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#1 Xx_AxL_xX
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Is there going to be an Ipod Touch with high capacity ( like 80GB or 160GB )?

If so, should I buy it or an Ipod classic of the same capacity? Why or Why not?

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#2 BlacKJaCK2290
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There won't be a Touch with that much capacity for a LONG time. Personally i like the touch better for its design and touch interface, however if you have lots and lots of music the classic is the way to go.
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#4 Large_Soda
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I was in the same boat a little while ago. I had a 4GB Mini, but 20GB+ of music and I was annoyed that I couldn't have all of my music with me on the go, so I upgraded to a 30GB Video and that solved my problem. However as I used it, I realized that I only listened to a quarter of the music on there and that having that luxury was nice, but it was never used.

So now I have a 16GB Touch and I have chosen my most listened to music, which is about 4-7GB and that is all I need, the rest is for pictures and video.

There is a part of me however that wants a 160GB Classic instead because you can use that extra storage as an external drive and carry whatever you want on it. It's a great way to carry an OS, or a back up of stuff and you can take your friends MP3s with you when you leave their house after having tea.

Tough decision indeed.
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#5 BlacKJaCK2290
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I have a 16GB touch as well, and my music all fits on it currently. I have 1447 songs at 200-300VBR Mp3, and then 5 videos at about 50MB each and i still have 3.2GB of space left on it.
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#6 Xx_AxL_xX
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I liked the touch, too ( mostly because of the large screen for videos ). But I need a high capacity for the movies, that I'll convert from DVD's I rent ( just to make sure, I can do that with a DVD to IPOD converter thing, right???? ).

And another thing, I originally saved up for the 80 GB ( before the 160 GB came in ) . And now, the 80GB's price has went down while the 160GB has the 80's old price. Should I buy the 160 or 80? I mean I know the 160 is too much but.... I just need some opinions

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#7 Hocky27
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Get the 160, double the storage for the same price. Who cares if you dont use it all at least you got it if you do need it for whatever.
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#8 Xx_AxL_xX
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Thnx but I also need more opinions and points of view so BUMP

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#9 Large_Soda
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I liked the touch, too ( mostly because of the large screen for videos ). But I need a high capacity for the movies, that I'll convert from DVD's I rent ( just to make sure, I can do that with a DVD to IPOD converter thing, right???? ).

And another thing, I originally saved up for the 80 GB ( before the 160 GB came in ) . And now, the 80GB's price has went down while the 160GB has the 80's old price. Should I buy the 160 or 80? I mean I know the 160 is too much but.... I just need some opinions

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Ripping DVDs is illegal, but yes you can do that. You like the Touch screen, but need more storage for movies, you like he 160GB for capacity, but I think the screen size will be too small, for all of those movies you wanna watch.

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[QUOTE="Xx_AxL_xX"]

I liked the touch, too ( mostly because of the large screen for videos ). But I need a high capacity for the movies, that I'll convert from DVD's I rent ( just to make sure, I can do that with a DVD to IPOD converter thing, right???? ).

And another thing, I originally saved up for the 80 GB ( before the 160 GB came in ) . And now, the 80GB's price has went down while the 160GB has the 80's old price. Should I buy the 160 or 80? I mean I know the 160 is too much but.... I just need some opinions

Large_Soda

Ripping DVDs is illegal, but yes you can do that. You like the Touch screen, but need more storage for movies, you like he 160GB for capacity, but I think the screen size will be too small, for all of those movies you wanna watch.

Ripping DVDs that you own isn't illegal, but what he's talking about most certainly is.

The iPod touch is a wonderful PMP and over time will probably because the standard iPod over time. However, at this point, the costs are pretty drastically inflated. Apple is making about 92% profit of each if you factor out the production and materials cost. While Apple is known for taking a wide margin out for themselves, most of this likely has to do with research and development. The touch screen alone isn't enough to warrant paying $350 for a 16GB player. This is all relative of course, I own a first revision 5G iPod and already have 30GB of storage, which I've filled up, so I can't see myself paying another $350 for a smaller player.

My advice on the touch is wait until they come out with something better. Apple has more than paid for the R&D on the iPod and the design pretty much sells itself, so the unit has gone from costing $500 to $250, and capacities have skyrocketed. There's no getting around the sheer awesome bang for the buck that the iPod classic is.

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#11 Large_Soda
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[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="Xx_AxL_xX"]

I liked the touch, too ( mostly because of the large screen for videos ). But I need a high capacity for the movies, that I'll convert from DVD's I rent ( just to make sure, I can do that with a DVD to IPOD converter thing, right???? ).

And another thing, I originally saved up for the 80 GB ( before the 160 GB came in ) . And now, the 80GB's price has went down while the 160GB has the 80's old price. Should I buy the 160 or 80? I mean I know the 160 is too much but.... I just need some opinions

cricketboy2238

Ripping DVDs is illegal, but yes you can do that. You like the Touch screen, but need more storage for movies, you like he 160GB for capacity, but I think the screen size will be too small, for all of those movies you wanna watch.

Ripping DVDs that you own isn't illegal, but what he's talking about most certainly is.

The iPod touch is a wonderful PMP and over time will probably because the standard iPod over time. However, at this point, the costs are pretty drastically inflated. Apple is making about 92% profit of each if you factor out the production and materials cost. While Apple is known for taking a wide margin out for themselves, most of this likely has to do with research and development. The touch screen alone isn't enough to warrant paying $350 for a 16GB player. This is all relative of course, I own a first revision 5G iPod and already have 30GB of storage, which I've filled up, so I can't see myself paying another $350 for a smaller player.

My advice on the touch is wait until they come out with something better. Apple has more than paid for the R&D on the iPod and the design pretty much sells itself, so the unit has gone from costing $500 to $250, and capacities have skyrocketed. There's no getting around the sheer awesome bang for the buck that the iPod classic is.

Copying DVDs is a tricky aea. You are allowed to make a backup of your copy, but you aren't allowed to circumvent any copy protection that is in place. So it's a catch 22.

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#12 Xx_AxL_xX
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[QUOTE="cricketboy2238"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="Xx_AxL_xX"]

I liked the touch, too ( mostly because of the large screen for videos ). But I need a high capacity for the movies, that I'll convert from DVD's I rent ( just to make sure, I can do that with a DVD to IPOD converter thing, right???? ).

And another thing, I originally saved up for the 80 GB ( before the 160 GB came in ) . And now, the 80GB's price has went down while the 160GB has the 80's old price. Should I buy the 160 or 80? I mean I know the 160 is too much but.... I just need some opinions

Large_Soda

Ripping DVDs is illegal, but yes you can do that. You like the Touch screen, but need more storage for movies, you like he 160GB for capacity, but I think the screen size will be too small, for all of those movies you wanna watch.

Ripping DVDs that you own isn't illegal, but what he's talking about most certainly is.

The iPod touch is a wonderful PMP and over time will probably because the standard iPod over time. However, at this point, the costs are pretty drastically inflated. Apple is making about 92% profit of each if you factor out the production and materials cost. While Apple is known for taking a wide margin out for themselves, most of this likely has to do with research and development. The touch screen alone isn't enough to warrant paying $350 for a 16GB player. This is all relative of course, I own a first revision 5G iPod and already have 30GB of storage, which I've filled up, so I can't see myself paying another $350 for a smaller player.

My advice on the touch is wait until they come out with something better. Apple has more than paid for the R&D on the iPod and the design pretty much sells itself, so the unit has gone from costing $500 to $250, and capacities have skyrocketed. There's no getting around the sheer awesome bang for the buck that the iPod classic is.

Copying DVDs is a tricky aea. You are allowed to make a backup of your copy, but you aren't allowed to circumvent any copy protection that is in place. So it's a catch 22.

About the renting thing... I didn't mean rent as in its official meaning, I meant it more like as in "borrow". You see, technically I think I own the DVD's but I share them with other ppl in sort of a library ( and I don't mean like a subscription to some video store )............-_- It's a long and complicated story

Anyway.... I didn't understand the last part about the DVD copying and the "catch 22". Would you be more clear please ?

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#13 Large_Soda
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[QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="cricketboy2238"][QUOTE="Large_Soda"][QUOTE="Xx_AxL_xX"]

I liked the touch, too ( mostly because of the large screen for videos ). But I need a high capacity for the movies, that I'll convert from DVD's I rent ( just to make sure, I can do that with a DVD to IPOD converter thing, right???? ).

And another thing, I originally saved up for the 80 GB ( before the 160 GB came in ) . And now, the 80GB's price has went down while the 160GB has the 80's old price. Should I buy the 160 or 80? I mean I know the 160 is too much but.... I just need some opinions

Xx_AxL_xX

Ripping DVDs is illegal, but yes you can do that. You like the Touch screen, but need more storage for movies, you like he 160GB for capacity, but I think the screen size will be too small, for all of those movies you wanna watch.

Ripping DVDs that you own isn't illegal, but what he's talking about most certainly is.

The iPod touch is a wonderful PMP and over time will probably because the standard iPod over time. However, at this point, the costs are pretty drastically inflated. Apple is making about 92% profit of each if you factor out the production and materials cost. While Apple is known for taking a wide margin out for themselves, most of this likely has to do with research and development. The touch screen alone isn't enough to warrant paying $350 for a 16GB player. This is all relative of course, I own a first revision 5G iPod and already have 30GB of storage, which I've filled up, so I can't see myself paying another $350 for a smaller player.

My advice on the touch is wait until they come out with something better. Apple has more than paid for the R&D on the iPod and the design pretty much sells itself, so the unit has gone from costing $500 to $250, and capacities have skyrocketed. There's no getting around the sheer awesome bang for the buck that the iPod classic is.

Copying DVDs is a tricky aea. You are allowed to make a backup of your copy, but you aren't allowed to circumvent any copy protection that is in place. So it's a catch 22.

About the renting thing... I didn't mean rent as in its official meaning, I meant it more like as in "borrow". You see, technically I think I own the DVD's but I share them with other ppl in sort of a library ( and I don't mean like a subscription to some video store )............-_- It's a long and complicated story

Anyway.... I didn't understand the last part about the DVD copying and the "catch 22". Would you be more clear please ?

Well, you can make a DVD backup which is legal, but you cannot crack the copy protection. So it is a catch 22.

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#14 Xx_AxL_xX
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I'm still not sure about what you said... Can you explain? Just tell me how I can copy a DVD movie into my Ipod and what would happen to my DVD when I do? Instructions needed plz
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Unless DVD ripping applications are circumventing copyright protection on the disc in order to rip it, there's no tampering involved in converting it to a compressed format for storage or even viewing on your computer. DVDs don't have a lot of copy protection, short of the stickers that Blockbuster and other renters put on there that destroy the film on the disc surface when you try to remove them. Of course, if the MPAA and RIAA had their way, digital backups would be entirely legal because they're "unauthorized backups", but that will likely never fly in the eyes of a judge or a jury. However, this is only valid if you own said DVD. If you're borrowing DVDs from your friends or renting them from a movie renter and making copies, that's illegal no matter which way you slice it.