Looks like I'm going to be upgrading/swapping my headphones tomorrow

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#1 Mozelleple112
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Buying a pair of used Denon D5000s, I asked for self taken pics, and I'm going to be meeting him in Oslo. They're in mint condition and come with original packaging, though no receipt...

He's selling them for half of retail price

Looking for deeper bass with a much higher quantity of it than my current K702s can provide. My options were Beyerdynamic or Denon.


Going to bring an iPod with me, give em listen; but looks all good eh?

They sell them at my local hi-fi store chain so if anything breaks (doesn't seem all too likely) I guess they can be repaired easily?


They're 23 months old and he estimates 250-300 hours usage.

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Damn lucky you I bet they're going to blow your ears off. I would personally bring more than just an Ipod if I could, if he has a source for you to use. Max those babies out with power.
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nice im getting dt 990s

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Damn lucky you I bet they're going to blow your ears off. I would personally bring more than just an Ipod if I could, if he has a source for you to use. Max those babies out with power. DivergeUnify
I'm not bring my iPod to blow my ears off or convince me that the headphones are good, I've already heard them, I just want to make sure there isn't anything fishy or blown drivers or anything. It's very unlikely but I just can't buy anything used without making sure it's there. "high" quality Mp3 should do the trick. When I get home it'll be some high quality CD rips & FLAC ofc ;)

The D5000's are only 25 ohm so it should be a legitimate test anyways ? :P

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Wasting those with an ipod...?
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]Damn lucky you I bet they're going to blow your ears off. I would personally bring more than just an Ipod if I could, if he has a source for you to use. Max those babies out with power. Mozelleple112

I'm not bring my iPod to blow my ears off or convince me that the headphones are good, I've already heard them, I just want to make sure there isn't anything fishy or blown drivers or anything. It's very unlikely but I just can't buy anything used without making sure it's there. "high" quality Mp3 should do the trick. When I get home it'll be some high quality CD rips & FLAC ofc ;)

The D5000's are only 25 ohm so it should be a legitimate test anyways ? :P

I figured D5000s were higher impendence than that. Still, if its for the purpose of making sure they sound good, than I guess you're all set. I would still bring a laptop with source or something just to make sure( an iPod can't drive them to the breaking point) , but still... good for you bro! I don't have a problem with 320k mp3s, I think they sound just as good as FLAC, although since I've moved up in the audio world I haven't bothered to do ABX tests
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]Damn lucky you I bet they're going to blow your ears off. I would personally bring more than just an Ipod if I could, if he has a source for you to use. Max those babies out with power. DivergeUnify

I'm not bring my iPod to blow my ears off or convince me that the headphones are good, I've already heard them, I just want to make sure there isn't anything fishy or blown drivers or anything. It's very unlikely but I just can't buy anything used without making sure it's there. "high" quality Mp3 should do the trick. When I get home it'll be some high quality CD rips & FLAC ofc ;)

The D5000's are only 25 ohm so it should be a legitimate test anyways ? :P

I figured D5000s were higher impendence than that. Still, if its for the purpose of making sure they sound good, than I guess you're all set. I would still bring a laptop with source or something just to make sure( an iPod can't drive them to the breaking point) , but still... good for you bro! I don't have a problem with 320k mp3s, I think they sound just as good as FLAC, although since I've moved up in the audio world I haven't bothered to do ABX tests

I doubt that you would be able to discern the differences between 320kbps and FLAC. To me, the difference between 128 and 320 is noticeable but the jump from 320 to FLAC is almost non-existent to my ears. In order to hear any changes, I would have to focus intensely on the details but at that point, I'm no longer enjoying my music. I'm looking to upgrade in the future to a pair of LCD-2's or Ultrasone Edition 8s. That might change things a bit but I doubt it.

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Wasting those with an ipod...?MonsieurX
Did you intentionally ignore the post right above where I explained what I was doing with my ipod?
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] I'm not bring my iPod to blow my ears off or convince me that the headphones are good, I've already heard them, I just want to make sure there isn't anything fishy or blown drivers or anything. It's very unlikely but I just can't buy anything used without making sure it's there. "high" quality Mp3 should do the trick. When I get home it'll be some high quality CD rips & FLAC ofc ;)

The D5000's are only 25 ohm so it should be a legitimate test anyways ? :P

Foamybrian

I figured D5000s were higher impendence than that. Still, if its for the purpose of making sure they sound good, than I guess you're all set. I would still bring a laptop with source or something just to make sure( an iPod can't drive them to the breaking point) , but still... good for you bro! I don't have a problem with 320k mp3s, I think they sound just as good as FLAC, although since I've moved up in the audio world I haven't bothered to do ABX tests

I doubt that you would be able to discern the differences between 320kbps and FLAC. To me, the difference between 128 and 320 is noticeable but the jump from 320 to FLAC is almost non-existent to my ears. In order to hear any changes, I would have to focus intensely on the details but at that point, I'm no longer enjoying my music. I'm looking to upgrade in the future to a pair of LCD-2's or Ultrasone Edition 8s. That might change things a bit but I doubt it.

Actually FLAC sounds significantly better than 320 kbps. CDs sound slightly better and higher quality CDs will sound a bit better than that. FLAC will always be moderately better than high quality CD; in the end 320kbps --> FLAC will radically change, IMO.

. I've got Coldplay in FLAC, as well as Pink Floyd and a David Guetta Album too, I'm telling ya the difference is there, especially with analytical headphones.

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[QUOTE="Foamybrian"]

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] I figured D5000s were higher impendence than that. Still, if its for the purpose of making sure they sound good, than I guess you're all set. I would still bring a laptop with source or something just to make sure( an iPod can't drive them to the breaking point) , but still... good for you bro! I don't have a problem with 320k mp3s, I think they sound just as good as FLAC, although since I've moved up in the audio world I haven't bothered to do ABX tests Mozelleple112

I doubt that you would be able to discern the differences between 320kbps and FLAC. To me, the difference between 128 and 320 is noticeable but the jump from 320 to FLAC is almost non-existent to my ears. In order to hear any changes, I would have to focus intensely on the details but at that point, I'm no longer enjoying my music. I'm looking to upgrade in the future to a pair of LCD-2's or Ultrasone Edition 8s. That might change things a bit but I doubt it.

Actually FLAC sounds significantly better than 320 kbps. CDs sound slightly better and higher quality CDs will sound a bit better than that. FLAC will always be moderately better than high quality CD; in the end 320kbps --> FLAC will radically change, IMO.

. I've got Coldplay in FLAC, as well as Pink Floyd and a David Guetta Album too, I'm telling ya the difference is there, especially with analytical headphones.

This, i feel that flac adds more texture to the song, and makes the high trebles and low bass tones much more clear,

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="Foamybrian"]

I doubt that you would be able to discern the differences between 320kbps and FLAC. To me, the difference between 128 and 320 is noticeable but the jump from 320 to FLAC is almost non-existent to my ears. In order to hear any changes, I would have to focus intensely on the details but at that point, I'm no longer enjoying my music. I'm looking to upgrade in the future to a pair of LCD-2's or Ultrasone Edition 8s. That might change things a bit but I doubt it.

edinsftw

Actually FLAC sounds significantly better than 320 kbps. CDs sound slightly better and higher quality CDs will sound a bit better than that. FLAC will always be moderately better than high quality CD; in the end 320kbps --> FLAC will radically change, IMO.

. I've got Coldplay in FLAC, as well as Pink Floyd and a David Guetta Album too, I'm telling ya the difference is there, especially with analytical headphones.

This, i feel that flac adds more texture to the song, and makes the high trebles and low bass tones much more clear,

Some people can tell the difference between 320kbps and FLAC, others can't. I fall into the latter. My current main setup is an AKG 702 & 1964-Q paired with a DAC-1. I alternate between the DAC-1 and a Xonar Essence STX (with 2x LME49720 opamps) for music depending on my mood. The latter is mainly for gaming and movies with the DT990. Despite my music collection consisting of about 80% FLAC (music converting purposes) and numerous AB testing with 320kbps files, I cannot identify a significant difference between both formats. At most, there are subtle ques (usually timbre) that I pick up with specific songs but I usually have to be paying full attention to notice it. Maybe things will change once I grab a pair of LCD-2's, but I highly doubt it since the AKGs are already quite good when it comes to detail retrieval. I'm mostly going for the LCD-2 for the jaw dropping sound stage and "organic" signature.

To be honest, I really don't mind not being able to discern the differences. It saves me a ton of space on my MP3 player :).

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I have a Spherex 5.1 in 2.1 atm, and I can tell a slight quality difference between FLAC and 320mp3. (not much of one, but a tiny one none-the-less)

I can tell it slightly more when I use my Sennheiser HD280pro headphones.

I am pretty sure I could probably here it more on something like a AKG702 with a decent little Headphone amp. (which is something I am aiming for in the future)

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Hmm, guess this is something worth testing
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wasting those with an ipod...?Mozelleple112
Did you intentionally ignore the post right above where I explained what I was doing with my ipod?

I believe Monsieur X is referring to the iPod amplifier, not the encoding quality of the music. Boz
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wasting those with an ipod...?Bozanimal
Did you intentionally ignore the post right above where I explained what I was doing with my ipod?

I believe Monsieur X is referring to the iPod amplifier, not the encoding quality of the music. Boz

What? I know, that's what I explained in my post above his comment. I only brought any ipod to test that the denons weren't blown/broken. ----------- I'VE GOT THE HEADPHONES NOW! GREAT DEAL. mint condition, sound is deep and bassy yet analytic, just how I want it!
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Grats: They're amazing looking headphones. I think you made the right call over the DT770s.

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Grats: They're amazing looking headphones. I think you made the right call over the DT770s.

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Thanks. If not for you (and 2 other guys I asked on different forums who also said I should save my money) I would have gone out and bought the DT770s. Just about a day afterwards I found these for sale; great price, only 45 minutes from my house, got a nice trip to Oslo; where I got to a quick demo of Norway's greatest home cinema "Acoustically treated" for 1 million Norwegian kroners (about $180,000) with B&W Diamond 800s, some unidentifiable (to my eyes) surround speakers, Diamond HTM2 centre, and I believe it was a $25K Lyngdorf amplifier powering the speakers as well as Denons top model receiver.. Didn't get a look at the projector though Saw a few minutes Transformers 1, action scene, holy smokes what an experience!
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#18 Lach0121
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Nice, I am glad you made out in that deal, Happy gaming, music listening/making, (whatever they will be used for :) )