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May this be the first step of many, many to come 8)

Next step - Buy expensive tube amp

Next step 2 - buy Pink Floyd CDs/vinyls

Next step 3 - Orgasm as you listen to heavenly music

Optional step - Buy yourself some pot and get your own mini laser light show.

Am I doin' it right!?

Next step - Buy expensive tube amp

Next step 2 - buy Pink Floyd CDs/vinyls

Next step 3 - Orgasm as you listen to heavenly music

Optional step - Buy yourself some pot and get your own mini laser light show.

Am I doin' it right!?

ChubbyGuy40

Trust me, you'll want an amp.

and by want I actually mean need :P

Seriously, it opens up a whole new world. Also you'll most likely end up replacing the stock wire.

Trust me, you'll want an amp.

and by want I actually mean need :P

Seriously, it opens up a whole new world. Also you'll most likely end up replacing the stock wire.

NVIDIATI

5 * 90w... Would that suffice?

Nice! Next up, these babies :twisted:

Nice! Next up, these babies :twisted:

ravenguard90

Not a fan but the band name is awesome and represents my reaction to HD800s. I'm so getting myself a pair and might go with a Little Dot also. I want something simple (looking) for them.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Trust me, you'll want an amp.

and by want I actually mean need :P

Seriously, it opens up a whole new world. Also you'll most likely end up replacing the stock wire.

Mozelleple112

Nice! Next up, these babies :twisted:

ravenguard90

The WA22: http://www.wooaudio.com/products/wa22.html

5 * 90w... Would that suffice?

Mozelleple112

Also if you really do have your heart set on those B&W speakers you'll want a proper amp.

Like the Emotiva UPA-5, it can produce a continuous 125w at 8ohms with all 5 channels running.

(Just a side note, most retail receivers post the amount of watts running on a single channel, so in reality you get less)

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Trust me, you'll want an amp.

and by want I actually mean need :P

Seriously, it opens up a whole new world. Also you'll most likely end up replacing the stock wire.

NVIDIATI

What about AV receiver -> headphone amp -> Hd800? I'd like to avoid the WA22 (or get a far cheaper Woo amp)

Also if you really do have your heart set on those B&W speakers you'll want a proper amp.

Like the Emotiva UPA-5, it can produce a continuous 125w at 8ohms with all 5 channels running.

(Just a side note, most retail receivers post the amount of watts running on a single channel, so in reality you get less)

NVIDIATI

Call me weird but I just LOVE the way receivers look. Always wanted one. Even in the days I thought they did nothing but hold your cables together, I still wanted one ;)

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] So what amp do you recommend me ? Little Dot MK. III seems kinda silly imo. At this point they cost more than the headphones themselves! Also, they are out of my budget regardless. If it wasn't for the fact that the K702's were so damned cheap I would've settled for 595's or something. I'm going to have a Denon Receiver like for example AVR 1911 or Yamaha RXV67 (ChubbyGuy40

What about AV receiver -> headphone amp -> Hd800? I'd like to avoid the WA22 (or get a far cheaper Woo amp)

Its the same reason I'm choosing to build the Thor speakers this year instead of the Orion. Even though the Orion would cost me around $5,000 to build, I would still need to spend another $2,000 or so on powering them. While the Thors can be done for around $2,000 and it will cost me $1000 for an amp to power them.

As for a less expensive amp, something like the LD MKVIII SE (balanced tube amp) is around $800. Though I'm sure there are better alternatives. You're best bet is to ask an owner on head-fi.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Also if you really do have your heart set on those B&W speakers you'll want a proper amp.

Like the Emotiva UPA-5, it can produce a continuous 125w at 8ohms with all 5 channels running.

(Just a side note, most retail receivers post the amount of watts running on a single channel, so in reality you get less)

Mozelleple112

Call me weird but I just LOVE the way receivers look. Always wanted one. Even in the days I thought they did nothing but hold your cables together, I still wanted one ;)

Next step - Buy expensive tube amp

Next step 2 - buy Dave Brubeck Quartet CDs/vinyls

Next step 3 - Orgasm as you listen to heavenly music

Optional step - Buy yourself some cheap wine from Trader Joe's

Am I doin' it right!?

ChubbyGuy40

Boz

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Also if you really do have your heart set on those B&W speakers you'll want a proper amp.

Like the Emotiva UPA-5, it can produce a continuous 125w at 8ohms with all 5 channels running.

(Just a side note, most retail receivers post the amount of watts running on a single channel, so in reality you get less)

NVIDIATI

Call me weird but I just LOVE the way receivers look. Always wanted one. Even in the days I thought they did nothing but hold your cables together, I still wanted one ;)

Sooo... What amp would you go for that costs about $100?Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

Trust me, you'll want an amp.

and by want I actually mean need :P

Seriously, it opens up a whole new world. Also you'll most likely end up replacing the stock wire.

Mozelleple112

5 * 90w... Would that suffice?

Def out of your price rang, but check this Schiit out.

Worth saving for especially with power requirements of your new cans. (5 year warranty too ;) )

$270, wow! I was thinking of getting something in that range instead of upgrading the speakers, since i rarely bump those loudly because people will just complain. They would have to closed though as i listen to Metal as well so open phones are a no go :) Stay away from Yamaha, the receivers i see are Denon, Pioneer and Marants for higher-end, thinking about a Denon myself because i'm out of HDMI slots. Has anyone tried the bithead for $100 from Headphones.com?X360PS3AMD05

1. Amplifiers are not necessary to provide higher volume levels, though that is a side-benefit should you enjoy listening to your music at higher volumes. Amplifiers provide a higher dynamic range, meaning the soft sounds are softer and the loud sounds are louder. You also need sufficient power to push your drivers; some are more power-hungry than others, and will sound better with superior or higher-powered amplifiers. So even if you "rarely bump those loudly," you'll still see some benefit from a high-quality amplifier.
2. Yamaha makes excellent amplifiers; I'm not sure where you got the idea that they do not. They have three lines of products: The HTR, RX, and Aventage lines. They are designed mostly for different distribution models, but in general the HTR is going to be a more mainstream and entry-level line, the RX is your full-line of receivers (including the amazing RX-Z11, which is over $5,000), and the Aventage line that caters more towards high-end home-theater and digital media users. Yamaha's modeling system general sees a sizable improvement in quality in the 1,000's lineup, meaning the RX-A1000 is a significant improvement over the RX-A800, but the RX-A800 is not as significant an improvement over the RX-A700. Think of it like a car: The Subaru Impreza 2.2 and Impreza 2.5 are essentially the same car, though one has a more powerful engine. You have to step up to the WRX to see a huge difference.

Denon, Pioneer, Marantz, Onkyo, and many other manufacturers have both good and bad products in their lineup to appeal to a variety of customers. Rare is the firm that can be profitable long-term appealing exclusively to high-end customers (though it does happen).

Boz

How's this amp?

Get this:

Peachtree Nova

Get this:

Peachtree Nova

i_am_the_slime

[QUOTE="i_am_the_slime"]

Get this:

Peachtree Nova

Mozelleple112

It's a DAC, a headphone amp, and a (2 channel) integrated amp. I have my computer and playstation hooked up to it and i listen to music, blu-ray , and games on either my K701s or speakers. If all you want is a cheap headphone amp, this might not be what you want but if you are looking for a whole system, it's hard to beat the value of the Nova.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="i_am_the_slime"]

Get this:

Peachtree Nova

i_am_the_slime

It's a DAC, a headphone amp, and a (2 channel) integrated amp. I have my computer and playstation hooked up to it and i listen to music, blu-ray , and games on either my K701s or speakers. If all you want is a cheap headphone amp, this might not be what you want but if you are looking for a whole system, it's hard to beat the value of the Nova.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]$270, wow! I was thinking of getting something in that range instead of upgrading the speakers, since i rarely bump those loudly because people will just complain. They would have to closed though as i listen to Metal as well so open phones are a no go :) Stay away from Yamaha, the receivers i see are Denon, Pioneer and Marants for higher-end, thinking about a Denon myself because i'm out of HDMI slots. Has anyone tried the bithead for $100 from Headphones.com?Bozanimal

1. Amplifiers are not necessary to provide higher volume levels, though that is a side-benefit should you enjoy listening to your music at higher volumes. Amplifiers provide a higher dynamic range, meaning the soft sounds are softer and the loud sounds are louder. You also need sufficient power to push your drivers; some are more power-hungry than others, and will sound better with superior or higher-powered amplifiers. So even if you "rarely bump those loudly," you'll still see some benefit from a high-quality amplifier.
2. Yamaha makes excellent amplifiers; I'm not sure where you got the idea that they do not. They have three lines of products: The HTR, RX, and Aventage lines. They are designed mostly for different distribution models, but in general the HTR is going to be a more mainstream and entry-level line, the RX is your full-line of receivers (including the amazing RX-Z11, which is over $5,000), and the Aventage line that caters more towards high-end home-theater and digital media users. Yamaha's modeling system general sees a sizable improvement in quality in the 1,000's lineup, meaning the RX-A1000 is a significant improvement over the RX-A800, but the RX-A800 is not as significant an improvement over the RX-A700. Think of it like a car: The Subaru Impreza 2.2 and Impreza 2.5 are essentially the same car, though one has a more powerful engine. You have to step up to the WRX to see a huge difference.

Denon, Pioneer, Marantz, Onkyo, and many other manufacturers have both good and bad products in their lineup to appeal to a variety of customers. Rare is the firm that can be profitable long-term appealing exclusively to high-end customers (though it does happen).

Boz

Yamaha RX-Z11, Epson TW5500, Klipsch 11.2 reference series, SVS ultra etc..

April Fools? Unless you mean as a single unit only.

NVIDIATI

What separates do you suggest that outperform the Nova for less than $1200?

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

April Fools? Unless you mean as a single unit only.

i_am_the_slime

What separates do you suggest that outperform the Nova for less than $1200?

Personally I would go with something like this: (there are many other options depending on the headphones and speakers being powered ie high sensitivity speakers)

• Emotiva XDA-1 Reference DAC/Pre Amp (Balanced XLR) - $300 (this mightnot be the best DAC for $300, there may be other options)
• 2x Emotiva UPA-1 Monoblock Amp (continuous 200w @ 8 Ohms, w/ XLR) -$600 ($300 each)
• Little Dot MKIV Headphone Amp/Pre Amp (Tube)- $300

Depending on the speakers being powered the UPA-1s may be a bit much. Though as for a single unit the Peachtree gear will take up much less space and still produce some amazing sound. Again the Nova maybe a star in the mass market, but looking past that there are more options.

Also Seperates alow for a much more versitile system, allowing you to change or upgrade parts when you feel the need.

Anyways this type of gear is way out of TC's budget and also would serve him no purpose. Not to mention he is in Norway so the prices would be even higher. And peachtree outside of the states is generally marked up. Example in Canada the Nova is $1400 and the CAD is higher than the USD.

[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]$270, wow! I was thinking of getting something in that range instead of upgrading the speakers, since i rarely bump those loudly because people will just complain. They would have to closed though as i listen to Metal as well so open phones are a no go :) Stay away from Yamaha, the receivers i see are Denon, Pioneer and Marants for higher-end, thinking about a Denon myself because i'm out of HDMI slots. Has anyone tried the bithead for $100 from Headphones.com?Mozelleple112

1. Amplifiers are not necessary to provide higher volume levels, though that is a side-benefit should you enjoy listening to your music at higher volumes. Amplifiers provide a higher dynamic range, meaning the soft sounds are softer and the loud sounds are louder. You also need sufficient power to push your drivers; some are more power-hungry than others, and will sound better with superior or higher-powered amplifiers. So even if you "rarely bump those loudly," you'll still see some benefit from a high-quality amplifier.
2. Yamaha makes excellent amplifiers; I'm not sure where you got the idea that they do not. They have three lines of products: The HTR, RX, and Aventage lines. They are designed mostly for different distribution models, but in general the HTR is going to be a more mainstream and entry-level line, the RX is your full-line of receivers (including the amazing RX-Z11, which is over $5,000), and the Aventage line that caters more towards high-end home-theater and digital media users. Yamaha's modeling system general sees a sizable improvement in quality in the 1,000's lineup, meaning the RX-A1000 is a significant improvement over the RX-A800, but the RX-A800 is not as significant an improvement over the RX-A700. Think of it like a car: The Subaru Impreza 2.2 and Impreza 2.5 are essentially the same car, though one has a more powerful engine. You have to step up to the WRX to see a huge difference.

Denon, Pioneer, Marantz, Onkyo, and many other manufacturers have both good and bad products in their lineup to appeal to a variety of customers. Rare is the firm that can be profitable long-term appealing exclusively to high-end customers (though it does happen).

Boz

Yamaha RX-Z11, Epson TW5500, Klipsch 11.2 reference series, SVS ultra etc..

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]Two things:

1. Amplifiers are not necessary to provide higher volume levels, though that is a side-benefit should you enjoy listening to your music at higher volumes. Amplifiers provide a higher dynamic range, meaning the soft sounds are softer and the loud sounds are louder. You also need sufficient power to push your drivers; some are more power-hungry than others, and will sound better with superior or higher-powered amplifiers. So even if you "rarely bump those loudly," you'll still see some benefit from a high-quality amplifier.
2. Yamaha makes excellent amplifiers; I'm not sure where you got the idea that they do not. They have three lines of products: The HTR, RX, and Aventage lines. They are designed mostly for different distribution models, but in general the HTR is going to be a more mainstream and entry-level line, the RX is your full-line of receivers (including the amazing RX-Z11, which is over $5,000), and the Aventage line that caters more towards high-end home-theater and digital media users. Yamaha's modeling system general sees a sizable improvement in quality in the 1,000's lineup, meaning the RX-A1000 is a significant improvement over the RX-A800, but the RX-A800 is not as significant an improvement over the RX-A700. Think of it like a car: The Subaru Impreza 2.2 and Impreza 2.5 are essentially the same car, though one has a more powerful engine. You have to step up to the WRX to see a huge difference.

Denon, Pioneer, Marantz, Onkyo, and many other manufacturers have both good and bad products in their lineup to appeal to a variety of customers. Rare is the firm that can be profitable long-term appealing exclusively to high-end customers (though it does happen).

Boz

NVIDIATI

Yamaha RX-Z11, Epson TW5500, Klipsch 11.2 reference series, SVS ultra etc..

Also Nvidati, as I can't message you I'll ask you here:

You're from Canada, yes? If so...

Where do in Canada do you buy ultra-fi ? like Snell, Kharma, McIntosh, Mark Levinson, B&W top models etc...

and where do you buy your regular hi-fi ? like sennheiser headphones, rolls amps, etc...

It's pretty scary that you could tell exactly what amp he used from that angle. But I think you're right. His cinema is a beast, and what you said may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that he chose to buy that Yamaha over something like say, Denon AVR 3311...

Also Nvidati, as I can't message you I'll ask you here:

You're from Canada, yes? If so...

Where do in Canada do you buy ultra-fi ? like Snell, Kharma, McIntosh, Mark Levinson, B&W top models etc...

and where do you buy your regular hi-fi ? like sennheiser headphones, rolls amps, etc...

Mozelleple112

(@ the 1st part) the Yamaha receiver is just being used as an amp for the rear and a processor, so it really doesn't say how it would compare to something like a Denon as he could have always just purchased a separate processor, and other amps for his rear.

(@ the 2nd part) in Canada there are loads of ways to get hi-fi or ultra-fi. You can always order things in through sites like higher-fi. There is also a massive online trade network for audio gear and there's usually some high end equipment listed, its called Canuck Audio Mart. There are also loads of dealers or stores. Using a few stores in and around Toronto as an example,

BayBloor Radio - deals equipment/gear from companies like Yamaha, Denon, Pioneer Elite, Peachtree, NAD, Panasonic, Sennheiser, Grado, Totem, Bose, Definitive Technology etc. (they have some exclusive equipment such as the 103inch Panasonic plasma).

Kromer Radio - deals similar equipment to BayBloor, but will also have companies such as monitor audio, Paradigm, etc.

Audio One - deals equipment from Paradigm (reference), Anthem (statement), Bryston, Bowers and Wilkins (full range), Panasonic, Pioneer, etc.

Stores such as Executive Stereo and others,will deal rare equipment or other uncommon (for NA) brands, such as Highland, NTT, Gershman, NHT, Cambridge, McIntosh, Hovland, etc.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

It's pretty scary that you could tell exactly what amp he used from that angle. But I think you're right. His cinema is a beast, and what you said may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that he chose to buy that Yamaha over something like say, Denon AVR 3311...

Also Nvidati, as I can't message you I'll ask you here:

You're from Canada, yes? If so...

Where do in Canada do you buy ultra-fi ? like Snell, Kharma, McIntosh, Mark Levinson, B&W top models etc...

and where do you buy your regular hi-fi ? like sennheiser headphones, rolls amps, etc...

NVIDIATI

(@ the 1st part) the Yamaha receiver is just being used as an amp for the rear and a processor, so it really doesn't say how it would compare to something like a Denon as he could have always just purchased a separate processor, and other amps for his rear.

(@ the 2nd part) in Canada there are loads of ways to get hi-fi or ultra-fi. You can always order things in through sites like higher-fi, there is a massive online trade network for audio gear and there are usually some high end equipment listed, its called Canuck Audio Mart. There are also loads of dealers or stores. Using a few stores in and around Toronto as an example,

BayBloor Radio - deals equipment/gear from companies like Yamaha, Denon, Pioneer Elite, Peachtree, NAD, Panasonic, Sennheiser, Grado, Totem, Bose, Definitive Technology etc. (they have some exclusive equipment such as the 103inch Panasonic plasma).

Kromer Radio - deals similar equipment to BayBloor, but will also have companies such as monitor audio, Paradigm, etc.

Audio One - deals equipment from Paradigm (reference), Anthem (statement), Bryston, Bowers and Wilkins (full range), Panasonic, Pioneer, etc.

Stores such as Executive Stereo and others,will deal rare equipment or other uncommon (for NA) brands, such as Highland, NTT, Gershman, NHT, Cambridge, McIntosh, Hovland, etc.

I just noticed Baybloor sold Sennheisers etc... but lol! $169.99 CAD for Sennheiser HD 555? What is this madness...!

A Canadian from another forum wants the best headphone/amp setup for $150. What would you suggest? I originally suggested Sennheiser HD 555 + rolls amp thinking Canada had +/- the same prices lol. (I expected it to be $10-15 MAX $20 more expensive lol!)

Thanks bro 8)

I just noticed Baybloor sold Sennheisers etc... but lol! $169.99 CAD for Sennheiser HD 555? What is this madness...!

A Canadian from another forum wants the best headphone/amp setup for $150. What would you suggest? I originally suggested Sennheiser HD 555 + rolls amp thinking Canada had +/- the same prices lol. (I expected it to be $10-15 MAX $20 more expensive lol!)

Mozelleple112