Maximum CPU !!!

Hello all.

I have a Quad Core Q6600, GTX470 and 8GB of RAM.

I just upgraded to a 27'' monitor, so went from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080, and my PC struggles a bit on BF3 (which it didn't before on my old 22'' monitor 1680x1050).

Could it be my CPU is bottlenecking?

If so what's the highest (fastest) CPU I can install on this mainboard?

ASUS P5N32E-SLI

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5N32E_SLI/

Thanks.

Hello all.

I have a Quad Core Q6600, GTX470 and 8GB of RAM.

I just upgraded to a 27'' monitor, so went from 1680x1050 to 1920x1080, and my PC struggles a bit on BF3 (which it didn't before on my old 22'' monitor 1680x1050).

Could it be my CPU is bottlenecking?

If so what's the highest (fastest) CPU I can install on this mainboard?

ASUS P5N32E-SLI

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5N32E_SLI/

Thanks.

FelipeInside

if its running stock maybe the q6600 is a good overclocking chip what heat sink you using

There's nothing on 775 that's worth upgrading to from a Q6600. Either overclock it as high as you can, or go 1155.

And what's with the thread title... I expected to see someone freaking out about 100% CPU usage, lol.

I'm betting on a bottleneck there. Try overclocking the CPU. The Q6600 overclocks really well.

And what's with the thread title... I expected to see someone freaking out about 100% CPU usage, lol.

C_Rule

I'm betting on a bottleneck there. Try overclocking the CPU. The Q6600 overclocks really well.

Lox_Cropek

Only the g0 stepping does, the other ones are a little iffy.

If increasing the resolution slows things down, that's normally due to the GPU, but it might also be that your cpu can't give the gpu all the data it needs fast enough.

Try overclocking.

The cost of getting a i5 2500k with a nice MB and 8GB ram is a lot less than trying to find a C2Q Q9650, believe me!acanofcoke

BF3 at 1080p? Try turning down the graphics settings and see if your performance increases. If so then your GPU is the problem, not your CPU.

You said that you got a higher resolution monitor and then the problems began. It is more likely that your GPU is causing the problem.

TC its not your cpu, you would have experienced the same problem at 1680x1050 as with 1080 if it was your cpu. The problem is your gpu and your game settings, do what I posted above and that should fix it. 04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]TC its not your cpu, you would have experienced the same problem at 1680x1050 as with 1080 if it was your cpu. The problem is your gpu and your game settings, do what I posted above and that should fix it. FelipeInside

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]TC its not your cpu, you would have experienced the same problem at 1680x1050 as with 1080 if it was your cpu. The problem is your gpu and your game settings, do what I posted above and that should fix it. Lox_Cropek

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Oh really? I just thought going from 1680x1050 (where it worked fine) to 1920x1080 the CPU was starting to be a bottleneck. Why? Because I thought the GTX 470 OC is a strong card? But hope ur are right, cause I don't want to upgrade my CPU. I want this machine to hold on until I get a new build. I will test those settings you mentioned and get back to you. Thanks for helping. PS: if this doesn't work, I guess a new GPU is in order?FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]A bottleneck could still be holding the GPU's potential, though.

Lox_Cropek

That CPU @ 2.4Ghz is holding it back, just get the hyper 212+ and give it 800Mhz-1Ghz OC and it'll be fine, I had a similar rig, just OC'ed and same with GPU.

Problem is that the TC didnt have issues at 1680x1050 correct? and when he went to 1080 his issues started, its clearly a gpu prone issue because at 1680x1050 he would have had the same problem at 1080 if his cpu is the cause. going from 1050 to 1080 is nearly a 20% more load on gpu not cpu, Getting a new faster will help some but its not the root of the problem, a GTX 470 is slightly slower then a GTX 560ti. to run BF3 on ultra without major issue you need more 1.2gb and a gtx 470 at 1080. Even with a cpu upgrade your going to run into stuttering if you vram and gpu is at its limit. 04dcarraher

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

Bikouchu35

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Problem is that the TC didnt have issues at 1680x1050 correct? and when he went to 1080 his issues started, its clearly a gpu prone issue because at 1680x1050 he would have had the same problem at 1080 if his cpu is the cause. going from 1050 to 1080 is nearly a 20% more load on gpu not cpu, Getting a new faster will help some but its not the root of the problem, a GTX 470 is slightly slower then a GTX 560ti. to run BF3 on ultra without major issue you need more 1.2gb and a gtx 470 at 1080. Even with a cpu upgrade your going to run into stuttering if you vram and gpu is at its limit. FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Problem is that the TC didnt have issues at 1680x1050 correct? and when he went to 1080 his issues started, its clearly a gpu prone issue because at 1680x1050 he would have had the same problem at 1080 if his cpu is the cause. going from 1050 to 1080 is nearly a 20% more load on gpu not cpu, Getting a new faster will help some but its not the root of the problem, a GTX 470 is slightly slower then a GTX 560ti. to run BF3 on ultra without major issue you need more 1.2gb and a gtx 470 at 1080. Even with a cpu upgrade your going to run into stuttering if you vram and gpu is at its limit. 04dcarraher

TC set your BF3 settings to high textures, use SSAO and no AA, and if you see less stuttering or its fixed then you know where your issue is. And use memory resources monitor to watch your vram and system usage. Also you could do the Q6600 tape mod to get that cpu to 3ghz

TC set your BF3 settings to high textures, use SSAO and no AA, and if you see less stuttering or its fixed then you know where your issue is. Also you could do the Q6600 tape mod to get that cpu to 3ghz

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] So upgrading for example to a GTX670 would mostly improve everything correct? It's a big step from a 470 to a 670 isn't it? Isn't 8GB of RAM enough?FelipeInside

Bottom line: you need a new cpu.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Now if you upgrade to a GTX 670 you will see a good improvement but you will never see what your suppose to get because of your Q6600 at 2.4 ghz. Which would be a real bottleneck.As long as you have more then 4gb of system memory yes its enough.

Lox_Cropek

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

04dcarraher

Was ahead of you thar, I already experimented that with 4gb this setup some stuttering but still much smoother than before. Im surprised by that. Im a bit puzzled as to you mentioning HT, I dont have HT in either cpu, obviously.

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I guess I can always get the 670 and then later down the track upgrade the rest of my PC? As long as I can play for a couple of more years. 670 is future proof for a few years anyway...FelipeInside

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

Bikouchu35

Was ahead of you thar, I already experimented that with 4gb this setup some stuttering but still much smoother than before. Im surprised by that. Im a bit puzzled as to you mentioning HT, I dont have HT in either cpu, obviously.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]Actually, I think the first thing you should upgrade is your CPU. If you buy a new GPU, the difference might be small due to a bottleneck.

Lox_Cropek

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] But people have have stated that it's not worth upgrading the CPU, since it would cost around AU$150-$200 (from eBay). Just save up, maybe get a new GPU and then down the line upgrade the whole PC (keeping the 670).FelipeInside

Overclock your processor (and watch out for temps). Just don't change the voltage.

Also, you have two monitors plugged in? Unplug one.

For a 470, try High settings without MSAA; use FXAA instead.

Just done some googling.

It seems it is indeed the cpu is the cause base of other users.

*picts!* I know is not bf3, but the comparison is relative.

i5-2500k... GPU usage is at 99%, CPU usage is ~70%...

Q9650... GPU usage CPU bottlenecked at 60%, CPU is at ~85%...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1592732

I'd say overclock your cpu and see what happens. Despite the cooler, try 2.8-3ghz plus gpu overclock can bring a little oomph for more stable frames.

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

Bikouchu35

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

The game stopped stuttering for me since I upgrade my cpu q6700 > 2500k, bf3. Average frames didnt change dramatically, but is the drop spikes that forced me to lower the settings and I also had less ram.

FelipeInside

Here are some facts that should help guide your decision-

-A Q6600 at the stock 2.4ghz isn't enough for some games. BF3 is one of them, especially in multiplayer. Overclocking your CPU to 3ghz or higher will eliminate much of the issue. You will get better performance by upgrading to a more recent CPU, but I wouldn't call it a necessary upgrade.

-A GTX 470 isn't enough GPU to push BF3 at max or near max settings at 1080p or higher.

So really what you're running into is 2 problems TC. The fact that you were able to get what you considered to be acceptable performance at 1680x1050, but no longer can at a higher resolution is clear evidence of your GPU choking on that game at the higher resolution/settings. This has nothing to do with your CPU. Your CPU doesn't work any harder running at game at 1080p than it does at a lower resolution. Your GPU handles that increased workload. So let's put to bed the myths about needing a faster CPU to run at a higher resolution. In fact, most visual detail settings are completely GPU-dependent.

Here are some facts that should help guide your decision-

-A Q6600 at the stock 2.4ghz isn't enough for some games. BF3 is one of them, especially in multiplayer. Overclocking your CPU to 3ghz or higher will eliminate much of the issue. You will get better performance by upgrading to a more recent CPU, but I wouldn't call it a necessary upgrade.

-A GTX 470 isn't enough GPU to push BF3 at max or near max settings at 1080p or higher.

So really what you're running into is 2 problems TC. The fact that you were able to get what you considered to be acceptable performance at 1680x1050, but no longer can at a higher resolution is clear evidence of your GPU choking on that game at the higher resolution/settings. This has nothing to do with your CPU. Your CPU doesn't work any harder running at game at 1080p than it does at a lower resolution. Your GPU handles that increased workload. So let's put to bed the myths about needing a faster CPU to run at a higher resolution. In fact, most visual detail settings are completely GPU-dependent.

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Here are some facts that should help guide your decision-

-A Q6600 at the stock 2.4ghz isn't enough for some games. BF3 is one of them, especially in multiplayer. Overclocking your CPU to 3ghz or higher will eliminate much of the issue. You will get better performance by upgrading to a more recent CPU, but I wouldn't call it a necessary upgrade.

-A GTX 470 isn't enough GPU to push BF3 at max or near max settings at 1080p or higher.

So really what you're running into is 2 problems TC. The fact that you were able to get what you considered to be acceptable performance at 1680x1050, but no longer can at a higher resolution is clear evidence of your GPU choking on that game at the higher resolution/settings. This has nothing to do with your CPU. Your CPU doesn't work any harder running at game at 1080p than it does at a lower resolution. Your GPU handles that increased workload. So let's put to bed the myths about needing a faster CPU to run at a higher resolution. In fact, most visual detail settings are completely GPU-dependent.

FelipeInside

Absolutely. However you will still only get a portion of the performance that a GTX 670 is capable of providing, because a 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad isn't a sufficient data pipeline to feed such a powerful GPU. It will help you greatly to overclock that CPU or get a new one.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Here are some facts that should help guide your decision-

-A Q6600 at the stock 2.4ghz isn't enough for some games. BF3 is one of them, especially in multiplayer. Overclocking your CPU to 3ghz or higher will eliminate much of the issue. You will get better performance by upgrading to a more recent CPU, but I wouldn't call it a necessary upgrade.

-A GTX 470 isn't enough GPU to push BF3 at max or near max settings at 1080p or higher.

So really what you're running into is 2 problems TC. The fact that you were able to get what you considered to be acceptable performance at 1680x1050, but no longer can at a higher resolution is clear evidence of your GPU choking on that game at the higher resolution/settings. This has nothing to do with your CPU. Your CPU doesn't work any harder running at game at 1080p than it does at a lower resolution. Your GPU handles that increased workload. So let's put to bed the myths about needing a faster CPU to run at a higher resolution. In fact, most visual detail settings are completely GPU-dependent.

hartsickdiscipl

Absolutely. However you will still only get a portion of the performance that a GTX 670 is capable of providing, because a 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad isn't a sufficient data pipeline to feed such a powerful GPU. It will help you greatly to overclock that CPU or get a new one.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Ok, a few different opinions here....very confusing. In your case, if I get a GTX 670 then it should be able to handle the higher resolution load better?FelipeInside

Absolutely. However you will still only get a portion of the performance that a GTX 670 is capable of providing, because a 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad isn't a sufficient data pipeline to feed such a powerful GPU. It will help you greatly to overclock that CPU or get a new one.

I suspect that most of your games will run just fine on an overclocked GTX 470 at 1080p.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Absolutely. However you will still only get a portion of the performance that a GTX 670 is capable of providing, because a 2.4ghz Core 2 Quad isn't a sufficient data pipeline to feed such a powerful GPU. It will help you greatly to overclock that CPU or get a new one.

hartsickdiscipl

I suspect that most of your games will run just fine on an overclocked GTX 470 at 1080p.