looks like ATI will dominate this generation (IMHO) (links)

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

sabbath2gamer

Awesome to hear that, and your correct on the 9 milion dept. Also im grabing my self two 3870X2's for Crossfire on monday to go along with my new DFI LanParty LT X38-T2R X38 Mobo and a E8500 as soon as i find it lol. Ill OC the crap out of everything. Wonder what kind of 3Dmark score will i get probly really high lol!

HD 3850's competition will be 9600GT,it already beats 8600GT easily,but then again 8600GT is under $100,but then HD 2600XT beats it in newer games and its the same price so yeah :o :P

And AMD CPU's own for budget builds,since Intel's only CPU's under $100 are the Pentium E2*** and Celeron E1***'s and they're crippled due to the lack of L2 cache,and decent AMD motherboard's are cheaper than Intel Equalivents.

I think the HD3690 is shaping up to be a nice mainstream card.

On the subject of the pentium dual cores, 1mb of L2 Cache is the same as the AMD counterparts, and they OC much better.

HD 3850's competition will be 9600GT,it already beats 8600GT easily,but then again 8600GT is under $100,but then HD 2600XT beats it in newer games and its the same price so yeah :o :P

And AMD CPU's own for budget builds,since Intel's only CPU's under $100 are the Pentium E2*** and Celeron E1***'s and they're crippled due to the lack of L2 cache,and decent AMD motherboard's are cheaper than Intel Equalivents.

Indestructible2

yes but with the new 3690 which is like 30 bucks less then the 3850 it wil have a good price:performance ratio

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

HD 3850's competition will be 9600GT,it already beats 8600GT easily,but then again 8600GT is under $100,but then HD 2600XT beats it in newer games and its the same price so yeah :o :P

And AMD CPU's own for budget builds,since Intel's only CPU's under $100 are the Pentium E2*** and Celeron E1***'s and they're crippled due to the lack of L2 cache,and decent AMD motherboard's are cheaper than Intel Equalivents.

sabbath2gamer

yes but with the new 3690 which is like 30 bucks less then the 3850 it wil have a good price:performance ratio

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

Right.... and you would think that Nvidia will sit around and do nothing for their entry-level cards? Although, its a nice thing that ATI has got the head start.

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

3890 is no where near the 3850. Much less to say, HD3850 is not even as powerful as the 8800GS where the 9600GT's performance is equavalent with. The only prop I give to the 3890 is its price.

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

Too early to tell. I'm not giving into all these "early" reviews too much, I see all of them as utter bull. I do acknowledge that the HD3870 X2 is definitely going to give Nvidia a big competition in the enthusiast market. But again, what makes you think Nvidia is going to back down?

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

Debt to who? If anyone is in debpt, it is the entire AMD company itself. ATI can regain the lost ground in the graphics card market, but as of now and the way things looks, Intel is already beating AMD to a stand-still. Reign about Triple-Cores all you want, I wouldn't be suprised if it turned out to be a dissapointment as Phenom has.

My 8800GTX hold for one year as king of the hill.

I doubt 3870x2 will hold that long... even for 6 months.

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

that remains to be seen, crossfire scales better then sli and i don't think that's going to change with the 9800gtx2... just look at the 8800 sli benchies against the 3870 crossfire, it's going to be a good race

to the guy who said, "the 3780 wont last 6 months"...1st off its called the 3870 so the card you mentioned doesnt even exist...

so your right...good job.

to the guy who said, "the 3780 wont last 6 months"...1st off its called the 3870 so the card you mentioned doesnt even exist...

so your right...good job.

LTZH

wow... you get my point... jesus some people are to sensitive.

I mean really, i miss placed 2 numbers and this guy does a post about me... lol

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

sabbath2gamer

Those cards are actually weak tbh.

[QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"]

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

perfect_chao

Those cards are actually weak tbh.

3870x2 beats your 8800gt sli setup tbh

The thread title is asking for a flame fest.

How about we wait until NVIDIA reveals their hand too?

The thread title is asking for a flame fest.

How about we wait until NVIDIA reveals their hand too?

Wesker776

hm maybe its the title but in no way am i trying to prove a point (my title says otherwise) im just saying that ATI is starting to give compettion since the x19xx series

EDIT: yet i guess people just dont read the whole title i said "IMHO"

You do know you are comparing nvidia's last generation to ATI's newest generation. Wait until Nvidia releases thier 9 series before making assumptions.el_carl

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the correct answer.

[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

The thread title is asking for a flame fest.

How about we wait until NVIDIA reveals their hand too?

sabbath2gamer

hm maybe its the title but in no way am i trying to prove a point (my title says otherwise) im just saying that ATI is starting to give compettion since the x19xx series

EDIT: yet i guess people just dont read the whole title i said "IMHO"

I agree with Wesker, lets wait for Nvidia to play their hand. Also you should blog this.

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

Lehman

It never pays to take sides :)

CPUs & GPUs go in 'dominance' cycles, 1 day AMD is king, the next Intel; same thing with nVidia and ATi. To pick one over the other is just doing your wallet a disservice.

And yes please out your flames out before posting in this thread :P

You do know you are comparing nvidia's last generation to ATI's newest generation. Wait until Nvidia releases thier 9 series before making assumptions.el_carl

You make a good point!

But for competitions sake i so hope ATI does give Nvidia a thrashing this generation!

[QUOTE="Lehman"]

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

Krall

It never pays to take sides :)

CPUs & GPUs go in 'dominance' cycles, 1 day AMD is king, the next Intel; same thing with nVidia and ATi. To pick one over the other is just doing your wallet a disservice.

And yes please out your flames out before posting in this thread :P

I would definitely agree with the GPU industry going back and forth between hardware vendors, but not so much for the CPU industry.

It was only because of the NetBurst blunder, "corrupt" directors in Intel's corporate ladder and highly efficient design of K8 that shifted the performance crown from Intel to AMD. You could say Intel was hit by the perfect storm.

If AMD were more the size of Intel (much like how ATi was to NVIDIA prior to the AMD buyout), we would see faster rotation of performance leadership. It's a bit hard to steal the golden banana from an 800 lb gorilla. :lol:

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

sabbath2gamer

me to. i hope they will also make a better CPU-s.

[QUOTE="Krall"][QUOTE="Lehman"]

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

Wesker776

It never pays to take sides :)

CPUs & GPUs go in 'dominance' cycles, 1 day AMD is king, the next Intel; same thing with nVidia and ATi. To pick one over the other is just doing your wallet a disservice.

And yes please out your flames out before posting in this thread :P

I would definitely agree with the GPU industry going back and forth between hardware vendors, but not so much for the CPU industry.

It was only because of the NetBurst blunder, "corrupt" directors in Intel's corporate ladder and highly efficient design of K8 that shifted the performance crown from Intel to AMD. You could say Intel was hit by the perfect storm.

If AMD were more the size of Intel (much like how ATi was to NVIDIA prior to the AMD buyout), we would see faster rotation of performance leadership. It's a bit hard to steal the golden banana from an 800 lb gorilla. :lol:

[QUOTE="Wesker776"][QUOTE="Krall"][QUOTE="Lehman"]

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

SearchMaster

It never pays to take sides :)

CPUs & GPUs go in 'dominance' cycles, 1 day AMD is king, the next Intel; same thing with nVidia and ATi. To pick one over the other is just doing your wallet a disservice.

And yes please out your flames out before posting in this thread :P

I would definitely agree with the GPU industry going back and forth between hardware vendors, but not so much for the CPU industry.

It was only because of the NetBurst blunder, "corrupt" directors in Intel's corporate ladder and highly efficient design of K8 that shifted the performance crown from Intel to AMD. You could say Intel was hit by the perfect storm.

If AMD were more the size of Intel (much like how ATi was to NVIDIA prior to the AMD buyout), we would see faster rotation of performance leadership. It's a bit hard to steal the golden banana from an 800 lb gorilla. :lol:

Ditto!

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

sabbath2gamer

Your words dont match with what links show. Link to FPSlabs clearly showed that 3870X2 is only faster then 88GT SLI in what, 2 games? Further in those games where 3870X2 was faster then GT SLI single GT was faster then GT SLI so something isnt right (drivers?). Not to mention that 3870X2 is worst then GTS 512MB in Crysis. Of course 3870X2 beats GTX in all games i belive, but hey, GTX is 1 year and 3 months old. I dont belive ATI will dominate for long time with current cards. They will need something new fast cause 9800GTX (or whatever it will be called) is fast approaching.

Imo we needed such comeback

When only 1 company selling and there isnt anyone else on the market... No new technology,no new cards,no better graphics for us,no cheaper prices more often..... And then we cry why Crysis has such requirements...

Hope AMD do the same for Intel ...

[QUOTE="perfect_chao"][QUOTE="sabbath2gamer"]

looks like ATI is and has dominated for this generation of video cards

the 3450 takes over for low end computers and it looks like the 3470 is going to be better then the 8400gs and 8500 and its only 60 bucks! while the 3450 is only 50 bucks!

http://fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5340&Itemid=34

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5325&Itemid=1

for medium

i think the 3850 is in the lead as it crushed the 8600gt,gts

and now ATI is planning on releasing the 3690 which is about the same if not better then the 3850 and its cheaper at $124 this card will also be compared to the 8800gs as stated in the article

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5334&Itemid=34

as for a high end pc

you have the 3870 which isnt as good as the 8800gt but in some games it exceeds it

but the best thing here is the 3870x2 which is about $500

in the benchmarks the 3870x2 exceed the 8800gt,gts(g92),gtx,and ultra

this bad boy is also better then 8800gt sli setup (except in one game tested)

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-5

(if you take the time to read it....it sounds as though the guys who made this review are kinda mad that ATI is succeeding nvidia....nvidia fanboys i assume:P )

looks like ATI is making a comeback i also heard that instead of them being in debt of 100 some millions dollars there now only at 9 million although im not sure on this...if anyone does know plz correct me.

but im glad AMD/ATI really needed this

sabbath2gamer

Those cards are actually weak tbh.

3870x2 beats your 8800gt sli setup tbh

It does:shock:?

Imo we needed such comeback

When only 1 company selling and there isnt anyone else on the market... No new technology,no new cards,no better graphics for us,no cheaper prices more often..... And then we cry why Crysis has such requirements...

Hope AMD do the same for Intel ...

AzatiS

When u said there is no new tech, no new cards ect. u forgot to mention there also wouldnt be games as Crysis that would make u buy new PC just to play stupid game.

Guyz wake up...

We desperatly need a comeback from ATI/AMD...

Or else we gonna end up with same chipsets/gpus/cpus for another 2 years.its goin nowhere like this...

Their competition to whom will develop better cards/cpus is better for us.

AzatiS, you are correct, but comeback doesn't mean you need to pwn in every price segment. They owned low and medium price before. They just had to do something to beat ultra. And that is hd3870 x2.

Yeah, and i hope for AMD to recover too.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Imo we needed such comeback

When only 1 company selling and there isnt anyone else on the market... No new technology,no new cards,no better graphics for us,no cheaper prices more often..... And then we cry why Crysis has such requirements...

Hope AMD do the same for Intel ...

domke13

When u said there is no new tech, no new cards ect. u forgot to mention there also wouldnt be games as Crysis that would make u buy new PC just to play stupid game.

M8 if there was a hard competition the past 2 or more years with ATI/Nvidia and Intel/AMD not only new proccessors would be already have released but also this GTX-GTS and Quad cores,and even DDR3 would be far cheaper than now. Your new PC to play Crysis would had far lower price than now....

[QUOTE="Krall"][QUOTE="Lehman"]

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

Wesker776

It never pays to take sides :)

CPUs & GPUs go in 'dominance' cycles, 1 day AMD is king, the next Intel; same thing with nVidia and ATi. To pick one over the other is just doing your wallet a disservice.

And yes please out your flames out before posting in this thread :P

I would definitely agree with the GPU industry going back and forth between hardware vendors, but not so much for the CPU industry.

It was only because of the NetBurst blunder, "corrupt" directors in Intel's corporate ladder and highly efficient design of K8 that shifted the performance crown from Intel to AMD. You could say Intel was hit by the perfect storm.

If AMD were more the size of Intel (much like how ATi was to NVIDIA prior to the AMD buyout), we would see faster rotation of performance leadership. It's a bit hard to steal the golden banana from an 800 lb gorilla. :lol:

AMD's K7 also beat Intel to 1GHz; AMD continued that with Barton cores that were beating Intel's P4s at the time which had nothing to do with corruption :) I don't think Intel's blunders came into play until AMD's X2 dual cores came out and Intel was so far stuck with their endless pipeline architecture that they started to reorganize after Prescott.

Prior to that the K6 line was competitive.

While I agree it ain't easy competing with an 800 lb gorilla AMD has continually held their own. I can't help but wonder how much better the little guy would have done if the field was level.

It's also of note that since it take 3 years typically to bring a new CPU architecture to bare fruit it's not as noticeable the seat changing that goes on like it does with a 6 month schedule that GPUs have.

Guyz wake up...

We desperatly need a comeback from ATI/AMD...

Or else we gonna end up with same chipsets/gpus/cpus for another 2 years.its goin nowhere like this...

Their competition to whom will develop better cards/cpus is better for us.

AzatiS

I am ok with that. I can end up with same chipsets /gpus /cpus for another 5 years. At least game developers will use it to full potential, like they do on consoles. And i wont need to spend 1000$ on new PC components just to play a game, that could probably be easly playable on current cards if game developers would optimize games, instead of being lazy and just saying "ah lets make killer graphics engine, granted current cards will have hard time running it, but we will make ppl buy new cards when they come out, and ATI/Nvidia could get us some bonus for that."

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

Guyz wake up...

We desperatly need a comeback from ATI/AMD...

Or else we gonna end up with same chipsets/gpus/cpus for another 2 years.its goin nowhere like this...

Their competition to whom will develop better cards/cpus is better for us.

domke13

I am ok with that. I can end up with same chipsets /gpus /cpus for another 5 years. At least game developers will use it to full potential, like they do on consoles. And i wont need to spend 1000$ on new PC components just to play a game, that could probably be easly playable on current cards if game developers would optimize games, instead of being lazy and just saying "ah lets make killer graphics engine, granted current cards will have hard time running it, but we will make ppl buy new cards when they come out, and ATI/Nvidia could get us some bonus for that."

i am the kind of guy who wants to look at the future not stick to the present and those killer graphics is what made me a hardcore gamer from the very begining it may sound like i am agraphic whore but lets be honest who doesnt enjoy it :)

By G100 Nvidia should be crapping all over ATi. opethpwn

The GT200 is meant to fight with the R700, so both should be able to outperform the R680/G92x2.

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd-3870-x2-review/page-2

This is a good card, but for $500 I dont think its better than 2 GT's with you can get now for only $240@ newegg

The 9k series is due for launch from nVidia this spring, so ATi won't hold any crowns for too long (unless nVidia really fumbled this launch).RikkAndrsn

The 9 series is based off of G92/G90, which is based on G80. Just like how the HD3000 series is based on Rx6x0, which are based on R600.

Don't expect any miracles. :/

IMHO Intel and Nvidia are the best

but thats just me and i always had a Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU
i have never had a AMD CPU or a ATI GPU,

and also if the 3870X2 beats the GTX and Ultra (8800) will it be able to beat the up coming 9800GTX/Ultra???

Lehman