Morrowind crashes on exit

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#1 ChiliDragon
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After all the talk about Oblivion and Morrowind in the past few days, I decided to finally play through the whole thing. I have the GOTY edition from Steam and 64-bit Win7 Home Premium, and after setting both the main exe and the launcher to run As Administrator, the game starts and runs fine, until I exit out of the game. When I cick on "exit" in the menu, it locks up in "not responding"-mode and I have to kill the game via Task Manager. Obviously this isn't game-breaking, but it's extremely annoying. Has anyone else had this happen, and found a solution? Things I've tried so far: Verified integrity of game cache. Uninstall and reinstall with reboot in between (re-verfied after reinstall) Run the exe and launcher in compatibility mode for XP SP 2 No mods yet, this is a vanilla install, but I want it to be stable and non-crashing before modding the thing.
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#2 carlosjuero
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Hrm - no issues with that sort of crash on Exit on my Win 7 Pro x64 machine - and I don't bother setting any compatibility options. I do, however, use the Morrowind Code Patch (which is compatible with the Steam version) - maybe try that? I don't remember if I had crashing issues before I started using the MCP - my memory isn't as good as it used to be :/.
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#3 ChiliDragon
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After briefly skimming the mod guide I was going to use, the Code Patch is one of the first things it mentions. I'll install that and give the game a whirl, and report back on progress. Thanks! :)
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#4 ChiliDragon
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Sadly, even after installing the Code Patch it crashes on exit. It's very smooth and definitely will be playable though, so depending on how much I like the game I may just try to live with this. We'll see.
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#5 carlosjuero
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Its odd that it is crashing on you. Have you tried using the Disable Desktop Composition compatibility setting? Maybe something with Aero is messing it up?

What resolution are you running it at? I use the FPS optimizer to modify the registry values to bring the game resolution up to my desktop resolution (you can also just search the registry for the proper keys, or use the Morrowind Graphics Extender - all I use the FPS optimizer for is modifying that registry entry, I don't leave it running in the background or anything).

Look in the program folder (Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\morrowind) and see if there is an error log file or something.

You could also check the Windows Event Log to see if any errors/warnings were logged about Morrowind.

Have you installed the latest DirectX 9.0c redistributable? (Get the directx web updater from Microsoft's support site, it is better at finding missing dependencies than the installer Steam calls as part of its pre-requisites).

Hope it gets all worked out :) - I still find Morrowind fun after all of these years. Of course, I am not much for flashy graphics - the gameplay is solid for me.

Edit:

Also - did you just Install the MCP or did you actually run it and apply the patch? I had to install it, copy the files from the folder it put them in to the main Morrwind application folder, and then run and patch the executable that way. When you launch you sould see a version # in the bottom left corner that says MCP X.XX [where X.XX is the version of MCP]

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#6 ChiliDragon
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Wow, that's a lot of questions... let me try and hit them all in order. 1. Yes, I tried that. Disabling desktop composition, or turning off Aero through other means, made no difference. 2. Vanilla Morrowind is running at 1024x768. For testing (and fun) I installed the Graphics Extender mod and set the resolution to match my display at 1366x768. Made no difference, it crashes on both settings. 3. No error log, but Windows Event Viewer is telling me in no uncertain terms that Morrowind is not a compatible application. The fact that it is running beautifully until I attempt to exit out makes me question whether Windows knows what it's talking about. :P 4.Attempts to install the latest version of Dx9 from the Microsoft website have failed me. They come back and say that since I have a "newer or equivalent" version installed already there is no point, and then the installation stops. I haven't found a way to over-ride it. 5. I extracted the files into the Morrowind folder and ran the installer from there. Lower left corner of the game's main loading screen now says "MCP 1.9" where it used to say 1.6.1820 Note: This is the only issue I'm having with the game. Everything else about it is running great. :)
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#7 ChiliDragon
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Note: This is the only issue I'm having with the game. Everything else about it is running great. :)ChiliDragon
I take that back. I'm unable to load a save file from within the game (Esc -> Load -> pick your save and click OK) without crashing. Every single time, regardless of which save file, the game freezes, and I have to kill the process in Task Manager. THAT is game breaking, and I am less than happy. Happens with or without mods enabled. Grrrr. :evil:
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#8 carlosjuero
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That is very odd - it isn't a Windows 7 problem, that is for sure (unfortunately :/) What AV suite do you have? Try setting it to ignore the Morrowind folder (This is just a suggestion, I don't know if it will help at all). Do you have any file monitoring/disk cleanup software running resident? Something like an automatic mirror update, windows Defrag, etc - possibly disk access issues. Do you have another drive on the computer you could test something on? I am thinking to do the following: - Back up your currently installed Steam games (either with the in Steam utility, or by manually copying the entire Steamapps folder to a safe location) - Uninstall Steam - Install Steam again, but this time to a different drive (or even just a different folder) - Copy your backed up games to the new steam location - Run steam and let it "update" the games (all it will do is re-verify their location and files and update its internal configurations properly - only bad files/missing files will be replaced and redownloaded) Getting into more drastic measures: Reboot the computer into Safe Mode (Hold down Shift when starting the computer - I think this still brings up the Windows Boot Options menu if done in time, hitting F8 quickly after POST might work too - haven't had to do it with Windows 7 so I don't know if MS changed anything about it. You could also "force" the menu to show by forcing your PC to shut off without shutting down windows (generally hold the power button until the machine turns off). Try running the game in Safe Mode - if it runs then you likely are having driver issues (narrowing down which driver becomes a painful process unfortunately :() Lastly I also suggest running the Windows Scan Disk utility (check the option for Attempt to Fix Bad Sectors and the one for data recovery) - it is entirely possible you have some bad sectors. Lots of random stuff in my post above that may, or may not, do anything for you - hope we can get it sorted out :) [not just because Morrowind is a great game, but because the symptoms are endemic of a possibly bigger problem overall]
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#9 ChiliDragon
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That is very odd - it isn't a Windows 7 problem, that is for sure (unfortunately :/) What AV suite do you have? Try setting it to ignore the Morrowind folder (This is just a suggestion, I don't know if it will help at all).carlosjuero
Sadly, this didn't help. I did try a reinstall with Avast entirely disabled though... but no difference.
Do you have any file monitoring/disk cleanup software running resident? Something like an automatic mirror update, windows Defrag, etc - possibly disk access issues.carlosjuero
Nope, nothing.
Do you have another drive on the computer you could test something on?carlosjuero
I'm on a laptop, so only one hard drive.
Reboot the computer into Safe Mode (Hold down Shift when starting the computer - I think this still brings up the Windows Boot Options menu if done in time, hitting F8 quickly after POST might work too - haven't had to do it with Windows 7 so I don't know if MS changed anything about it. You could also "force" the menu to show by forcing your PC to shut off without shutting down windows (generally hold the power button until the machine turns off).carlosjuero
It's the same as before... just tap F8 on boot-up and the menu comes up. :)
[not just because Morrowind is a great game, but because the symptoms are endemic of a possibly bigger problem overall]carlosjuero
I hope you're wrong about that... though if that was the case, I'd expect other applications to have issues as well, and Morrowind is the only one giving me this kind of problem. Then again, I've said that before... and always about Bethesda games, oddly enough. ;) I made a thread in the Steam forum for Morrowind, I'm hoping someone there has seen this before and knows of a fix. If they do, I'll let you know. :)
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After all the talk about Oblivion and Morrowind in the past few days, I decided to finally play through the whole thing. I have the GOTY edition from Steam and 64-bit Win7 Home Premium, and after setting both the main exe and the launcher to run As Administrator, the game starts and runs fine, until I exit out of the game. When I cick on "exit" in the menu, it locks up in "not responding"-mode and I have to kill the game via Task Manager. Obviously this isn't game-breaking, but it's extremely annoying. Has anyone else had this happen, and found a solution? Things I've tried so far: Verified integrity of game cache. Uninstall and reinstall with reboot in between (re-verfied after reinstall) Run the exe and launcher in compatibility mode for XP SP 2 No mods yet, this is a vanilla install, but I want it to be stable and non-crashing before modding the thing.ChiliDragon

Morrowind, Oblivion and FO3 all do that for me. I do have all of them heavily modded, so I assume that some modification I'm running conflicts with the core engine in each game. It never really bothered me that much, so I've never looked into it. I just save before I exit and everything is fine. I've never had any of vanilla versions of the games do that to me when exiting.

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#11 ssvegeta555
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My copy of Morrowind does the same too (also with Oblivion and Fallout NV on occasion, both games modded). I do have a ton of mods though and I'm using the graphics extender as well. I just got use to it TBH.

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#12 ChiliDragon
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Thing is though, I can live with crash on exit. But this whole "can't load a save in-game because it crashes and has to be closed in Task Manager"-crashing it's doing is making the game more or less unplayable.
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#13 StrawberryHill
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Thing is though, I can live with crash on exit. But this whole "can't load a save in-game because it crashes and has to be closed in Task Manager"-crashing it's doing is making the game more or less unplayable.ChiliDragon

Are you using quicksaves?

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#14 ChiliDragon
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]Thing is though, I can live with crash on exit. But this whole "can't load a save in-game because it crashes and has to be closed in Task Manager"-crashing it's doing is making the game more or less unplayable.StrawberryHill

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