Microsoft pushing WIN 10 on Win 7 & 8 Users?

This might've been adressed elsewhere on this forum, though I didn't find any results during the search, and some might say it suits more the PC section rather then off topic. In which case I'd assume a Moderator might move it.

For a good amount of months now, We who're still using the Windows 7 operative system or Windows 8, have had the more or less daily pop-up from Microsoft in our toolbar to " Upgrade now to Windows 10". Though a irritating thing it was simply something to click away.

Any why not upgrade to windows 10?, I can only speak for myself but I prefer to let a new operative system settle so when I do get it in about a year or two, the worst bugs and such would've been fixed. Not to mention to see if it's a operative system I'd like and where more of the programs I already use has begun to support it.

And then I got word from a friend and did a google search to find something I'm not exactly jumping of joy over.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3024278/windows/you-will-upgrade-to-windows-10-inside-microsofts-strong-arm-upgrade-tactics.html

For those that don't want to click on a link, I will provide you with a direct quote from the article. Which you could verify with a google search.

Microsoft plans to push through the initial Windows 10 installation as a Recommended update sometime in 2016. (UPDATE: The push began on February 1.) That means Windows 10 will automatically download itself onto any computer that has Windows Update configured to install Recommended updates by default—in other words, the overwhelming majority of consumer PCs in the wild. That’s the default setting for new Windows installs, and the one that most tech experts (ourselves included) recommend that everyday people use.

Fortunately, when Microsoft flips the switch and pushes Windows 10 through as a Recommended update, Windows 8.1 PCs won’t automatically download updates over a metered connection. But Windows 7 users will have to turn off automatic downloads for all Recommended updates to avoid downloading multiple gigabytes’ worth of operating system. And unless you’re religious about manually installing critical updates, disabling Recommended updates will leave your computer vulnerable to some of the nastiest exploits floating around the web. Thanks, Microsoft.

Now Windows 10 might very well be better then Windows 7 & 8, But being essentially forced to install it or otherwise risk a potential exploit cause you missed a security update because you now need to install them all manually? I'm not a huge fan in being ordered to get something just because they want me to.

Even the largers supporters of the new operative system has to admit, this does leave a sour taste.

What do you think?

@Treflis: I have moved the topic to the PC/Mac/Linux Society Forum.

Edit: Now to leave a proper comment on this.

I don't like MS doing this. Updates on Win 10 has in general given me more headaches than updates on Win7 that I used before. After every update I've had the last few months, there has been something that didn't work as it should after the update has been installed or something has been uninstalled. It's nice when an update says that program X is no longer compatible, however there is no point in uninstalling it.

That's why I only install security updates on Win7, don't want to get nagged to death to downgrade.

@horgen: Which is exactly why I'd rather wait a year or so before I make an upgrade. So such issues can be resolved and by the time I jump into it the majority of issues have been adressed.

In my opinion and view, What Microsoft is doing is more or less going " Look, we're been pestering you with getting Windows 10 for months now and you haven't, so now you will get Windows 10 wether you like it or not. And if you don't then good luck keeping your system updated so malware or ransomware don't get into your system."

Or as my friend said it. It's Microsoft essentially going " Free Puppy, Free Puppy, get rid of your old mongrel and take this free puppy!"

@Treflis: I don't see the "Win has uninstalled program X" going away after a few updates. I can see the reason behind doing so, though I personally wish it was handled a bit different.

i dont agree with forcing to people to upgrade, or bothering them to upgrade.

the best way for microsft to handle this is through their terms of service agrrement/license, simply let the life cycle support time run out and then no longer support the old os with security patches and updates, while continuing to make windows ten even better, eventually software and hardware partners will simply stop of their accord supporting the old os as well.

let customers continue using old os at their own risk.

MS can kiss my ass with regards w10 until each and every single piece of spyware is taken out or can be fully and completely disabled by the user, im not having them spy on me and decide what i can and cant have on my own PC.

It baffles me why so many folk want w10 when its a well known fact its a means to spy on the people of the world and then hand all info over to various agencies the world over, **** YOU MS.

thats what they did...but given that only now companies/people are movinmg on from XP .... I can see why they want to get rid of that legacy crap ... 10 year support after the fact is ridiculous..... this industry moves too fast.

The spying part has been added to win 7 and win 8 in updates later on.

ms offered extended support for xp up to 2014, so not srprised companies are taking too long to switch over as businesses always look for ways to maximize profits by taking the cheap way out when it comes to capital.

ms offered support for windows 7 up to 2020, thats the deal they made with customers as part of purchase agreement, so ms can't turn around now free or not and annoy them with windows 10 upgrade notices, simply let the support time run out and charge them $100 for windows 10. ms created their own problems not the customers.

@horgen: I agree. I have had to reinstall windows 10 3 different times because each install either broke nvidia updating or broke my security scanner. 3rd times the charm I guess.

Indeed. I noticed in the last few months, every night there's a process that starts up and starts collecting a ton of info off my HDD, which I assume is then sent right to Microsoft. It's scary because my HDD isn't even my OS drive, so I'm guessing Microsoft is probably surveying everything on everyone's system.

Get used to it, the future is here and big powerful companies like Microsoft and Google are now making decisions for us (yeah, that sucks).

On a side note, I recently moved from W7 to W10, and while the new OS seems to be faster and better (in certain aspects) than the previous one, there's an issue with the start menu and taskbar getting stuck whenever they want (and MS is not doing anything to fix it). That's a real bummer.

@KHAndAnime: name of said process? I havent checked myself but I am sure I have it as well.

Microsoft Telemetry Host Service or something like that. I just found how to stop it here.

Don't mind. It just business people what suffer. Think win 10 is best upgrade Microsoft has done since windows 7. Having no issues and not had one windows explorer error on desktop since upgrading.. Unless they put something in win 7 updates to make do that as it was only after a certain time it started as did a couple of clean installs and after a couple of days (updates later) it started with the error. Since windows 10 no problem. Games run smooth too and even older games still work..

forced updates is the main thing i can't stand. not having control of what is installed really is something i can't have. Plus i have so many different pcs and other devices, if they were all automatically updating without any control it'd send my internet into overusage so much. Even just last month i almost hit the cap because there was 1 device i had that has windows 10 on it and it downloaded some large update i wasn't expecting and put on over 2 gbs of usage.

Hopefully in a few years when i have no other choice but to use win10, it'll have the update method changed so you can pick and choose what to download. Also hopefully it will be compatible with all my older games, because even in this area i doubt it will be.

Unless u need dx12 for something i dont see the point of windows 10 if your windows 7 is working good.

Make dual boot. Everything solved. YOU ARE WELCOME. Although i think the forced upgrade doesn't necessarily have that option?

I need to keep Win 7 myself too as second OS, since i use various software that don't have Win 10 support.