excellent scroll functionality "

I get these from the review. you can have a look:

http://www.cnet.com.au/desktops/accessories/0,239029388,339281209,00.htm

The G9 is on sale now, a decent deal for it is only $50.

http://dealstudio.com/searchdeals.php?deal_id=73328

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#3 Vax45
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The Logitech MX512 is also nice, along with the G9.
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#4 maden2004
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bah that weight **** doesnt work really lol i have the g5 didnt notice a difference lolz
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#5 sabbath2gamer
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razer deathadder FTW
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#6 ixi311downerixi
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i used the g5 and the deathadder....now i stick w/ the deathadder
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#7 maden2004
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yeah im think about the razor looks good probably perfect for my hand also what kind mouse mat should i get ???? i dont have one right now
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#8 ktseymour
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If you have big hands the DeathAdder or the Habu (little buggy), or the new Sidewinder. The Func pads are probably the best, if you like to sprawl and like a quick reaction time get the F30.r, but you really can't go wrong with any of the Func pads.
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#9 SSJBen
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If you have the money, go for the Lachesis. AFAIK, it fits both the small hands and big hands users. The Death Adder is a little bulky though, and if you have small hands, it'll take some time getting used to the size of the mouse.
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#10 ixi311downerixi
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ive used both the ratpadz gs,xt and razer exact mat...so fa my favriot is the razor
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#11 42316
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Microsoft sidewinder perhaps??....or the Razor Lachesis, very cool mouse!!!!
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#12 maden2004
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my hands are like avg, but more ill say small , so what should i get im going to get the mouse like tomorrow cuz this mouse sucks for sniping and yeah i want a mouse that is fast
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#13 blackstar
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If you use to dell optical mice, I would definately go for razer, especially if you control the mouse using your fingers and not your palm (logitech is palm oriented).
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#14 maden2004
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**** dude.. lol i think i use my fingers to control my mouse.. acutally both **** i can't tell lol i use both.. how do you know you use palm or finnger i use both .. lol. Like im hella fast. like skilled player not bragging but i need mouse to meet my skills.okay i have my palm in my sppot i use my finger and push forward with my fingers and palm.. f**** idk what i use lol!! help!!!!
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#15 blackstar
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Well, if you whole entire palm is touching the mouse, then your palm oriented. If it is just your fingers (not just your finger tips) toouching all the way to the base of the fingers, then your contorlling the mouse with your fingers. I am using a dell mice too right now and decided to go for razer.

When your middle of gaming, check to see if your using finers or plam to control the mouse. Make is so your unconsciously doing it, and then check to see the position of your fingers and palm.
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#16 opethpwn
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Razer Deathadder is all you need....

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#17 dayaccus007
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Ideazon Black Reaper Edge
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#18 ixi311downerixi
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yea deathadder
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#19 General_X
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Well if you have some time this website has great reviews of the tracking of most of the gaming mice out today. First you need to find out if you are a high sensitivity player (you make small twitch movements that translate to large movements on screen.) Or a low sensitivity player (you make large sweeping movements for less movement on screen.) Then decide which mouse if best for you from that site.
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#20 Killfox
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I just had a topic like this and out of all the ones Ive looked at the G9 looks like the best gaming mouse period. For the money the MX518 is probably the best.
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#21 ktseymour
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That's a really good read GenralX. I read that a while back and it is the reason I bought the DeathAdder, their is a smoothness that the 3G sensor brings to the Razer mice that hasn't really been matched by any other company I know as of yet. Like the author of the article I've owned just about every mouse of note as of late and the three I've settled on are the DeathAdder,Sidewinder and the Logitech MX Revolution. I use the Revo for genral use and the other two for gaming. I'm more of a fingertip mouser my self, but I also have bigger hands, not the palm a basket type mind you but close to it.
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#22 baller4him
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personally i always prefer logitech's mice over any other.....i have big hands and they fit really well and are comfortable to me....i can play for hours and not get hand cramps or anything....i would recomment the G5 or G9, depending on what type of price range and functions you are looking for
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#23 xfactor19990
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logitech g7 FTW
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#24 PWN-Schubie
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i would say the Razer Lachesis at the moment, i have one and love it, its comforatable and very precise.

http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=72

another one that looks like it has some potential is the ROCCAT Kone, its not out till feb but if you werent buying now it may be one to keep in mind, im thinking about grabbing their keyboard when its out.

http://www.roccat.org/index.php?ROCCAT=Products&modul=9|ROCCAT+Kone

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#25 ktseymour
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i would say the Razer Lachesis at the moment, i have one and love it, its comforatable and very precise.

http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=72

another one that looks like it has some potential is the ROCCAT Kone, its not out till feb but if you werent buying now it may be one to keep in mind, im thinking about grabbing their keyboard when its out.

http://www.roccat.org/index.php?ROCCAT=Products&modul=9|ROCCAT+Kone

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PWN, you don't happen to know how the Lachesis compares to the Adder ergonomics wise do you? I want to get one but was affraid it was to much like the Diamondback. I really liked that mouse but after a couple of hours it would kill my hand
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#26 PWN-Schubie
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i have used the diamondback and the deathadder, but not for two long of either, i would say that the lachesis is probably closer in design to the deathadder then the diamonback, i have had a few lan parties since i got it, aka 12+ hours of straight gamming and havent had any hand pains, seems to be pretty comfortable for both palm and finger tips playing.

although the design does feel abit odd at first i got used to it really quick and dont think i would really change up.

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#27 ktseymour
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Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the Lachesis and the DeatAdder looked allot alike, but you can't really tell from pictures.
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#28 ktseymour
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Thanks for the reply. I was thinking the Lachesis and the DeatAdder looked allot alike, but you can't really tell from pictures.
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#29 PWN-Schubie
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no problemo, i would highly recomend the mouse, i have been using it for probably a month now, and i love it, the profile switching is great, i can use completly differant settings for differant games or desktop. for example if you like rts or rpg and macros are a must, you can set macro keys to any of the buttons, for example, for COD4 (me bring a righty) the buttons on the right that arnt used very often i have macrod to call in air stikes and UAV support. i love it :)
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#30 Lehman
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i got the SideWinder for free, and its not as bad as ppl say it is
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#31 skip2mefil
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GET THE FATAL1TY 2020 ITS APROVEN WINNER USED BY 12 TIME WORLD CHAMPION JOHNATHAN "FATAL1TY" WENDEL

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#32 PWN-Schubie
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im sure it has nothing to do with him making money on everyone sold....

also, i find it VERY uncomfortable, clucky, REALLY ugly, all around i think it is one of the worst "gaming" mice avialable.

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#33 skip2mefil
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fatal1ty has one many championships with that mouse

use what he uses to get battle tested gear approved by johnathan wendel

fatal1ty 2020 is the way to go

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#34 InSoMnIaK604
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I've been happily using the MX518 for 6 monthes or so, its a damn fine mouse.
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#35 PWN-Schubie
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dude, are you in love with him or something? or just in on the cut of each one sold? or just so n00btacular that you think if you use the gear a "pro" uses you will be better?

a n00b with a good mouse is still a n00b.

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#36 skip2mefil
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if u want a proven winner

use what fatal1ty uses

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#37 _rock_
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I use the logitech G9 and I recommend it.
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#38 Blayes
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MICE (from my blog)

note-I use a large 14" x 18" mousepad, as my desktop is glass. The pad is a black cloth covered pad-I think it's made byHandStands.

the first multibutton mouse that I got for gaming was a Logitech M-BA47. I used this early on for Quake, Unreal, then Unreal Tournament 99, etc. I can't remember much about it, but I eventually replaced it with a cordlessLogitech MX 700. Since these are legacy mice, I don't have much to say other than the comfort of the MX 700 is probably the basis for where I am now. The MX 700 was a bit heavy due to the batteries, but the overall balance felt pretty good for the weight.

Razer Copperhead

I wanted to replace the cordless mouse for a corded mouse, so I picked up a Razer Copperhead. I gave this a try for a few days, and found it uncomfortable in my hand as compared to the Logitech body. I have long fingers, so the curved shape and height of the Logitech feels comfortable. The Razer felt too flat, and I missed having a place to rest my thumb on and and for my pinky to rest against. The button placement seemed awkward too, forcing my fingers closer together so I returned it.

Logitech MX518

I then picked up a Logitech MX 518. The familiar feel was welcome, and the bonus of the dpi adjustment worked well. The programming of it works easily too. The scroll wheel sits at a comfortable height, and the wheel button has just the right amount of resistance. The sensitivity increase and decrease buttons took some getting used to, as they are small and being located in front of and behind the wheel. The weight of the mouse is just right. There are 5 small feet which allow the mouse to glide easily, no hangups. Being an optical mouse, it has a hollowed out area for the light, which I found scooped up cat hair, although I don't think it ever effected the beam.

Microsoft Sidewinder

I read a review of the Microsoft Sidewinder mouse, and based on it's size and shape, as well as the placement of the thumb buttons, I thought i would check it out. (Unfortunately, there wasn't a display model.) The button placement didn't take much getting used to and seemed to work well. The weight was also decent. The feet seemed to work OK. What I didn't like was the ledge that my pinky rested on; I felt like I was pulling the mouse back into my hand. The scroll wheel felt loose and didn't seem to click in a nice precise manner. So back it went.

Logitech G5

I decided to give the Logitech G5 (new 2 thumb button) a try. Very similar to the MX 518, but with a different texture, and a scroll wheel with left and right button movement, and laser instead of optical. I thought I would like the rubberized texture, but it really didn't seem to have the same grip that the sides of the 518 does. A bit disappointed there, but not too hard to get used to. The scroll wheel sits up a bit higher probably due to the fact that it clicks left and right. Being higher, I found myself clicking the scroll wheel's down button too easily-not good when you don't need it. The left and right click of the scroll wheel was too easy to activate too. I didn't get to play with the resolution settings much to see if they make any noticeable difference. Also, the laser would not have played cat hair scoop either! The other thing I didn't like was the braided cable. It seemed stiff and hung up on the edge of the mousepad, unlike the standard cabling and flexibility of the others. The larger feet seemed to work just as well as the small 5 feet on the MX 518.

Final

Anyway I'm back to using the MX 518 and am happy to have given some other mice a try. It always comes down to personal preference, but it never hurts to see what other options are around if you have the opportunity.

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#39 maden2004
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Okay after reading you guys posts and checkin the links out i know for sure i dont want G9 because i noticed in the logitech g5(used i bought off ebay) weights were useless for me and i just dont like the way the mouse really looks because it seems uncomfortable. I also dont want the mx518. Which leaves me with the either Razer deathadder or Razer Lachesis. Question what is the difference between the Deathadder and the lachesis???
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#40 bike749
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Razor Has Best Gaming Mouse They Kill Logitech Sorry Logitech Next Year LMAO Also the Best Gaming KeyBoard razor have it .
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#42 blackstar
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Lachesis has higher DPI, and mor eadded custom buttons than the deathadder. It has other stuff as well.

Spec wise, the lachesis is much better. I dont know about its ergonomics though.
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#43 nico92ger
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If you like Wireless or Cordless mouse, you must think in the Logitech G7, is the best Wireless gaming mouse.

If you doesnt matter the Cord, you must think in the Logitech G9, is the best gaming mouse :)

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#44 General_X
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fatal1ty has one many championships with that mouse

use what he uses to get battle tested gear approved by johnathan wendel

fatal1ty 2020 is the way to go

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Courtesy of ESReality:  Note where the 2020 lands in the mouse benchmarking.
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#45 PWN-Schubie
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what is this a benchmark of?
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#46 blackstar
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tracking motion, check out the review. The link was posted in the thread (1st or 2nd page).
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#47 maden2004
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Okay well im lookin at Razer mices. They look really nice and im pretty sure they are perfect for me.. But which one.... i am lookin for a mice for a bang for it buck. Like not lookin for a mouse that is really good but very expensive when i get pay a little cheaper and still get a similiar mouse. So Lachesis has 4000 dpi and the lower end deathadder has 1800.. does the dpi make huge difference? Like i dont usually have my sensetivity that high at all. But what want to be able to do is be able to snipe a tiny ass head in cod 4 where i just see the helmet and not jump 5pixels and F!ck around tryin to point at that head with with my Sh!t mouse. SO tell me which Razer i should get and what things i shoud look for when i get a mouse/ also what does dpi do? how much of a difference is it going from 1800 to 4K
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#48 blackstar
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You will see very little difference oging from 1800 dpi and 4000 dpi. Anything above 1800 dpi it is hard to differentiate. Which mouse has a higher dpi, doesnt mean is better, its a marketing scheme.

Also, if your going sniping, you would preferably want to go with lower dpi (800 dpi or less), to make those steady shots.


I never owned razer mice, but thinking of getting one, the diamondback, deathadder, and copperhead look good.

Also laser mice are as good as optical/infarered.
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#49 skip2mefil
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get the fatal1ty 2020 its a proven winner

used by professional gamer JOHNATHAN "FATAL1TY" WENDEL

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#50 blackstar
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get the fatal1ty 2020 its a proven winner

used by professional gamer JOHNATHAN "FATAL1TY" WENDEL

skip2mefil



stop spamming.

Also the fatal1ty 2020 isnt that great at all.