Mafia 2 disappointed me ....

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#1 wabitxxx
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i think little details in game improves their quality and reputation and i love the firs mafia more than the second there is no depth in mafia 2 and very lineer storyline and freedom i wish they had the freedom and variety of saints row and then make it fit in the story.

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#2 Farkeman
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i only know that it has worst ending ever :(
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#3 wabitxxx
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didnt know that but thanks for the heads up cant beat the first ones ending anyways

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#4 Vfanek
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It suffered from the same problems as Mafia 1, I found. A lot of bloody boring 'gameplay'. The voice acting is great though, but the plot? Eh...
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#5 B45AK
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Speaking of the first games ending... ;)

I just finished the game about 10 mins ago and it was great. I liked the ending....

*tiny spoiler*

it was a bit open ended yet still managed to set a similar mood as the ending of the godfather movies or the first mafia game.

In any case I expect it to be resoleved a bit more in DLC or perhaps even Mafia III or maybe they'll just leave us guessing. I kind of hope they leave us guessing :D

*spoilers end*

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#6 the_mitch28
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I was dissapointed that there wasn't anymore to the car tuning and upgrading than there was in the demo.

And yeah the story didn't leave as much of an impression as the first but it was still fun.

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#7 wabitxxx
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it is fun but you cant shoot while you are driving when you hit a person with your car they slide like a statue you can no longer start the engine yourself and things like theese small details makes me angry.

in all blizzar games there is many details like that for example unit response etc. mafia 2 is just a lineer but stunningly good looking game

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#8 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I was dissapointed that there wasn't anymore to the car tuning and upgrading than there was in the demo.

And yeah the story didn't leave as much of an impression as the first but it was still fun.

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There were more car tuning options on the ps3 version because of the exclusive dlc (my bro bought the ps3 version).
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#9 the_mitch28
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[QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

I was dissapointed that there wasn't anymore to the car tuning and upgrading than there was in the demo.

And yeah the story didn't leave as much of an impression as the first but it was still fun.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

There were more car tuning options on the ps3 version because of the exclusive dlc (my bro bought the ps3 version).

Well according to the game files the DLC isn't going to be exclusive for long so that's good.

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#10 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

I was dissapointed that there wasn't anymore to the car tuning and upgrading than there was in the demo.

And yeah the story didn't leave as much of an impression as the first but it was still fun.

the_mitch28

There were more car tuning options on the ps3 version because of the exclusive dlc (my bro bought the ps3 version).

Well according to the game files the DLC isn't going to be exclusive for long so that's good.

Really? Good since I hate the aiming on the console versions and the fps is terribad.
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#12 Levrar
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The way it ended was okay for me, unfortunately it was too short and felt like it was rushed at the 6 hour mark.
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#13 the_mitch28
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[QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"] There were more car tuning options on the ps3 version because of the exclusive dlc (my bro bought the ps3 version). SAGE_OF_FIRE

Well according to the game files the DLC isn't going to be exclusive for long so that's good.

Really? Good since I hate the aiming on the console versions and the fps is terribad.

Yeah there's even achievements for it already on steam lol

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#14 KHAndAnime
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I liked it more than the first Mafia. :)

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#15 kozzy1234
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The story was fantastic, the gameplay was fun, the voice acting and characters where good.

Better then I expected to be honest.

I have not beat hte game yet, but im 10 hours into it and it says im abotu 40% done.

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#16 Levrar
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The story was fantastic, the gameplay was fun, the voice acting and characters where good.

Better then I expected to be honest.

I have not beat hte game yet, but im 10 hours into it and it says im abotu 40% done.

kozzy1234
I beat it in 7 hours with lots of messing around whenever possible. You are definitely making it last. ;)
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#17 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

The story was fantastic, the gameplay was fun, the voice acting and characters where good.

Better then I expected to be honest.

I have not beat hte game yet, but im 10 hours into it and it says im abotu 40% done.

Levrar

I beat it in 7 hours with lots of messing around whenever possible. You are definitely making it last. ;)

7 hours.. wow... I dont understand how you can bea tit that fast. Playing on easy or something? No messing around? :P

11 hours for me so far and im on chapter 13 so I think imcoming near the end soon.

But I have only messed around a little in between missions, wierd :oops:

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The thing I don't understand is that there are melee weapons in the game but you can't get them normally.
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#19 Levrar
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[QUOTE="Levrar"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

The story was fantastic, the gameplay was fun, the voice acting and characters where good.

Better then I expected to be honest.

I have not beat hte game yet, but im 10 hours into it and it says im abotu 40% done.

kozzy1234

I beat it in 7 hours with lots of messing around whenever possible. You are definitely making it last. ;)

7 hours.. wow... I dont understand how you can bea tit that fast. Playing on easy or something? No messing around? :P

11 hours for me so far and im on chapter 13 so I think imcoming near the end soon.

But I have only messed around a little in between missions, wierd :oops:

Nah, played on Medium but will be doing Hard next. I wish I could've made it last a little longer, I feel ripped off right that it was finished so early.
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#20 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Levrar"] I beat it in 7 hours with lots of messing around whenever possible. You are definitely making it last. ;)Levrar

7 hours.. wow... I dont understand how you can bea tit that fast. Playing on easy or something? No messing around? :P

11 hours for me so far and im on chapter 13 so I think imcoming near the end soon.

But I have only messed around a little in between missions, wierd :oops:

Nah, played on Medium but will be doing Hard next. I wish I could've made it last a little longer, I feel ripped off right that it was finished so early.

That's pretty impressive on your part. It took me 11 hours on medium and I didn't mess around at all, though I did have to try a few times on the bank mission.
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#21 DigitalExile
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I loved Mafia 1. Loved loved loved loved LOVED it.

Previews made me vary wary and sad for Mafia 2. The demo put the nails in the coffin. I'm not even going to bother buying it until one weekend when it's half price and I have nothing else to do.

Such a shame :(

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#22 millerlight89
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Just beat it, as far as gameplay mechanics and such it is much improved over the first. As for the story, well I really loved parts of it and other parts not so much. I really wanted to spend more time in the 40s, but that was not the part that underwhelmed me. It felt like they tried to put too much in the story without trying to expand on it. Things happened too quickly and I have to agree that the pacing was a bit off. However after entering the 50s it got better, not great, but better. The characters are either hit or miss for me. I loved Joe and Vito, but some of the others just felt like place holders really. The ending was ok, but it felt unfinished. Though maybe that is a sign of things to come, Mafia 3 picking up where that one left off would be awesome. They did have some nice twists here and there, which did help. Though I wish they would have spread them out a bit more. Overall it was a fantastic game with awesome atmosphere, great shooting, fun driving. The story was not bad in any means, just not as good as the first.

It took me 12 hours to beat, but I highly doubt the person who said it only took 7 is being fully truthful about the way they played. No messing around at all and you only got 7? I messed around for maybe an hour tops, so that would bring my main story time to 11. I only had to retry twice, so not sure about that one.

Overall I would have to give it an 8.5. Not quite AAA material, but still one hell of a game.

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#23 kozzy1234
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I loved Mafia 1. Loved loved loved loved LOVED it.

Previews made me vary wary and sad for Mafia 2. The demo put the nails in the coffin. I'm not even going to bother buying it until one weekend when it's half price and I have nothing else to do.

Such a shame :(

DigitalExile

If you loved Mafia1 then you will like this game Im 90% sure.

The demo doesnt show you any of the story or good things to be honest.

I would say peopel who hated Mafia1 should stay away from this game but people who loved Mafia1, should enjoy this.
I wouldnt let hte demo put you off this game, especially if you loved Mafia1 like you said

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#24 Levrar
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It took me 12 hours to beat, but I highly doubt the person who said it only took 7 is being fully truthful about the way they played. No messing around at all and you only got 7?

millerlight89
The game says 8 hours but Steam says 7 hours. I didn't have to repeat any missions and I robbed all the places except the gas stations, bought all the outfits I wanted, stole and customized every car I liked, keep in mind I never used the speed limiter and didn't use cover that often. I found it was pointless to rob and crush cars when [that spoiler] happened so I finished the game from there. Found most of the playboys and plan to FAQ the game next. Everybody has their own pace, take that into consideration next time you try to call me a liar.
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#25 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Levrar"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]

It took me 12 hours to beat, but I highly doubt the person who said it only took 7 is being fully truthful about the way they played. No messing around at all and you only got 7?

The game says 8 hours but Steam says 7 hours. I didn't have to repeat any missions and I robbed all the places except the gas stations, bought all the outfits I wanted, stole and customized every car I liked, keep in mind I never used the speed limiter and didn't use cover that often. I found it was pointless to rob and crush cars when [that spoiler] happened so I finished the game from there. Found most of the playboys and plan to FAQ the game next. Everybody has their own pace, take that into consideration next time you try to call me a liar.

Never called you a liar, jsut stated it did not seem truthful or accurate. I never stated you were a liar, but it is very hard to believe that you did all of that within 7 hours.
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#26 Levrar
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Levrar"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]

It took me 12 hours to beat, but I highly doubt the person who said it only took 7 is being fully truthful about the way they played. No messing around at all and you only got 7?

The game says 8 hours but Steam says 7 hours. I didn't have to repeat any missions and I robbed all the places except the gas stations, bought all the outfits I wanted, stole and customized every car I liked, keep in mind I never used the speed limiter and didn't use cover that often. I found it was pointless to rob and crush cars when [that spoiler] happened so I finished the game from there. Found most of the playboys and plan to FAQ the game next. Everybody has their own pace, take that into consideration next time you try to call me a liar.

Never called you a liar, jsut stated it did not seem truthful or accurate. I never stated you were a liar, but it is very hard to believe that you did all of that within 7 hours.

I know a three letter word for something that doesn't seem truthful, and a four letter word for people who do it. Fill in the blanks.
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#27 Bikouchu35
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7 hours? Well is possible, skipping scenes, medium, and experience ( lets not talk speedrun that takes many playthroughs to reach). Took me 11, that [spoiler] warehouse mission where you kill derek took an hour for me on hard [/spoiler]

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#28 teardropmina
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spoiler to some,

just got out of the jail...driving a long way to dump and bury a dead body? driving a truck a long way to sell cigarettes? "boring" is too slight a term for that! the rare moment when I actually feel that I'm wasting my time while playing games~~"

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#29 Vfanek
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spoiler to some,

just got out of the jail...driving a long way to dump and bury a dead body? driving a truck a long way to sell cigarettes? "boring" is too slight a term for that! the rare moment when I actually feel that I'm wasting my time while playing games~~"

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Get used to it, the rest of the game has the same structure. Hell, there's one mission irght at the end where a cutscene plays and you get picked up in a car, they tell you to go to another place and drops you off at the other side of the map. Yeah, it's as fun as it sounds.
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GTA IV is better.
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#31 kozzy1234
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GTA IV is better.beautyheavens

if you want to do things like hang out with your cousin at the bar or date women or you want better graphics in the game then sure...

Story, gameplay and characters I gotta give to Mafia2 though personally.

GTA IV did have better graphics and more to do though...

Oh yeah and Mafia2 is optimized alot better.

Its totally prefferance though. My cousin is the same way.. hates Mafia1/2.. loves GTA series.. Me, well I enjoy GTA games but the story never pulls me in and gets boring quickly to me. He enjoys more shooting, going to the bar and random violence.. while I prefer storytelling, atmosphere and better characters. He likes to skip cutscenes anre dialogue.. I like to read and listen carefully.

Still two great series, I just prefer what Mafia1/2 try to do and thats concentrate on narrative stuff. No one is wrong or right, just differance of taste and opinions.

In Mafia1/2 I felt like I was in that world and part of the action.. really pulled in by the atmosphere and interesting characters and story. GTA I just never seem to get addicted or pulled into the story.

Mafia2 definatly isnt perfect, Ill be the first to admit that, but it does what it sets out to do and im glad they made this series the way they do.

What if they combined Mafia and GTA... the storytelling, music and atmosphere of Mafia mixed with the better graphics and more open world gameplay.

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#32 Vfanek
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I loved Mafia 1 but can see how boring, dated and unoriginal Mafia 2 is. I never liked any GTA game past GTA 2. Where is you god now?
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I loved Mafia 1 but can see how boring, dated and unoriginal Mafia 2 is. I never liked any GTA game past GTA 2. Where is you god now?Vfanek
GTA and GTA 2 were way ahead of the curve for gaming. Being the victim or watching someone catapult in the air helplessly from an area effect/rocket is too fun and comical, lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUjKpNypIg&#t=0m32s

Priceless...

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- GTA2 Rocket Arena

Priceless...

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OMGWTF)("EUOD!"#DM"#DIOFN"#UN¤ Nostalgia overload.

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#35 rhazzy
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I know is not fair to make a comparison between Mafia 2 and GTA IV...but some dudes on this forums get on my nerves :d so...

1.Graphics : GTA IV has better graphics overall...a).Look at the car textures in GTA IV...the car texture in Mafia 2 pale in comparison.b).Look at the low rez textures that Mafia 2 uses for characters...lame,consolish.c).Look at the low rez building textures in mafia 2...consolish and lame.c).Look at the reflections in mafia 2...u could almost say they are nonexistent :D ... d).The car damage in mafia 2...i mean common,GTA IV is miles ahead on this one.

2.Gameplay & Mechanics : GTA IV has a better gameplay overall...a).Just take a look at the shooting mechanics in mafia 2...u can head shoot guys from 3 miles away with a freaking pistol...the shooting is so straight forward,all the guns in mafia 2 feels the same...b).Take a look how in mafia 2 every npc acts the same when u bump in to them...or when a car hits you there is no animation...no ragdolls.c).U cant freaking jump...d).the water in this city looks amazing...but why the hell cant you interact with it...its pointless,u cant swim,if u drive ur car in to water the car disappears...e).Did u noticed how in mafia every two other npcs are the same...i mean there are so few models of npcs...its like the entire town is populated with twins :D...at some point in the game i was walking and i came a cross 4 identical women,they where walking in line :D(same cloths,same hair,same hair colour)WTF??? f).Did u noticed in mafia 2 that when u smash ur car(at high speed) in to a wall or anything else,Vito dosent even,for a second,move his butt out of the driver seat?Its like hes glued to the seat...common they didnt even had seat belts at that time...g).In mafia 2 there are certain npcs which are made out of stone...u cant bump in to them,nothing...they are animated statues...

3.Memorablee Characters : you must be out of ur mind to say that mafia 2 has more memorable characters than GTA IV...I mean everyone knows Niko Belic and cousin Roman...Bruce...Vlad...Dimitri...I could think of alot of games that have more memorable characters than mafia 1 & 2...

In conclusion Mafia 2 is nowhere near GTA IV...Mafia 2 is so consolish that everybody will forget about this game in the months to come...Just like it happened with Alan Wake,Fable 2,Heavy Rain,Gears of War 2,GOW 3...This is what will happen to games that will come out focused on console.

4.The Story: here i could agree if someone would tell me Mafia 2 has a great story...but also i would agree if someone else would tell me GTA IV has a great story also...here is all about the tastes.

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#36 malebog123
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..Just like it happened with Alan Wake,Fable 2,Heavy Rain,Gears of War 2,GOW 3...This is what will happen to games that will come out focused on console.

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You don't know what you're talking about.

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#37 MR_HITMAN22
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it`s better the the first mafia
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#38 Baranga
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Rock, Paper, Shotgun reviewed it. Now I know I'll save my money for a long, long time.

I'll paste the most interesting paragraphs here, but make sure to read the entire review for additional thoughts.

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You're essentially a courier/chauffeur for the Family, and despite apparently rising in the ranks, your tasks never become any more significant. Even by the end of the game you're still struggling to do the most tedious of jobs, which inevitably involve driving a very long way, then driving back.

Vito's only in prison because of another tedious task, in which you're forced to drive to every gas station in the city in fifteen minutes, selling stamps. That's his big exciting crime: selling ration stamps. That's the scale in which Mafia II's story exists.

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To measure Mafia II against GTA IV is to measure Half-Life against STALKER. Neither has the same intentions, and neither should have to hit the same targets. Mafia II is more meaningfully measured against Mafia I, and it's here that it reveals how woefully empty it is.

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You can buy food to heal yourself, but you auto-heal and there's always free food in your apartment. You can buy guns, but the game gives you more than you'll ever be able to fire for nothing. You can upgrade your cars, but there's no need to at all. And gas? I drove one car a great deal, and it never got low on petrol, and if it had I'd just steal another one. The only establishments that serves a purpose are the clothes stores, which will let you disguise your appearance and shake police who may have a description of you. By, er, buying exactly the same clothes you were wearing before.

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Mafia II is devoid of emotion. Vito is a sociopath, and not by cunning writing, but because he's a hollow mannequin. His willingness to embrace the Mafia, and whichever grotesque tasks they demand of him, are met without conscience or consideration. When Vito finally does hesitate to do one illegal act toward the end, it's of so little consequence when compared with the horrors he's previously robotically performed, that you realise he was only ever a plastic pin stuck in an aimless plot.

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There's a couple of jokes that work, but in two hours of cutscenes that's really not enough. The rest is groups of people saying, "**** Marty, let's kill ***** Tony." (or whomever). It's such a collection of cliché that you could use it as a museum. When someone asks, "Hey, how'd you get in here?" the demoralising reply comes, "We followed the ***** yellow brick road." Imagine that dialogue endlessly repeated.

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However, the game does seem to have sourced a great deal of its content from the toilet. Quite literally. The story spends more time on topics of **** and vomit than anything else. One sequence in particular, involving disposing of a dead body, has drunken characters barfing everywhere, in what's presumably supposed to be crazy frat-movie antics. Another has Vito covered in human **** for an entire mission, to the scatological hilarity/disgust of everyone involved. I lost count of how many times it was implied that Vito was raped in the prison showers, but it sure must be a funny idea!

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Get shot in the back of the head, or have an idiot NPC driver crash you into a tree, and you'll have to not only repeat huge chunks of action, but also skip through cutscenes, get dressed, answer telephones, run down stairs, find cars… It's inexplicable.

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It's so maddening! This is an extraordinary game in many ways! An incredible city as wonderful decoration, with a really solid engine that's been lovingly crafted and executed. Superb gun fighting, amazing acting, and occasionally even some decent direction. The animations are remarkable, the damage modelling on the cars like nothing I've seen before.

But then it's let down by a nothing story, and the most peculiarly terrible ideas for missions. Why have such hateful checkpointing? What does it serve? Why make me pick out boxes of cigarettes (six times!) when I'm supposed to be playing a Mafia simulator? Why did they think those fisticuff fights were worth including once, let alone at least a dozen times? And why cast the player as a vacuous, uninteresting shop window dummy of crime?

What made Mafia: Lost Heaven special was Angelo, and his relationship with the world, the story, and the action. It was an enormously flawed game, with awful driving, overly-convoluted missions, and that race. But its heart was extraordinary. Mafia II has no heart at all. It's an emotionally dead, frequently boring game. The engine behind it desperately needs to be used for the excellent plot and thrilling action it deserved.

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#39 Ragingbear505
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I think the developers made a mistake when they went for authenticity in Mafia 2. What a lot of people don't realize is that mobs do engage in whatever activities will make them money easily, even doing things like selling stolen cigarettes or gas ration stamps. It doesn't seem epic or thrilling, but that's what they did. I remember an interview from way back early in the games development where they said they wanted to go the realistic approach instead of the romanticized over the top approach of Mafia. So we get things like a job of just dumping a dead body or robbing a jewelry store or even picking up a drunk Joe from a bar. A lot of people don't seem to have responded well to that though personally I enjoyed it.

What I don't understand is the comparison to Grand Theft Auto 4 in terms of things to do. Mafia 2 was never intended to be like GTA 4 and when you identify the sandbox elements of the two games they aren't much different.

Things to do in GTA 4:
-Go on dates/man-dates (basically bunch of pointless driving/waste of time/what people complain about Mafia 2 so this one gets thrown out)
-Purchase weapons and clothes
-Go on rampages
-Visit locations around the city and find hidden stuff
-Side missions like races, car thefts, and assassinations though the missions are overly simplistic and boring

Things to do in Mafia 2:
-Purchase weapons and clothes
-Go on rampages
-Visit locations around the city and find hidden stuff

The way I see it, we're getting the same sandbox elements minus the annoying get togethers and pointless side missions. Oh noes.

A lot of people complain the gunplay is awful in Mafia 2 and that GTA 4 was better. Really? Because in GTA 4 if I remember right you could blindfire headshot people from a block away easily. Yes for those who haven't played blindfire is just as effective as regular shooting and you can headshot using it at high ranges. Every fight in the game I won using blindfire, there's no reason not to use it, it makes the game so increndibly easy.

GTA 4 does not have better graphics than Mafia 2. Yes some of the models and animations might be a little better but for the most part GTA 4 looked dull, washed out, and blurry even cranking the settings up beyond console norms on the PC. With mods you can really make the game pop but Mafia 2 was much more striking just out of the box.