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#1 yentlequible
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My budget was $700. Did I miss any essential parts? EDIT: I forgot the case duh...

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#2 Tezcatlipoca666
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Everything is there except a case (as you said).

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#3 yentlequible
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Also, I want to double check and make sure these are all compatible with each other. They should be, since it is very similar to the computer I bought a month ago, but I just want to be safe.
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#4 GTR12
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Do you really need 8GB RAM?

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#5 yentlequible
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Do you really need 8GB RAM?

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I am building this for my Aunt who does a lot of work with photos. And it was cheap. Seems like a great idea to me.
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#6 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="GTR12"]

Do you really need 8GB RAM?

yentlequible

I am building this for my Aunt who does a lot of work with photos. And it was cheap. Seems like a great idea to me.

Your Aunt needs an HD 6850? Does she game :o

Anyway, 8GB of RAM is so cheap nowadays that you might as well. I remember paying $100 for my 4GB back in 2009...

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#7 yentlequible
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"][QUOTE="GTR12"]

Do you really need 8GB RAM?

Tezcatlipoca666

I am building this for my Aunt who does a lot of work with photos. And it was cheap. Seems like a great idea to me.

Your Aunt needs an HD 6850? Does she game :o

Anyway, 8GB of RAM is so cheap nowadays that you might as well. I remember paying $100 for my 4GB back in 2009...

Yeah, it was a little much, but I figured it would make it a little more future proof. Any other suggestions for a better alternative?
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#8 neatfeatguy
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="yentlequible"] I am building this for my Aunt who does a lot of work with photos. And it was cheap. Seems like a great idea to me.yentlequible

Your Aunt needs an HD 6850? Does she game :o

Anyway, 8GB of RAM is so cheap nowadays that you might as well. I remember paying $100 for my 4GB back in 2009...

Yeah, it was a little much, but I figured it would make it a little more future proof. Any other suggestions for a better alternative?

Drop $40 off your build by grabbing a HD 5770 or HD 6770 (same card, just different name) or if you can find a GTX 460 768MB, this would be slightly better over the 5770/6770.

It seems kind of a waste, unless she does game. Pretty much anything in the $100-120 range would work perfect...hell, even a GTS 450 would be ample for her needs. That's just my two cents.

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#9 GTR12
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Your Aunt needs an HD 6850? Does she game :o

Anyway, 8GB of RAM is so cheap nowadays that you might as well. I remember paying $100 for my 4GB back in 2009...

yentlequible

Yeah, it was a little much, but I figured it would make it a little more future proof. Any other suggestions for a better alternative?

Fair enough, but get rid of the 6850 then, thats a gaming GPU, and get something cheaper, like a GTX460 or 6770 or 6750.

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#10 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"][QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Your Aunt needs an HD 6850? Does she game :o

Anyway, 8GB of RAM is so cheap nowadays that you might as well. I remember paying $100 for my 4GB back in 2009...

GTR12

Yeah, it was a little much, but I figured it would make it a little more future proof. Any other suggestions for a better alternative?

Fair enough, but get rid of the 6850 then, thats a gaming GPU, and get something cheaper, like a GTX460 or 6770 or 6750.

I'd even suggest going for an HD 6670. Then he would also drop the PSU to something else and save more money.

An HD 6750 would also be a good card.

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#11 GTR12
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[QUOTE="GTR12"]

Fair enough, but get rid of the 6850 then, thats a gaming GPU, and get something cheaper, like a GTX460 or 6770 or 6750.

Tezcatlipoca666

I'd even suggest going for an HD 6670. Then he would also drop the PSU to something else and save more money.

An HD 6750 would also be a good card.

I think its like a $10 price jump from 6670 to the 6750, and it is a pretty big jump in performance.

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If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

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#13 Tezcatlipoca666
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If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

sleepingzzz

in that case he might as well go AMD A8-3850.

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Ok, I'll see if I can pick up a gtx 460 or something. How low could I possibly go on the PSU?
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#15 GTR12
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Ok, I'll see if I can pick up a gtx 460 or something. How low could I possibly go on the PSU?yentlequible

500watt is plenty, if the GPU doesnt need external power.

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[QUOTE="yentlequible"]Ok, I'll see if I can pick up a gtx 460 or something. How low could I possibly go on the PSU?GTR12

500watt is plenty, if the GPU doesnt need external power.

External? As in a 6-pin connector from the PSU?
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#17 yentlequible
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If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

sleepingzzz
Not photo viewing. She does use photoshop to edit them, which probably still doesn't use the card that much, but still...
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#18 gravitygamer
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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

yentlequible
Not photo viewing. She does use photoshop to edit them, which probably still doesn't use the card that much, but still...

a decent 350-400W is enough...
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#19 GTR12
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[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="yentlequible"]Ok, I'll see if I can pick up a gtx 460 or something. How low could I possibly go on the PSU?yentlequible

500watt is plenty, if the GPU doesnt need external power.

External? As in a 6-pin connector from the PSU?

Yeh a 6-pin, low-end GPU's dont need one, just make sure its low-end enough.

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Ok, what is the lowest I could go on the PSU while still using the 6850. Im a little hesitant to go for a lower card simply due to the fact that her kids play a few games. Forgot to mention that...
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Ok, what is the lowest I could go on the PSU while still using the 6850. Im a little hesitant to go for a lower card simply due to the fact that her kids play a few games. Forgot to mention that...yentlequible
cooler master 350W...barely goes above 250(full system power)
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If you don't mind ebay this card would blow that one out of the water, should max BF3 and supports voltage OC, no DX11 support but then again what's the point of DX11 if we're still having trouble telling the difference between 9 and 10. Also check your private messages.

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If you don't mind ebay this card would blow that one out of the water, should max BF3 and supports voltage OC, no DX11 support but then again what's the point of DX11 if we're still having trouble telling the difference between 9 and 10. Also check your private messages.

zaku101

Why are you recommending GTX 295s again dude O.o Its for his aunt she doesnt even game and its a old ass power hungry card anyway...And how the hell would it max BF3? BF3 is a DX11 game which the card cant do, so it aint maxing anything unless its DX10 which therefore isnt max.

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#24 GTR12
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"]Ok, what is the lowest I could go on the PSU while still using the 6850. Im a little hesitant to go for a lower card simply due to the fact that her kids play a few games. Forgot to mention that...gravitygamer
cooler master 350W...barely goes above 250(full system power)

No way would 350 be enough, get a 500watt.

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#25 swehunt
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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

Tezcatlipoca666

in that case he might as well go AMD A8-3850.

Get a FM1 motherboard and a LIano CPU (preferably not the 3850 since it's a bit much), get 4GB ram and a PSU. Shouldn't cost much more than half what the build he currently looking at.

FM1 motherboard $70

LIano APU $119

4GB(2*2) 1333mhz $24

Case $34

memcard/flashcard reader $15

PSU $40

And a random DVD burner ($20)

Note that another HD6670 cost about $80. (but the APU manage fine for the intended stuff she is doing.

IF she ever whant to game the APU will let her do so, and IF she would think the graphic is to weak she could always get a HD6670 and Crossfire it with the APU getting performance near HD6750 levels.

I'm not sure this is how I would spend my money since it's quite expencive with LIano as of now, Liano MB's and APU's need to come down a bit to really be a good option but it's still a uncommon alternative.

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[QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

yentlequible

Not photo viewing. She does use photoshop to edit them, which probably still doesn't use the card that much, but still...

Why dont you just drop the graphic card altogether and get her a sandy bridge setup with onboard video? That would crush the PC you have selected for photoshop performance.

Dont drop the PSU to something really cheap as you wanna have the option of transforming this PC into a gaming one anytime in the future.

And that HDD is over priced, go for samsung.

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#27 swehunt
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"][QUOTE="sleepingzzz"]

If it's for your aunt I would just get a motherboard with onboard video. You don't need that much to view photos.

Gambler_3

Not photo viewing. She does use photoshop to edit them, which probably still doesn't use the card that much, but still...

Why dont you just drop the graphic card altogether and get her a sandy bridge setup with onboard video? That would crush the PC you have selected for photoshop performance.

Dont drop the PSU to something really cheap as you wanna have the option of transforming this PC into a gaming one anytime in the future.

And that HDD is over priced, go for samsung.

If the CPU max out @ 100w and the rest takes 50w tops, does he really need another 450w to spare? Just get a good brand made outta good components that will last long, a 350w-450w of good quality will still run lowend card (up to HD6850) perfectly fine, and in the future we'll be able to get better performing card that use less power, so imagine having the power of a HD6850 drawing only as much juice as a HD5750, that is very likely with the HD7xxx release in a few months.
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If the CPU max out @ 100w and the rest takes 50w tops, does he really need another 450w to spare? Just get a good brand made outta good components that will last long, a 350w-450w of good quality will still run lowend card (up to HD6850) perfectly fine, and in the future we'll be able to get better performing card that use less power, so imagine having the power of a HD6850 drawing only as much juice as a HD5750, that is very likely with the HD7xxx release in a few months.swehunt
Well if he has the budget it doesnt hurt to spend $20-30 more for a PSU. You can never be sure how much power the next gen cards would need. Dropping the GPU would give him enough to go for sandy bridge, infact he will save money as I dont quite understand the point of AM3+ board for a non-enthusiast as this PC wont be upgraded for a long time. He just needs a H67 board, nothing more.

The really high quality 450-500W dont actually come that cheap so you may as well spend a bit more.

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[QUOTE="zaku101"]

If you don't mind ebay this card would blow that one out of the water, should max BF3 and supports voltage OC, no DX11 support but then again what's the point of DX11 if we're still having trouble telling the difference between 9 and 10. Also check your private messages.

V4LENT1NE

Why are you recommending GTX 295s again dude O.o Its for his aunt she doesnt even game and its a old ass power hungry card anyway...And how the hell would it max BF3? BF3 is a DX11 game which the card cant do, so it aint maxing anything unless its DX10 which therefore isnt max.

lol its prob his and he's trying to sell it.
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[QUOTE="swehunt"] If the CPU max out @ 100w and the rest takes 50w tops, does he really need another 450w to spare? Just get a good brand made outta good components that will last long, a 350w-450w of good quality will still run lowend card (up to HD6850) perfectly fine, and in the future we'll be able to get better performing card that use less power, so imagine having the power of a HD6850 drawing only as much juice as a HD5750, that is very likely with the HD7xxx release in a few months.Gambler_3

Well if he has the budget it doesnt hurt to spend $20-30 more for a PSU. You can never be sure how much power the next gen cards would need. Dropping the GPU would give him enough to go for sandy bridge, infact he will save money as I dont quite understand the point of AM3+ board for a non-enthusiast as this PC wont be upgraded for a long time. He just needs a H67 board, nothing more.

The really high quality 450-500W dont actually come that cheap so you may as well spend a bit more.

Yes, AM3+ makes no sense for this build. I would get something with an intergrated gpu, in that department Intel sandybridge is not that good as of now the LIano is a much better deal with 2-3-4 times more powerful graphic chip thats even capable to run simpler games fine, thats why I made a FM1 build above, if however the APU should be found to weak another HD6550 can be run in CF to make performance in the HD5750/6750 midend segment thats only a $40-70 upgrade. True, the good quality 650w isn't that much more expencive, but the Antec 380w for only $40 I put in that build has pleanty with power to run a dedicated midend (again up to HD6850) grapihc card along with a stock clock'ed CPU. Probably good investment to get something in the 500w range, but if this PC isn't going to be upgraded it's a waste on resourses.
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Sandy bridge is better than LIano for photoshop, AMD CPU's just cant compare.

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#32 zaku101
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[QUOTE="zaku101"]

If you don't mind ebay this card would blow that one out of the water, should max BF3 and supports voltage OC, no DX11 support but then again what's the point of DX11 if we're still having trouble telling the difference between 9 and 10. Also check your private messages.

V4LENT1NE

Why are you recommending GTX 295s again dude O.o Its for his aunt she doesnt even game and its a old ass power hungry card anyway...And how the hell would it max BF3? BF3 is a DX11 game which the card cant do, so it aint maxing anything unless its DX10 which therefore isnt max.

The card would still eat away at the card he selected and of course I was referring to DX10, don't know why anyone would need DX11. Why not get a more powerful card for the same price if you can? Best bang for his $. Try finding a DX10 card for the same price o wait that'd be the GTX480 which cost $300... I wouldn't even run DX11 on my 6970 wasted FPS and you can't even tell the difference in motion unless you actually stood there for 15min and who does that? When you actually need time, pictures and videos to show you the difference it simply isn't worth the FPS.

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#33 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

If you don't mind ebay this card would blow that one out of the water, should max BF3 and supports voltage OC, no DX11 support but then again what's the point of DX11 if we're still having trouble telling the difference between 9 and 10. Also check your private messages.

zaku101

Why are you recommending GTX 295s again dude O.o Its for his aunt she doesnt even game and its a old ass power hungry card anyway...And how the hell would it max BF3? BF3 is a DX11 game which the card cant do, so it aint maxing anything unless its DX10 which therefore isnt max.

The card would still eat away at the card he selected and of course I was referring to DX10, don't know why anyone would need DX11. Why not get a more powerful card for the same price if you can? Best bang for his $. Try finding a DX10 card for the same price o wait that'd be the GTX480 which cost $300... I wouldn't even run DX11 on my 6970 wasted FPS and you can't even tell the difference in motion unless you actually stood there for 15min and who does that? When you actually need time, pictures and videos to show you the difference it simply isn't worth the FPS.

Well thats good for you but for the people with 20./20 vision I am sure they prefer the better effects of DX11, just because you dont see the difference doesnt mean it isnt there. DX11>>all. And I still say it, 480>>>295, I have checked the benchmark and the only time the 295 beats the 480 is a game that supports SLI well, all other games go to the 480, add to the fact that the 480 can do DX11 its a no brainer to take the 480 over a 3 year old piece of kit.
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#34 zaku101
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[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Why are you recommending GTX 295s again dude O.o Its for his aunt she doesnt even game and its a old ass power hungry card anyway...And how the hell would it max BF3? BF3 is a DX11 game which the card cant do, so it aint maxing anything unless its DX10 which therefore isnt max.

V4LENT1NE

The card would still eat away at the card he selected and of course I was referring to DX10, don't know why anyone would need DX11. Why not get a more powerful card for the same price if you can? Best bang for his $. Try finding a DX10 card for the same price o wait that'd be the GTX480 which cost $300... I wouldn't even run DX11 on my 6970 wasted FPS and you can't even tell the difference in motion unless you actually stood there for 15min and who does that? When you actually need time, pictures and videos to show you the difference it simply isn't worth the FPS.

Well thats good for you but for the people with 20./20 vision I am sure they prefer the better effects of DX11, just because you dont see the difference doesnt mean it isnt there. DX11>>all. And I still say it, 480>>>295, I have checked the benchmark and the only time the 295 beats the 480 is a game that supports SLI well, all other games go to the 480, add to the fact that the 480 can do DX11 its a no brainer to take the 480 over a 3 year old piece of kit.

Don't need 20/20 vision you just need a lot of free time. If I can't turn crysis 2 on and let me friend play it in DX11 and DX10 and then ask him what the difference is without him saying I don't know it's a waste of money. At tops the difference between the 480 and GTX295 is 10fps and in some only 5fps. The GTX 295 could easily be overclocked to run faster than a card 3 years newer than it which is sad..

Link

I dare you to find someone and let them play Crysis 2 in DX11 and 10 then ask them if they can even noticed the difference without having you stop every few minute to try showing them it. That's if you can even spot it yourself. Then ask them if $150 extra is worth it..

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#35 yentlequible
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So many options... Im getting a little overwhelmed now. Looks my quick 20 minute build is getting a redo.

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#36 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

The card would still eat away at the card he selected and of course I was referring to DX10, don't know why anyone would need DX11. Why not get a more powerful card for the same price if you can? Best bang for his $. Try finding a DX10 card for the same price o wait that'd be the GTX480 which cost $300... I wouldn't even run DX11 on my 6970 wasted FPS and you can't even tell the difference in motion unless you actually stood there for 15min and who does that? When you actually need time, pictures and videos to show you the difference it simply isn't worth the FPS.

zaku101

Well thats good for you but for the people with 20./20 vision I am sure they prefer the better effects of DX11, just because you dont see the difference doesnt mean it isnt there. DX11>>all. And I still say it, 480>>>295, I have checked the benchmark and the only time the 295 beats the 480 is a game that supports SLI well, all other games go to the 480, add to the fact that the 480 can do DX11 its a no brainer to take the 480 over a 3 year old piece of kit.

Don't need 20/20 vision you just need a lot of free time. If I can't turn crysis 2 on and let me friend play it in DX11 and DX10 and then ask him what the difference is without him saying I don't know it's a waste of money. At tops the difference between the 480 and GTX295 is 10fps and in some only 5fps. The GTX 295 could easily be overclocked to run faster than a card 3 years newer than it which is sad..

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I dare you to find someone and let them play Crysis 2 in DX11 and 10 then ask them if they can even noticed the difference without having you stop every few minute to try showing them it. That's if you can even spot it yourself. Then ask them if $150 extra is worth it..

I cant get them to see if its different in DX10 vs DX11 because it doesnt have DX10, its DX9 vs DX11, 2nd time you have said that. And in the review you posted the GTX 480 was faster than the 295 to which you said you can overclock the 295 to be faster, but what you failed to mention is that if you overclock the 480 it will still be faster than a 295. So what we lookig at here, faster card, DX11 support, better future proofing, anything else?
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#37 zaku101
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Well thats good for you but for the people with 20./20 vision I am sure they prefer the better effects of DX11, just because you dont see the difference doesnt mean it isnt there. DX11>>all. And I still say it, 480>>>295, I have checked the benchmark and the only time the 295 beats the 480 is a game that supports SLI well, all other games go to the 480, add to the fact that the 480 can do DX11 its a no brainer to take the 480 over a 3 year old piece of kit.V4LENT1NE

Don't need 20/20 vision you just need a lot of free time. If I can't turn crysis 2 on and let me friend play it in DX11 and DX10 and then ask him what the difference is without him saying I don't know it's a waste of money. At tops the difference between the 480 and GTX295 is 10fps and in some only 5fps. The GTX 295 could easily be overclocked to run faster than a card 3 years newer than it which is sad..

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I dare you to find someone and let them play Crysis 2 in DX11 and 10 then ask them if they can even noticed the difference without having you stop every few minute to try showing them it. That's if you can even spot it yourself. Then ask them if $150 extra is worth it..

I cant get them to see if its different in DX10 vs DX11 because it doesnt have DX10, its DX9 vs DX11, 2nd time you have said that. And in the review you posted the GTX 480 was faster than the 295 to which you said you can overclock the 295 to be faster, but what you failed to mention is that if you overclock the 480 it will still be faster than a 295. So what we lookig at here, faster card, DX11 support, better future proofing, anything else?

O wait was crysis 2 actually running in DX9?!?! I thought the new patch would have added in DX10 but whats the point when you cant tell the difference lol. I couldn't tell the difference it looked like DX10 or 11 to me LOL silly me. But still is that extra overclock worth $150... when for the same price you could get 2 GTX295 for the same price as one GTX480... which would equal 2x the performance -DX11 you'd have to be dumb to turn that down.

Last gen hardware 2x the speed of current gen for the same price :P

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#38 V4LENT1NE
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2 times the peformance 'if' the game scales well in SLI and you still arent going to get DX11, its like I am talking to a brick wall here. The only reason you arent getting it is because you dont rate DX11, which is your problem not ours, guess there is nothing else I can say.
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#39 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"][QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Your Aunt needs an HD 6850? Does she game :o

Anyway, 8GB of RAM is so cheap nowadays that you might as well. I remember paying $100 for my 4GB back in 2009...

neatfeatguy

Yeah, it was a little much, but I figured it would make it a little more future proof. Any other suggestions for a better alternative?

Drop $40 off your build by grabbing a HD 5770 or HD 6770 (same card, just different name) or if you can find a GTX 460 768MB, this would be slightly better over the 5770/6770.

It seems kind of a waste, unless she does game. Pretty much anything in the $100-120 range would work perfect...hell, even a GTS 450 would be ample for her needs. That's just my two cents.

I'm using a GTS 450 to game right now, why is it always considered such a low end card?
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[QUOTE="yentlequible"] Yeah, it was a little much, but I figured it would make it a little more future proof. Any other suggestions for a better alternative?YoshiYogurt

Drop $40 off your build by grabbing a HD 5770 or HD 6770 (same card, just different name) or if you can find a GTX 460 768MB, this would be slightly better over the 5770/6770.

It seems kind of a waste, unless she does game. Pretty much anything in the $100-120 range would work perfect...hell, even a GTS 450 would be ample for her needs. That's just my two cents.

I'm using a GTS 450 to game right now, why is it always considered such a low end card?

It's a low-mid range card. The GT 440 would be a low end gaming card - it can play games, but not on demanding settings or higher resolutions. The GTS 450, from my understanding, seems to be a re-hashed GTS 250. While not a horrible card by anymeans, it's just starting to show it's age. Most newer games are starting to suggest GTX 260 and better cards for minimum requirements.

If it works for you, great. Keep using it. I never suggested it was bad card or knocked anyone for using it.