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#1 TheFreeloader
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Anyone got a game they really like, but there got a bad review by Gamespot?

I got one, i really liked Casino Inc and it was one of my favourite business sim games, because it had all the good basic compents for that kind of game and so much more than just building a buisness in some great missions where you with unorthodox methods should take out your opponents. But GS couldn't handle it all, so it got 5.2...

Anyone else got one ?

(This thread is not meant to criticize Gamespot in any ways)

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#2 Rattlesnake_8
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Every reply is going to be Big Rigs.
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#3 jfsebastianII
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i think everyone thinks GS got Big Rigs dead right, don't they?

mine would be Blade Runner, which GS massively underrated, and also Chrome Specforce

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#4 potentv
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They also underrated TF2 also with 8.5

AudioSurf got 7.5

Overlord also got 7.5 but this could be my preference

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#5 col_hannibal
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X3 Reunion and Rise of Legends both are underrated, with 7.2 and 7.5 and they are some of my favourite games
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#6 DanielDust
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-Heroes of Might and Magic, any of them (those that they reviewed) except Heroes 3 (the original not the expansions). It's the best TBS out there and it has really low ratings :(, but they are appreciated better anywhere except GS. I never thought a game would be bad because it's hard :| (Tribes of the East got 5.5, sure it's not perfect but 5.5 is really stupid. I bet if it was on consoles it would have 9.5 on GS).

-Gothic 2

-Jade Empire

-MDK2

-Sacred

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#7 RobbieH1234
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8.2 for Deus Ex is criminal.
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#8 screamingdoom
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8.2 for Deus Ex is criminal.RobbieH1234

The person who did that review should definately be sentenced to life in Alcatraz

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Big rigs
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#11 thusaha
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Tron 2.0 (7.1), this game deserves at least 9.
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#12 1005
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Jade Empire

Team Fortress 2

Audiosurf

The Witcher

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#13 fireandcloud
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i would have to say vampire, but it was supposedly buggy as hell when released, so...
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#14 artur79
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System Shock 2.

I know, I know, 8.5 is a pretty decent score. But... The game was, and still is unique, it has 'deeper than a well' gameplay, fantastic atmosphere and music, and it's genuinly nerve-wrecking. Few, if any shooter-games live up to the standards this game set in the past. Half Life (= meh) got a 9.4, System Shock (= oooohh) got 8.5. That's not underrated if you ask me, that's a ****ing crime.

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Frontlines.
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#16 ClawKiller
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Half-Life 2 shouldve got more than 9.2, its more of a 9.4-9.8 range of game.

And 10s, IMO, should never be handed out.

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#17 jfsebastianII
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Half-Life 2 shouldve got more than 9.2, its more of a 9.4-9.8 range of game.

ClawKiller

this is either the very definition of nit-picking - or you're kidding

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#18 df853
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Lords of the Realm 2 got a 7.6 and that game was amazing when it came out. I still play that game today. It's just that fun.
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Riven and Dark Forces both deserved way, way more than they got.
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#20 naval
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Dues Ex definitely, 8.2 that was too low. Nitpicking over stuff like lockpicking in such a great game, that's really retarted.

Recently, They gave Heroes of Might and Magic 5 : Tribes of East a 5.5, one of the worst review ever

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#21 fatshodan
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System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

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#22 Termite551
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No need to hate on half life artur, it ain't perfect but it's a very good game (Very deserving of the score it got). Although I will admit my deep secret, I didn't play more than 20 minutes of System shock 2 because those screaming zombie like things scared the **** out of me every single time
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#24 mimic-Denmark
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Turok, Timeshift and Jericho are all solid 8 out of 10 games.
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#25 jfsebastianII
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System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

fatshodan

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

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#26 artur79
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[QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

jfsebastianII

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

Yeah, but see, SS2 deserves a 12.

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[QUOTE="jfsebastianII"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

artur79

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

Yeah, but see, SS2 deserves a 12.

Think you mean TF2 deserves a 12. Lucky I spotted that mistake.
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[QUOTE="jfsebastianII"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

artur79

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

Yeah, but see, SS2 deserves a 12.

yes, of course - silly me...:oops:

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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, System Shock 2, Max Payne games.
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#30 jfsebastianII
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobylaliblabla2007

agreed

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#31 fatshodan
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[QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

jfsebastianII

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

The thing is, the difference between each score increment is disproportionate - the difference between an 8 and a 9, for example, is not the same as the difference between a 9 and a 10.

I see the scale as being like this:

qwerty

As you can see, a game scoring, say, 3 when it actually deserves 5 is a fairly small underrate - but a game scoring 8.5, when it actually deserves a 10 (or a 12 as artur points out), is a much greater underrate.

If everything was equal, then it would simply be a matter of numbers. But I think everything is so disproportionate, thanks in part to the /10 system but also thanks to how GameSpot misuses it, that something that scores .5 less than it deserves can be more of an overrate than something that scores 4 less than it deserves.

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#32 JP_Russell
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[QUOTE="jfsebastianII"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

fatshodan

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

The thing is, the difference between each score increment is disproportionate - the difference between an 8 and a 9, for example, is not the same as the difference between a 9 and a 10.

I see the scale as being like this:

qwerty

As you can see, a game scoring, say, 3 when it actually deserves 5 is a fairly small underrate - but a game scoring 8.5, when it actually deserves a 10 (or a 12 as artur points out), is a much greater underrate.

If everything was equal, then it would simply be a matter of numbers. But I think everything is so disproportionate, thanks in part to the /10 system but also thanks to how GameSpot misuses it, that something that scores .5 less than it deserves can be more of an overrate than something that scores 4 less than it deserves.

:lol: :lol: :lol: I love it!

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#33 fatshodan
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[QUOTE="artur79"][QUOTE="jfsebastianII"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

solid_mario

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

Yeah, but see, SS2 deserves a 12.

Think you mean TF2 deserves a 12. Lucky I spotted that mistake.

Children, children! No need to argue. They both deserve a 12!

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Rise Of Legends, Timeshift, You Are Empty.
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#35 jfsebastianII
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[QUOTE="jfsebastianII"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

fatshodan

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

The thing is, the difference between each score increment is disproportionate - the difference between an 8 and a 9, for example, is not the same as the difference between a 9 and a 10.

I see the scale as being like this:

qwerty

As you can see, a game scoring, say, 3 when it actually deserves 5 is a fairly small underrate - but a game scoring 8.5, when it actually deserves a 10 (or a 12 as artur points out), is a much greater underrate.

If everything was equal, then it would simply be a matter of numbers. But I think everything is so disproportionate, thanks in part to the /10 system but also thanks to how GameSpot misuses it, that something that scores .5 less than it deserves can be more of an overrate than something that scores 4 less than it deserves.

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#36 df853
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[QUOTE="jfsebastianII"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

System Shock 2 and Team Fortress 2.

Both are 8.5 - and both are very, very underrated.

fatshodan

how can 8.5 be 'very, very underrated'? that's only 1.5 away from the best score available

if most of us sat an exam and got 85%, we'd be pretty damned chuffed i'd have thought

The thing is, the difference between each score increment is disproportionate - the difference between an 8 and a 9, for example, is not the same as the difference between a 9 and a 10.

I see the scale as being like this:

qwerty

As you can see, a game scoring, say, 3 when it actually deserves 5 is a fairly small underrate - but a game scoring 8.5, when it actually deserves a 10 (or a 12 as artur points out), is a much greater underrate.

If everything was equal, then it would simply be a matter of numbers. But I think everything is so disproportionate, thanks in part to the /10 system but also thanks to how GameSpot misuses it, that something that scores .5 less than it deserves can be more of an overrate than something that scores 4 less than it deserves.

It does seem like gamespot pretty much rates every game above a 5. Even games that are terrible, they seem to at least give them a 5. So, then they get into this issue where so many games are rated 7 to 10 points, you have to really nit-pick to figure out which games are really better than others based on their rating system.

The only games that get scores lower than 5 are games that are just terrible beyond comprehension. So, I think the graph above is somewhat accurate.

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#37 Tuzolord
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Diablo 2 and Diablo2 LoD, 8.5 and 8.2 wth? theres 50k people playing everytime i log in and this Game is 8 years old, this is one the best Games ever created. (ok 20% of them are probably bots but still :P)

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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]8.2 for Deus Ex is criminal.screamingdoom

The person who did that review should definately be sentenced to life in Alcatraz

with Duke Nukem as cellmate. Seriously that game if not a 10 should have got at least 9.5

Also i think soul reaver 2 (pc) was underrated( got only 8 while user reviews where 8.7 )

And my favorite game Blood got only 8 (many users gave it a 10 )

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#39 hama666
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8.2 For Deus Ex was absolute criminal.

I thought Morrowind should of been given a slightly higher score too - that game was brilliant.

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#40 RobbieH1234
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[QUOTE="screamingdoom"]

[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]8.2 for Deus Ex is criminal.adamosmaki

The person who did that review should definately be sentenced to life in Alcatraz

with Duke Nukem as cellmate. Seriously that game if not a 10 should have got at least 9.5

Also i think soul reaver 2 (pc) was underrated( got only 8 while user reviews where 8.7 )

And my favorite game Blood got only 8 (many users gave it a 10 )

Very few games deserve a 10; Deus Ex is one of them.
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#42 RobbieH1234
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It does seem like gamespot pretty much rates every game above a 5. Even games that are terrible, they seem to at least give them a 5. So, then they get into this issue where so many games are rated 7 to 10 points, you have to really nit-pick to figure out which games are really better than others based on their rating system.

The only games that get scores lower than 5 are games that are just terrible beyond comprehension. So, I think the graph above is somewhat accurate.

df853

You sir, have hit the nail on the head. What needs to happen is a complete reimagining (for lack of a better word) of the review system. People have become so used to seeing a game get a 6 and thinking "6?! that games sucks" when in actuality, a 6 is above average. With the current system, a 7.5 is deemed to be above average. So we have this problem whereby within the 7.5 - 9.5 range we have the good, great, brilliant and superb games with very little to tell them apart.

I'll just throw this stat out there: in the last 12 months, there have been 38 games rated 9+ on GameSpot. Really, 38 superb games? Let's go one further: in the last 12 months, there have been 131 games rated between 8 and 8.9. What we essentially have is 150 games rated GREAT or higher in the last 12 months. I'm sorry, there have not been 150 great games in that time span by any stretch of the imagination. I know this may seem off-topic, but does anyone else see the problem?

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ok now iam confused tell me something what is the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.4 game??they are pretty much the same right??
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#44 JP_Russell
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ok now iam confused tell me something what is the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.4 game??they are pretty much the same right??biswajit90210

:? No... One is rated 8.5 (excellent-ish), one is rated 9.4 (phenomenal-ish).

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#45 RobbieH1234
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ok now iam confused tell me something what is the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.4 game??they are pretty much the same right??biswajit90210
I'm not saying that there's no difference; at least there should be a difference in most cases. The point I'm making is that reviewers are too generous with their scores. Can someone honestly tell me there's been 150 excellent or better games in the last 12 months?
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#46 fireandcloud
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[QUOTE="biswajit90210"]ok now iam confused tell me something what is the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.4 game??they are pretty much the same right??RobbieH1234
I'm not saying that there's no difference; at least there should be a difference in most cases. The point I'm making is that reviewers are too generous with their scores. Can someone honestly tell me there's been 150 excellent or better games in the last 12 months?

i agree. gs' scoring system is broken. a game that receives a score of 7 is considered a 'good' game, and it seems that a lot of games that received a score between 7 and 8 are above average at best. they really haven't implemented their own scoring system that well.

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#47 biltros
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I'll speak only for recent games.TUROK.I say again TUROK.come on 6?But 6?OK 6?I mean...6?WTF...Even blacksite got 6.5...WTF 6?Jason Ocampo gave it 7 in the 360,PS3 review.What was so terrible that Kevin found??Quicksave.At least it has an option even if it's not working...Far cry didn't even have this option!I mean 6?What kind of person would give this game 6?I can't believe **** i'll get an aspirine..Sorry.I'll try to behave myself.6?????????????Oh crap i still can't believe it....!!!!!!!!!
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#48 mo0ksi
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Deus Ex - -Needs no explination

STALKER - Sure the game was buggy but it still deserved a AAA score

Team Fortress 2 -Onf of their "flaws" were that the game rellied too much on teamwork. That's just pathetic.

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#49 MannyCalavera16
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IMO, obviously:

Duke Nukem 3D

Metal Gear Solid 3

Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

Not that they didn't receive good reviews, but they each got under a 9.0, which is why I feel they're underrated.

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#50 lolfiretruck
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Most recently LostWinds on Wiiware. It got a 5.5, but definitly deserved an 8+. The review here was horrible, and anybody who has played the game or has even seen a video of it will agree.