Microsoft: PC Gaming Still a Priority

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#1 Lgy
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With the closure of internal studios Aces and Ensemble, and the firing of Games for Windows--Live boss Chris Early, it's reasonable to question Microsoft's commitment to PC gaming.

But on Tuesday, the company attempted to assure the games industry that it still believes in PC gaming, even in light of stronger performance from Xbox 360.

"Moving ahead, Microsoft will continue to invest in Windows as a first–class gaming platform through great Windows out of box experiences, our online gaming services including Games for Windows – LIVE, MSN Games, and Messenger games, and through new games for Windows developed by Microsoft Games Studios," said a rep for the company in a statement to Edge.

Microsoft Game Studios' stable includes Turn 10 (Forza), Lionhead (Fable) and Rare (Banjo).

In recent years, Microsoft has closed multiple internal studios, many with a PC focus, including FASA Interactive (Mechwarrior, Shadowrun) and most recently, Ensemble (Age of Empires) and Aces (Flight Sim).

Microsoft said that Windows gaming will now continue under two execs: "Our Windows gaming service efforts will be led by General Manager Ron Pessner, who is joining Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business. He comes from within Microsoft's Entertainment & Devices Division.

"Working closely with Ron will be Dave Luehmann, a long time Microsoft games veteran and general manager within Microsoft Games Studios, who will now be overseeing internal development and publishing for all Windows-based games."

A rep added that Pessner will not be directly replacing Chris Early. "His responsibilities will include Games for Windows – LIVE, as well as certain other areas within IEB."

http://www.edge-online.com/news/microsoft-pc-gaming-still-a-priority

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Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.
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#3 MadCat46
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I'd like to believe them but man, all these PC exclusive studios and then you fire the man leading the thing you claimed was meant to save PC gaming with a man who has several responsibilities. Have to excuse me if I find this just a little hard to swallow.
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#4 naval
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Can someone inform MS that Actions speaks louder than words ....i.e., all this nonsense they are spouting is a nonsense unless they prove it by some actions
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#5 Baranga
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With the firing of Games for Windows--Live boss Chris Early, it's reasonable to question Microsoft's commitment to PC gaming.

Lgy

No, it's the other way around actually.

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#6 Jade_Monkey
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Microsoft's mouth is saying we are a priority but the bulk of their actions say differently.
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.

3. and for the love of GOD! Get rid of Games For Windows Live. It's annoying trash.
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Hmm... ...tick my name as "Unconvinced".
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#9 Jade_Monkey
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I was just talking with my room mate about this and we came to the conclusion that Microsoft saying PC gaming is still a priority despite all they have done is kind of like a husband telling his wife how much he loves her as he beats the crap out of her.
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.

i agree lok anyone thinks that they might use halo 3 for pc exclusively on windows 7 :lol:
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"][QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.

3. and for the love of GOD! Get rid of Games For Windows Live. It's annoying trash.

yeah that too "i feel like i jumped into a bloody x360 here"
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.Hellboard
i agree lok anyone thinks that they might use halo 3 for pc exclusively on windows 7 :lol:

I could see them doing that. I doubt the Halo 2 fiasco would teach them their lesson.

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[QUOTE="Hellboard"][QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.Jade_Monkey

i agree lok anyone thinks that they might use halo 3 for pc exclusively on windows 7 :lol:

I could see them doing that. I doubt the Halo 2 fiasco would teach them their lesson.

yeah sighhhh or they do it with gear of war 2... i bet they are so cheap bastards that, that might be the pc gears of war 2 they are talking about...
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#14 eva89
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i dont even need them saying this, just want to see their actions only. actions speak louder than words.
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.Swiftstrike5
3. and for the love of GOD! Get rid of Games For Windows Live. It's annoying trash.

Agree.
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They said nothing, at least nothing new. I could care less about them changing out their execs; doesn't automatically mean things will improve. Here's how you improve GFWL:

1. Go back in time and realize that the last time PC gamers payed to play multiplayer was around 1998, when people used services like TEN and M-Player to play Duke Nukem 3D. Thinking you can dupe us into paying a monthly fee after nearly a decade of free play is just insulting. It matters not that they eventually waved the fee for the gold account. Damage done.You lost our respect.

2. Do not make GFWL look like the xbox dashboard, and realize that PC gamers do not need nor care about it how it works with xbox live. Take the color-coded buttons off the menu windows; nobody plays Fallout 3 on the PC with a gamepad.

3. Don't try to bring the xbox live experience to the PC. Instead, realize that the PC is capable of far more. Use this as an opportunity to maybe, possibly, you know....innovate?

In other words, make it like steam.

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#17 Jd1680a
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Ensembles studios is set to be closed this September. If anyone remembers, Ensembles studios produced the Age of Empire series and Age of Mythology all put on the PC. Its hard to believe Microsoft is so committed to PC gaming.
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They say one thing then do another.

I call BS, Microsoft doesn't give a damn about PC gaming , not when they cannot milk licensing fees like they can from 360.

In the end I think Microsoft are being idiotic treating PC gaming the way they do. Windows and Windows related products are Microsofts primary source of income, 360 is only starting to be profitable, what is the one thing Windows does that the competition cannot replicate? Without gaming Mac and Linux OS's are valid alternatives.

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#19 Hellboard
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Agreed with the dragon above me.... i want more pc games and no windows live
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#20 justheretodl124
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Cant blame them if all I wanted was a quick profit i'd make games for the xbox not because of piracy but because xbox owners have a lower standard for quality and seem to think hype=game magically fun.
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#21 wackys
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I call BS,Microsoft haven't given a fart about PC gaming since Xbox 360 got released.
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"][QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.

3. and for the love of GOD! Get rid of Games For Windows Live. It's annoying trash.

Perfect!
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.Swiftstrike5
3. and for the love of GOD! Get rid of Games For Windows Live. It's annoying trash.

agreed its an absolute joke and a slap in the face for every legitimate pc gamer out there

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[QUOTE="Hellboard"][QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.Jade_Monkey

i agree lok anyone thinks that they might use halo 3 for pc exclusively on windows 7 :lol:

I could see them doing that. I doubt the Halo 2 fiasco would teach them their lesson.

You see...they did all wrong with Halo 2. Halo 2 should have been released on DX9 for XP - period. This way you get PC gamers that liked the first Halo, but don't have a 360, and want Halo 2 to pick up a copy. They should have marketed Halo 2 for $29.99 on PC - they would have sold....I would have bought a copy eventually. I don't have a 360, but I have played all the Halo games (partly because of my little brother that owns them all on his 360). I didn't care too much for Halo 2, but I would have added it to my collection.

Now, Microsoft's next step would be to make it public knowledge that Halo 3 would be released on 360 and PC on the same day. However, you need DX10 to play it on PC - thus forcing people to want the next installment on PC to pick up Vista.

Vista was officially released to the public Jan. 30, 2007. Halo 3 was released on 360 Sept. 25, 2007. That's nearly an 8 month span in time between Vista going public and Halo 3. With that knowledge in mind....

Microsoft should have pushed Vista's release date to July 2007, thus allowing better drivers to be created and more time to iron out problems. Now, people have a good 2-3 months to upgrade to Vista and pick up DX10 compatible graphic cards.

For those hardcore gamers that want the best and wanted Halo 3 on PC because they lothe the 360....this would have been the best route for Microsoft to go to get the best bang out of Vista and DX10.

But Microsoft screwed up and screwed themselves. I don't want to sound like some inconsiderate prick but whoever decided to push Vista out the door and try to make Halo 2 a selling point for Vista and DX10....well, I hope they got fired for doing such a piss-poor job marketing their products. If it was Gates....he should have resigned and given up his rights to Microsoft. Just a bunch of morons working over there at times....you think they'd learn.

I'm done with my rant, thanks for reading!

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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Two things need to happen for me to believe this. 1. Microsoft would need to release all of its Xbox 360 titles on the PC on the same day. 2. Develop or publish games exclusively on the PC something like Dungeon Siege games.Swiftstrike5
3. and for the love of GOD! Get rid of Games For Windows Live. It's annoying trash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBzcxisbbco

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if i was to fill this post with the amount of laughing i have just done i would run out of posting room. i have made my position on MSs support for PC gaming over the last few years very clear in other posts so im not going to typ it all again. i hope you knock me off my feet MS...i hope you proove me oh so very wrong. but sacking ure PC devs, moving ure other PC devs to console development and releasing nothing for the PC is telling us alot more about ure priorties. i will just say the usual again. Sony (who make no bones about it...they want the PC good and dead..replaced with sony systems in the home) and nintendo (who barely acknowledge that the PC exists) have done more good for PC gaming over the last 5-6 years than MS. sony...yknow...actually make PC games and nintendo dont undermine it left right and center. im deadly serious when i say that...thats not a joke. sony and nintendo do more good for the PC and PC gaming. as far as PC gaming is concerned, MS are nothing short of a disgrace...a laughing stock and a running joke. they are, without question, one of the biggest detractors from the PC for the last 5-6 years. if the PC was the 360 and MS were providing it this kind of "support" then the PC would be completly dead and buried. thankfully the PC and PC gaming doesent need MS to tick along nicely.
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#28 AnnoyedDragon
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well in their defense I see what they are saying. Basically....what other OS is there that is more devoted to gamers....ever?.

The problems we have are games themselves rather than the platform itself and again, in their defense, they dont make games they game platforms for games to run. Its not their fault developers do not want the PC.

SEANMCAD

They must not want the PS3 or 360 either, your logic not mine.

I'm getting weary of people looking at the state of gaming as if it is anti PC, what we have here is an increasingly anti exclusive market; were PC/PS3/360 titles dominate. People who interpret that as being consoles > PC, when the console orientation is from the lowest common denominator targeting and not favouritism, I have to suspect of coming from some sort of bias.

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#29 biggest_loser
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People are also committed to Communism. Enough said. But seriously folks, MSN Games? I find that insulting. GFW is useless - I couldn't even get that to work with Fallout 3 - I clicked on the Live button and it was like a toggle. It did nothing. Despite this I will give MS one last chance this year. And it comes in the form of a game called Alan Wake. MS is meant to be publishing this. I expect an amazing game, not a bad port, or even a port at all.
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#30 redneckdouglas
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First step:

WINDOWS gaming OS. It will run nothing but gaming/hardware-related softwares. 8)

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#31 napp123
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I bet windows 8 will only support a xbox gamepad

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#32 wii_123
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I call BS,Microsoft haven't given a fart about PC gaming since Xbox got released.wackys
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