Mass Effect 2 difficulty - is the game too easy?

I'm only about 1.5hours into my first play through of the game but Normal seems very easy. This game is like playing Gears of War....anyway....does the game get harder or should I restart on a higher difficulty level setting?

It gets harder, but not by much. If you want a challenge go for insane :P

Since when is Mass Effect a console port?

Since when is Mass Effect a console port?

coreybg

Erm since Mass Effect 1 ? I mean it was on the xbox 360 6 months before it came out on the PC and the PC version was basically a port of the xbox 360 version. I think this game falls into the category of "console port" if you ask me.

It's definitely a console port or at least contains much consolitus.

So I assume I can change difficulty at any time or must I restart the game?

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Since when is Mass Effect a console port?

charmingcharlie

Erm since Mass Effect 1 ? I mean it was on the xbox 360 6 months before it came out on the PC and the PC version was basically a port of the xbox 360 version. I think this game falls into the category of "console port" if you ask me.

If it was a console port it would been worse and probably not optimized good enough.Still, I like both games and they were pretty good imo.

Erm not really it is just a "good" console port, but it doesn't change the fact it is a port of an Xbox 360 game and therefore incredibly limited. You can see many of the limitations in Mass Effect 2 the fact PC gamers have a 102 key joypad but we have to use 1 key to do 3 separate actions (run/cover/use). I am not complaining about the game I happen to enjoy Mass Effect, but it is clearly a console port with the gameplay aimed and geared around the joypad.

Put the difficulty up and its ALOT harder.

Normal isnt to much of a challenge, but once you pump the difficulty up it starts to get interesting and a challenge.

Erm not really it is just a "good" console port, but it doesn't change the fact it is a port of an Xbox 360 game and therefore incredibly limited. You can see many of the limitations in Mass Effect 2 the fact PC gamers have a 102 key joypad but we have to use 1 key to do 3 separate actions (run/cover/use). I am not complaining about the game I happen to enjoy Mass Effect, but it is clearly a console port with the gameplay aimed and geared around the joypad.

charmingcharlie

That's not a console port. That's being more consolized.

The game has a PC version. While a port is not a PC version.It's just the console game playable on PC with some minor tweaks such as controlls.

mass effect 1 was a much harder game that mass effect 2

It's the cover system that makes the game easy on all difficulties. With the exceptions of Krogans you're actually invincible behind cover. I'm serious, sit behind cover, go get a coffee, come back and you'll find your enemies still trying to get a shot on you.Vfanek

True but, without gover you're pretty much ***** up if you're playing on a higher difficulty.

I LOL So hard at the people even TOUCHING the casual/normal settings. Play on Veteran. It should be a challenge enough. I play on hardcore. It's pretty difficult.

And to whoever thinks the game is easy because of cover, try playing on insane. I dare you.

That's not a console port. That's being more consolized.

The game has a PC version. While a port is not a PC version.It's just the console game playable on PC with some minor tweaks such as controlls.

coreybg

I really don't know what else to say that will convince you this is a console port. The game was on on the xbox 360 first it only came to the PC 6 months later because EA bought Bioware. Hell Bioware didn't even have anything to do with the first Mass Effect 1 on the PC it was ported by Demiurge Studios. The game is a port whether you like it or not the fact it runs well is irrelevant to it being a port. The game is a port but it is a very good port and runs very will on the majority of hardware but it is still a port of an xbox 360 game.

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That's not a console port. That's being more consolized.

The game has a PC version. While a port is not a PC version.It's just the console game playable on PC with some minor tweaks such as controlls.

charmingcharlie

I really don't know what else to say that will convince you this is a console port. The game was on on the xbox 360 first it only came to the PC 6 months later because EA bought Bioware. Hell Bioware didn't even have anything to do with the first Mass Effect 1 on the PC it was ported by Demiurge Studios. The game is a port whether you like it or not the fact it runs well is irrelevant to it being a port. The game is a port but it is a very good port and runs very will on the majority of hardware but it is still a port of an xbox 360 game.

Soo, the first game didn't have a PC versoin?

What I thought was, that you think it's a port because it was on xbox first lol.

My bad then :P

P.S: It still doesn't look like a port :roll:

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Since when is Mass Effect a console port?

charmingcharlie

Erm since Mass Effect 1 ? I mean it was on the xbox 360 6 months before it came out on the PC and the PC version was basically a port of the xbox 360 version. I think this game falls into the category of "console port" if you ask me.

Soo, the first game didn't have a PC versoin?

What I thought was, that you think it's a port because it was on xbox first lol.

My bad then :P

P.S: It still doesn't look like a port :roll:

coreybg

Where did I say the first game was not on the PC ? I didn't I said that Demiurge Studios ported the 1st Mass Effect game on the PC and Bioware had very little to do with the PC VERSION. In fact if you ask a fair few PC gamers they will say that Mass Effect 1 was technically a much better port than Mass Effect 2. I know I personally think Demiurge went out of their way to try and PC'fy Mass Effect 1 whereas Bioware in their port of Mass Effect 2 paid very little attention to making it work with the PC's control interface.

The PC suffers because the franchise is nothing but a port we have fantastic hi-res facial textures but crappy low res clothes textures, we get a control scheme where we can't even use the damn scroll wheel :roll: or the second mouse button, or double clicking, We get a control scheme where we can't even select weapons with the number keys. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 1 and 2 they were both console ports. The fact the game runs well just means they were "good" console ports.

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Soo, the first game didn't have a PC versoin?

What I thought was, that you think it's a port because it was on xbox first lol.

My bad then :P

P.S: It still doesn't look like a port :roll:

charmingcharlie

Where did I say the first game was not on the PC ? I didn't I said that Demiurge Studios ported the 1st Mass Effect game on the PC and Bioware had very little to do with the PC VERSION. In fact if you ask a fair few PC gamers they will say that Mass Effect 1 was technically a much better port than Mass Effect 2. I know I personally think Demiurge went out of their way to try and PC'fy Mass Effect 1 whereas Bioware in their port of Mass Effect 2 paid very little attention to making it work with the PC's control interface.

The PC suffers because the franchise is nothing but a port we have fantastic hi-res facial textures but crappy low res clothes textures, we get a control scheme where we can't even use the damn scroll wheel :roll: or the second mouse button, or double clicking, We get a control scheme where we can't even select weapons with the number keys. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 1 and 2 they were both console ports. The fact the game runs well just means they were "good" console ports.

agreed! i couldnt even finish this game because well there were multiple reasons (read my review) but too easy was one of them

Only "PC" gamers like you would care about that kinda stuff.JangoWuzHere

Well there is your answer then, you refuse to accept that Mass Effect 2 was a port because it "feels" like a PC game ? I have to wonder what PC games you have played because I have been a PC gamer for 20 odd years and I wouldn't say Mass Effect feels like a PC game at all. At best ME 2 is a gears of war rip off with some pretty basic RPG elements using a control system that sorely neglects what is available on the PC. So I really don't see how you can claim it "plays like a PC game".

There is very little point arguing this it is pretty obvious the first Mass Effect was a port to the PC since it was on the console first, came to the PC 6 months later and wasn't even ported by Bioware. The situation with Mass Effect 2 is a bit murkier but I would say looking at the graphics and control scheme it feels like a console port. This doesn't change the fact that it is a very good game and for the most part an excellent job was done on porting both ME 1 and ME 2 but it doesn't change the fact that these can be classed as ports.

[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Soo, the first game didn't have a PC versoin?

What I thought was, that you think it's a port because it was on xbox first lol.

My bad then :P

P.S: It still doesn't look like a port :roll:

charmingcharlie

Where did I say the first game was not on the PC ? I didn't I said that Demiurge Studios ported the 1st Mass Effect game on the PC and Bioware had very little to do with the PC VERSION. In fact if you ask a fair few PC gamers they will say that Mass Effect 1 was technically a much better port than Mass Effect 2. I know I personally think Demiurge went out of their way to try and PC'fy Mass Effect 1 whereas Bioware in their port of Mass Effect 2 paid very little attention to making it work with the PC's control interface.

The PC suffers because the franchise is nothing but a port we have fantastic hi-res facial textures but crappy low res clothes textures, we get a control scheme where we can't even use the damn scroll wheel :roll: or the second mouse button, or double clicking, We get a control scheme where we can't even select weapons with the number keys. As much as I enjoy Mass Effect 1 and 2 they were both console ports. The fact the game runs well just means they were "good" console ports.

Umm there is a difference between a PC version and a console port. The first ME may have been a port, but 2 had a PC version.

Umm there is a difference between a PC version and a console port. The first ME may have been a port, but 2 had a PC version.

coreybg

OK we get it you don't think it was a port coreybg, this may come as a shock but a lot of other people do think both ME 1 and ME 2 are ports. The fact is we will never know, if you ask Bioware they are hardly going to go "oh yeah we concentrated on the xbox 360 and just ported it to the PC". Whatever you want to call it the xbox 360 version was Bioware's focus and the PC version was an afterthought as witnessed by the fact Demiurge Studios did a better job catering for the PC interface than Bioware did.

There is a DIFFERENCE between a PC version and a CONSOLE port

And Mass Effect 2 is NOT ported.

What people think is irrelivant in this matter.

If you can't understand that I'd suggest you don't make stupid uninformed agruments.

There is a DIFFERENCE between a PC version and a CONSOLE port

And Mass Effect 2 is NOT ported.

What people think is irrelivant in this matter.

If you can't understand that I'd suggest you don't make stupid uninformed agruments.

coreybg

we really need a "bang your head against your desk" emoticon for this board. Fine coreybg you want to keep telling yourself that then feel free, it is after all what YOU THINK but then you just said "what people think" is irrelevent. I think it is a fair comment to say both versions are ports to the PC you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about that. However it doesn't change the fact the first ME was definitely a port and there is good reason to believe the second one was a port too.

Could someone PLEASE just tell him Mass Effect 2 is NOT ported. Otherwise I'm done trying to explain something obvious to ignorant people.

Could someone PLEASE just tell him Mass Effect 2 is NOT ported. Otherwise I'm done trying to explain something obvious to ignorant people.

coreybg

The only one being ignorant here is you, you just keep screaming "it's not a port it's not a port, someone tell him it's not a port". Then you carry on by insulting me and calling me ignorant you aren't exactly doing much for your case here. As I said Mass Effect 1 was most definitely a port there is absolutely NO DOUBT about that. The case with Mass Effect 2 is slightly murkier, but there are indications within the game that suggest it was merely a port of the xbox 360 version with lip service paid to the control scheme on the PC.

The thing you are completely missing is the fact it is totally irrelevant whether the game was a port or not. What matters is it was a "GOOD" game, it was an enjoyable game regardless of whether it was a port or not a port.

You post 3 times saying ME2 is a port and suddenly the what we're talking about is whether it's good or not?

And if it's a port, why can't you use a controller on it?

Well I have to confess I didn't expect any one to actually drag this argument on and on and on. In my first post I believe I even praised the game and said it was a good game. As for the controller support probably find Bioware couldn't be bothered to port the controller code over to the PC :P and felt that PC gamers would be happy with a limited mouse and keyboard interface.

Let's just leave it at "you think it isn't a port and I think it is a port" there how about that. As for the actual topic in hand, I would say the game is very easy especially on the lower settings but "insane" does provide a reasonable challenge to those that want it. I have seen people say that "insane" was a lot harder in ME 1 than it is in ME 2 but I think that could be down to the fact things were "clunkier" in ME 1.

On insane it's challenging enough for me, anything below and the only challenging parts are when you're being cornered and forced out of cover by tank-like units. That's the problem with games that use cover as a core gameplay I suppose.

Let's just leave it at "you think it isn't a port and I think it is a port"

charmingcharlie

Best post on this thread...cheers to you sir

Back on topic...

I found Mass Effect 1 pretty easy on normal. The last boss fight was some what difficult, but I found it to an enjoyable setting.

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[QUOTE="coreybg"]

Since when is Mass Effect a console port?

coreybg

Erm since Mass Effect 1 ? I mean it was on the xbox 360 6 months before it came out on the PC and the PC version was basically a port of the xbox 360 version. I think this game falls into the category of "console port" if you ask me.

If it was a console port it would been worse and probably not optimized good enough.Still, I like both games and they were pretty good imo.

ME1 was ported over, although Demiurge did a great job with the port. ME2 was developed simultaneously on both the PC and 360. Bioware wanted both versions of the game to feel the same.

And yes, I found the game very easy.

Honestly why do you guys care so much if it's a port or not? Both games are more enjoyable on the PC and that's all that matters :)the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Enjoyable? fairly so yes. Could of been much better had it been designed on PC first? definitely yes. That's why it matters.

Back OT, seems you CAN change difficulty at any time, so I'll just play around with a few settings and see what is a fun challenge.

I'm only about 1.5hours into my first play through of the game but Normal seems very easy. This game is like playing Gears of War....anyway....does the game get harder or should I restart on a higher difficulty level setting?

VeryBumpy

difficulty option is there for a reason; restart the game with Hardcore or Insanity. from there, most enemies will be shielded or armored, or both. some melee charger goons are cakes on normal, but lethal on Hardcore and Insanity.

agreed! i couldnt even finish this game because well there were multiple reasons (read my review) but too easy was one of them

MaddogQ80

played it on Insanity?

as for the port thing: ME IS a port since were EA bought Bioware, we wouldn't have seen a PC version.

ME2 is a multiplaformer very much like most so-called AAA titles these days.

Fairly easy, and I absolutely hate most of the "streamlining" they did to the game. Limited outfit selection? Limited weapon selection and progression? Worthless stat leveling? I though this was supposed to be an RPG, not an action adventure.General_X

Fairly easy, and I absolutely hate most of the "streamlining" they did to the game. Limited outfit selection? Limited weapon selection and progression? Worthless stat leveling? I though this was supposed to be an RPG, not an action adventure.General_X

I was quite peeved when I saw how they redid their inventory/equipment system. The game went from action/rpg hybrid to pure action with a few clicks at the end of every levell.

And yes, the game was far too easy even on insanity. There is a distinct difference between challenging and "chore". ME2 insanity fell into the latter. When you increased the difficulty, it wasn't the AI that was adapting to your skill but rather it was yourself adapting to higher hp enemies. The routine remained the same, pop out of cover, headshot (I played as infiltrator), hide and the occasional cloak. It just became a lot more repetitive since enemies were more durable.

One difficulty level higher and you'll have a much harder time, especially near the end.

[QUOTE="General_X"]Fairly easy, and I absolutely hate most of the "streamlining" they did to the game. Limited outfit selection? Limited weapon selection and progression? Worthless stat leveling? I though this was supposed to be an RPG, not an action adventure.JigglyWiggly_

Oblivion, a true WRPG? There is more RPG"ing in Mass Effect games than in Oblivion that is for sure. the_ChEeSe_mAn2

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Oblivion, a true WRPG? There is more RPG"ing in Mass Effect games than in Oblivion that is for sure. General_X

[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Oblivion, a true WRPG? There is more RPG"ing in Mass Effect games than in Oblivion that is for sure. the_ChEeSe_mAn2