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#1 grongo2
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Thoughts?

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#2 grongo2
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INSANE, I know, but right now they're having a sale on a machine that seems right up my alley:

Until this Thursday, I can get 418$ off the Studio XPS 8100 build listed on their site.

Since I need a monitor as well (included!), this seems like a really good deal. My question to you guys is what kind of gaming performance can I expect out of the setup given, and what upgrades offered would be wise to take (video card, et cetera).


Thanks!

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The thing is there are many options, even if you pick from the three base models there are major differences.
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#4 wooooode
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The $1150 one comes with a GTS240 which will get the job done. If you can knock $400 off it would be worth it.
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#5 grongo2
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That's the one I was considering. How upgradeable are they?

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#6 JigglyWiggly_
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I don't dislike Dells, go for a lowend one with a decent cpu, and good amounts of ram. Then put a good videocard in it, it will be around the same price as a DIY. DO NOT buy a gaming one, those are rip offs.
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#7 polarwrath11
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Your paying over $1000 and ending up with a GTS240? Sorry but that seems inefficient.
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#8 grongo2
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Just saw they have the Alienware Aurora on sale for 1500 today only...decisions!

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Just saw they have the Alienware Aurora on sale for 1500 today only...decisions! grongo2
If it doesn't have Crossfired 5850s or 5870s, its a rip-off imo. ;)
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#10 grongo2
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Yeah it states: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™HD5770 CrossfireX™ Enabled

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Yeah it states: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™HD5770 CrossfireX™ Enabled

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Price?

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#12 smc91352
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Yeah it states: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™HD5770 CrossfireX™ Enabledgrongo2
for $1500? Ripoff imo.
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[QUOTE="grongo2"]Yeah it states: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™HD5770 CrossfireX™ Enabledsmc91352
for $1500? Ripoff imo.

for dual 5770's :/ that just made me not want my chicken nuggets i made :(

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[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="grongo2"]Yeah it states: Dual 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeonâ„¢HD5770 CrossfireXâ„¢ EnabledNeo_revolution7

for $1500? Ripoff imo.

for dual 5770's :/ that just made me not want my chicken nuggets i made :(

Pass them on ova. Though for $1500 and all you get is 2 midrange cards. Yea one more reason why Dell is a joke.
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[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

[QUOTE="smc91352"]for $1500? Ripoff imo.millerlight89

for dual 5770's :/ that just made me not want my chicken nuggets i made :(

Pass them on ova. Though for $1500 and all you get is 2 midrange cards. Yea one more reason why Dell is a joke.

Agreed, and i can't pass em ova i ate em all already lol

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To be honest you really should build a pc yourself, you'll get better value for money. If money isn't an issue, then by all means go for an alienware or whatever, but just know that you could've got a much better pc for the money. In fact, there are probably tonnes of companies out there that don't charge stupid prices like dell and build you a custom pc! But still, don't underestimate your ability to build a pc. Its not too hard. People on here will help pick you out some components if you ask nicely ;)
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To be honest you really should build a pc yourself, you'll get better value for money. If money isn't an issue, then by all means go for an alienware or whatever, but just know that you could've got a much better pc for the money. In fact, there are probably tonnes of companies out there that don't charge stupid prices like dell and build you a custom pc! But still, don't underestimate your ability to build a pc. Its not too hard. People on here will help pick you out some components if you ask nicely ;)polarwrath11
For people who don't know how to build PC's. Sometimes, on the rare, odd occasion, buying a PC from Dell is certainly worth it. You have to factor in that your PC will be under full warranty, it'll be guaranteed to run, and that in someone who doesn't have the time to build a rig, paying 300 dollars for someone to do it isn't so bad at all. Just like servicing your own vehicle would be cheaper than getting a mechanic to do it.
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[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]To be honest you really should build a pc yourself, you'll get better value for money. If money isn't an issue, then by all means go for an alienware or whatever, but just know that you could've got a much better pc for the money. In fact, there are probably tonnes of companies out there that don't charge stupid prices like dell and build you a custom pc! But still, don't underestimate your ability to build a pc. Its not too hard. People on here will help pick you out some components if you ask nicely ;)-CheeseEater-
For people who don't know how to build PC's. Sometimes, on the rare, odd occasion, buying a PC from Dell is certainly worth it. You have to factor in that your PC will be under full warranty, it'll be guaranteed to run, and that in someone who doesn't have the time to build a rig, paying 300 dollars for someone to do it isn't so bad at all. Just like servicing your own vehicle would be cheaper than getting a mechanic to do it.

true but to charge that much for it to come with dual 5770's....there is a boundary to everything

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#19 grongo2
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Well the Studio XPS 8100 is only 1200 and that has a monitor and speakers -- I'm starting with nothing, all I have now is a laptop.

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#20 Neo_revolution7
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Well the Studio XPS 8100 is only 1200 and that has a monitor and speakers -- I'm starting with nothing, all I have now is a laptop.

grongo2

Send me the links so i can check the specs and also are you going to be gaming on this thing?

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#21 grongo2
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For some reason the Gamespot forum won't let me copy and paste the specs into the post so I just PMd 'em to ya.

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#22 rockzo
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The thing is there are many options, even if you pick from the three base models there are major differences.wooooode

On your sig which i thought was your post. your pc is better then you think. I have simmilar or even inferior specs to you and i run 95% of my games with AAx4 AFx16 and 1920x1080 with transparancy supersampling enabled. games like crysis and gta4 also run on my rig at 1080p just without the extra filters.

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[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]To be honest you really should build a pc yourself, you'll get better value for money. If money isn't an issue, then by all means go for an alienware or whatever, but just know that you could've got a much better pc for the money. In fact, there are probably tonnes of companies out there that don't charge stupid prices like dell and build you a custom pc! But still, don't underestimate your ability to build a pc. Its not too hard. People on here will help pick you out some components if you ask nicely ;)-CheeseEater-
For people who don't know how to build PC's. Sometimes, on the rare, odd occasion, buying a PC from Dell is certainly worth it. You have to factor in that your PC will be under full warranty, it'll be guaranteed to run, and that in someone who doesn't have the time to build a rig, paying 300 dollars for someone to do it isn't so bad at all. Just like servicing your own vehicle would be cheaper than getting a mechanic to do it.

I wouldn't compare repairing a car to building a PC. Building a PC is like a very, very easy lego puzzle, except for the fact that it costs a lot.

As for the warranty, all the individual components typically come with a 1 year warranty at a minimum, and both hardware and Dell systems have a chance of coming DOA. Keep in mind that hardware MFG's test their hardware before shipping it out, and so most DOA cases are caused by bad shipping or handling.

Also, building a PC doesn't take much time. All the connectors are pretty much idiot proof, so building one would likely take less than a day, granted that they don't encounter any problems or faulty parts.

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#24 grongo2
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Suggest a build that's cheaper and better than the XPS or the Alienware I listed!

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Suggest a build that's cheaper and better than the XPS or the Alienware I listed!

grongo2
Which is?
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#27 MaoTheChimp
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Suggest a build that's cheaper and better than the XPS or the Alienware I listed!

grongo2

Pardon another stupid question, but when you say you can knock off $418, are you saying that you can knock off that amount from the list price? ($1149)

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Here's what I came up with for that price tag:

CPU: Intel Ci5 750

Motherboard: ASUS P7H55M-PRO

GPU: HIS 5850

  • Sorry, I couldn't help it. As the budget allowed for it, I included a 5850 albeit it being $200 more.

HDD/PSU Combo: Samsung spinpoint F3 500GB & OCZ ModXtreme 600W

  • The hard drive, while being smaller in capacity compared to the one in the Dell system, is significantly faster (assuming they're using a Seagate/WD drive).

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1600

Optical: LG DVD Burner

Case: NZXT Gamma

OS: Microsoft Win.7 Home Premium 64bit

Total comes to: $984.91. I didn't include a monitor into the total price mainly because it isn't listed on Newegg. You'll have to get that off a different vendor if you want to purchase the one listed in the prebuilt.

If you prefer a GT240, you can swap out the 5850 for one and save about $200.

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go to ibuypower.com to configure your rig for 1100 u can build there great pc, without os and monitor
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#30 29121994
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i'd call that a baaaaaaad idea, dell is often overpriced and overvalued. I've got one of their laptops which it's a notebook and i only realised recently just how useless it is at regular tasks and how flawed the design is.

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dell arent overpriced but they are cheap and nasty in terms of build quality. Out of all the laptops monitors I have to repair at least 4/5 of them are usually Dell.
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Here's what I came up with for that price tag:

CPU: Intel Ci5 750

Motherboard: ASUS P7H55M-PRO

GPU: HIS 5850

  • Sorry, I couldn't help it. As the budget allowed for it, I included a 5850 albeit it being $200 more.

HDD/PSU Combo: Samsung spinpoint F3 500GB & OCZ ModXtreme 600W

  • The hard drive, while being smaller in capacity compared to the one in the Dell system, is significantly faster (assuming they're using a Seagate/WD drive).

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1600

Optical: LG DVD Burner

Case: NZXT Gamma

OS: Microsoft Win.7 Home Premium 64bit

Total comes to: $984.91. I didn't include a monitor into the total price mainly because it isn't listed on Newegg. You'll have to get that off a different vendor if you want to purchase the one listed in the prebuilt.

If you prefer a GT240, you can swap out the 5850 for one and save about $200.

MaoTheChimp

I blame Mao for dell being so over priced with his nice builds he sells to people on gamespot :)

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[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

Here's what I came up with for that price tag:

CPU: Intel Ci5 750

Motherboard: ASUS P7H55M-PRO

GPU: HIS 5850

  • Sorry, I couldn't help it. As the budget allowed for it, I included a 5850 albeit it being $200 more.

HDD/PSU Combo: Samsung spinpoint F3 500GB & OCZ ModXtreme 600W

  • The hard drive, while being smaller in capacity compared to the one in the Dell system, is significantly faster (assuming they're using a Seagate/WD drive).

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1600

Optical: LG DVD Burner

Case: NZXT Gamma

OS: Microsoft Win.7 Home Premium 64bit

Total comes to: $984.91. I didn't include a monitor into the total price mainly because it isn't listed on Newegg. You'll have to get that off a different vendor if you want to purchase the one listed in the prebuilt.

If you prefer a GT240, you can swap out the 5850 for one and save about $200.

Neo_revolution7

I blame Mao for dell being so over priced with his nice builds he sells to people on gamespot :)

Good build, it's almost identical to the one I just built but I went budget with a 5770 instead of 5850. I've said it before and I'll say it again--Friends Do Not Let Friends Buy Dell!
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[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

Here's what I came up with for that price tag:

CPU: Intel Ci5 750

Motherboard: ASUS P7H55M-PRO

GPU: HIS 5850

  • Sorry, I couldn't help it. As the budget allowed for it, I included a 5850 albeit it being $200 more.

HDD/PSU Combo: Samsung spinpoint F3 500GB & OCZ ModXtreme 600W

  • The hard drive, while being smaller in capacity compared to the one in the Dell system, is significantly faster (assuming they're using a Seagate/WD drive).

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1600

Optical: LG DVD Burner

Case: NZXT Gamma

OS: Microsoft Win.7 Home Premium 64bit

Total comes to: $984.91. I didn't include a monitor into the total price mainly because it isn't listed on Newegg. You'll have to get that off a different vendor if you want to purchase the one listed in the prebuilt.

If you prefer a GT240, you can swap out the 5850 for one and save about $200.

jcohenx

I blame Mao for dell being so over priced with his nice builds he sells to people on gamespot :)

Good build, it's almost identical to the one I just built but I went budget with a 5770 instead of 5850. I've said it before and I'll say it again--Friends Do Not Let Friends Buy Dell!

What's wrong with Dells? I have used their servers, they're fine, desktops are fine too, I don't game with them obviously.
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[QUOTE="jcohenx"][QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

I blame Mao for dell being so over priced with his nice builds he sells to people on gamespot :)

JigglyWiggly_

Good build, it's almost identical to the one I just built but I went budget with a 5770 instead of 5850. I've said it before and I'll say it again--Friends Do Not Let Friends Buy Dell!

What's wrong with Dells? I have used their servers, they're fine, desktops are fine too, I don't game with them obviously.

As out-of-the-box PCs used "as is" they are fine. But my experience with my one and only Dell is that the customer service was lackluster at best and when I wanted to upgrade they made it very difficult to do so. The secret that companies like Dell, HP, Gateway and others don't want most consumers to know is that building PCs is really easy now, very cost effective, and those with the guts to dive in and do it learn more about PCs than they ever would if they just buy boxes from the big computer houses.

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[QUOTE="jcohenx"][QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

I blame Mao for dell being so over priced with his nice builds he sells to people on gamespot :)

JigglyWiggly_

Good build, it's almost identical to the one I just built but I went budget with a 5770 instead of 5850. I've said it before and I'll say it again--Friends Do Not Let Friends Buy Dell!

What's wrong with Dells? I have used their servers, they're fine, desktops are fine too, I don't game with them obviously.

not only me but alot of others have had problems with their p'cs i mean for regular use they are fine, but when it comes down to gaming and other things id rather have my own built rig but i will say i do like their keyboards and monitors though :)

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Asus is better... for gaming anyway.
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#38 nofriekinlemons
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noooooooooooooo,

please we will help you in any way but dont get a dell, tell us what you want and we will shape a pc to your specific needs

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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="jcohenx"] Good build, it's almost identical to the one I just built but I went budget with a 5770 instead of 5850. I've said it before and I'll say it again--Friends Do Not Let Friends Buy Dell!Neo_revolution7

What's wrong with Dells? I have used their servers, they're fine, desktops are fine too, I don't game with them obviously.

not only me but alot of others have had problems with their p'cs i mean for regular use they are fine, but when it comes down to gaming and other things id rather have my own built rig but i will say i do like their keyboards and monitors though :)

I will testify to that, I still have the same keyboard and monitor from my first Dell.
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#40 slayerpker
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I would say build your own if you can, other wise i would go through a company that will build them for you. I personally suggest Avadirect: http://pc-barebones.avadirect.com/PC_Barebones/
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[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] What's wrong with Dells? I have used their servers, they're fine, desktops are fine too, I don't game with them obviously.jcohenx

not only me but alot of others have had problems with their p'cs i mean for regular use they are fine, but when it comes down to gaming and other things id rather have my own built rig but i will say i do like their keyboards and monitors though :)

I will testify to that, I still have the same keyboard and monitor from my first Dell.

Yes their keyboards and montiors are lovely. I am using 3 dell s2409w monitors, and I used to use a Dell usb multimedia keyboard recently. I then bought a keytronic keyboard which are byfar the best keyboards I have used. Only downside is no media buttons, but this is an old school style keyboard. I love it.
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Need help deciding which laptop to buy.. Can't pick between the M17X, M15X, and XPS Studio 16. Here are the specs for each build: M17X - i7-720QM, 1GB ATI Radeon HD 4870, 6GB DDR3 at 1333MHz, 320 GB Hard Drive, 1920x1200 RGB LED, Windows 7 Home Premium. M15X - i7-820QM, 1GB GTX 260M, 6GB DDR3 at 1333MHz, 320 GB Hard Drive, 1920x1200 WLED, Windows 7 Home Premium. XPS Studio 16 - i7-820QM, 1GB ATI Radeon HD 4670, 8GB DDR3 at 1333MHz, 500 GB Hard Drive, Windows 7 Ultimate. They're all mean machines, so any opinions will be much appreciated!
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Need help deciding which laptop to buy.. Can't pick between the M17X, M15X, and XPS Studio 16. Here are the specs for each build: M17X - i7-720QM, 1GB ATI Radeon HD 4870, 6GB DDR3 at 1333MHz, 320 GB Hard Drive, 1920x1200 RGB LED, Windows 7 Home Premium. M15X - i7-820QM, 1GB GTX 260M, 6GB DDR3 at 1333MHz, 320 GB Hard Drive, 1920x1200 WLED, Windows 7 Home Premium. XPS Studio 16 - i7-820QM, 1GB ATI Radeon HD 4670, 8GB DDR3 at 1333MHz, 500 GB Hard Drive, Windows 7 Ultimate. They're all mean machines, so any opinions will be much appreciated!RukaMoja

wrong thread for that dude.