MW2, I feel lied to.

Ok, so I kept hearing from here and friends in RL, that mw2 didn't lag, I was always like "BS, what if someone on the network is torrenting? Or even downloading? And of course not to mention a lack of cpu power could make it very painful". They then reply to basically, it will switch hosts over(which it doesn't).

The lag is noticible, pretty much in every game. It's not my internet btw. Actually that's one of the last things it would be, I have a 13200/2200 connection, and a handbuilt FreeBSD pfsense router, that prioritizes the ports MW2 uses(configured by me)

LAG LAG LAG, out of atleast 10 gaves, 3 of them will be rediculously laggy, regardless of what those useless bars say. And how does this game even calculate the best host? It didn't do speedtests, I checked my bandwidth graph up from my router, and it didn't do any testing whatsoever. It probably just looks at the computer specs and checks, regardless of their internet. If even that, I doubt it even makes each player ping eachother to find the best person in the middle.

There is almost always a delay, even if it is very small, using a shotgun or something you can tell. And a lot of the games the lag is unbearable, and of course a few others are complaining. This is just a casual game, seriously I feel lied to, I skipped mw for this. Even though I played MW constantly when my friends let me use his steam account, I loved it. And I was playing MW1 just before purchasing mw2.

(Also I am fairly picky when it comes to online gaming, hell I host my own dedicated servers for a few games, so I know what is crap) P2P just doesn't work when there are so many different type of system configurations are possible. P2P in general for latency dependant apps is a really bad idea. I have no idea why this picked this crap.

So what do you guys think of MW2's online?

Youre just unlucky it seems=) For me the mp experiance has been very smooth. I did not even have play around with my router so my nat is strict and everything runs fine. Id say 1 out of 5 games is laggy and thats it. I have more problems with L4D2.

You're late to the party. And you're also lucky that you only had lag issues. Cheaters and hackers run lawless because of VAC (or lack of it :P ).

I barely ever have lag must just be you..Shadowhawk000

[QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]I barely ever have lag must just be you..JigglyWiggly_

There are also alot of people screaming hackers, campers, noobtubers and so on. That does not mean these are problem that plague the game. Some people experiance issues thats just how it is. My friends havent had issues not even with hackers. I thought i saw a hacker once becouse he was moving way too fast and knifing people, but in reality he wasnt hacking he was using the care package trick that allows you to run very fast.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]I barely ever have lag must just be you..rzepak

There are also alot of people screaming hackers, campers, noobtubers and so on. That does not mean these are problem that plague the game. Some people experiance issues thats just how it is. My friends havent had issues not even with hackers. I thought i saw a hacker once becouse he was moving way too fast and knifing people, but in reality he wasnt hacking he was using the care package trick that allows you to run very fast.

I have no lag either. And I'm sharing my net with 2 other people!!

Lied to... I mean we dont know what the state of your PC and net configurations are.

People can only go by their own experiences.

The worst thing about IW system is not being able to see who is the host or atleast to vote a host change if the game lags.

There's a little bit of lag, sure.. I could've told you that. :) But also my connection isn't the greatest.. 5 Mbps DSL. So my ping is probably around ~150. If the lag is really bad it usually migrates the host... if it doesn't, just find a new game. I don't really consider it that big of a deal. Yeah it's not like a 100 tic CS server that I get a ping of 5 to.. but it's still easily playable, and the game is lots of fun.

I am a big proponent of MW2... but the lag can be painful at times. I really wish it had dedicated servers.

I'm still tempted to buy it.rmfd341

[QUOTE="rmfd341"]I'm still tempted to buy it.Dark_prince123

Youre just unlucky it seems=) For me the mp experiance has been very smooth. I did not even have play around with my router so my nat is strict and everything runs fine. Id say 1 out of 5 games is laggy and thats it. I have more problems with L4D2.

rzepak

Yeah me too I have very smooth gameplay.

I have yet to come across lag in ANY match I've played in. And I'm running off wifi.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Shadowhawk000"]I barely ever have lag must just be you..rzepak

There are also alot of people screaming hackers, campers, noobtubers and so on. That does not mean these are problem that plague the game. Some people experiance issues thats just how it is. My friends havent had issues not even with hackers. I thought i saw a hacker once becouse he was moving way too fast and knifing people, but in reality he wasnt hacking he was using the care package trick that allows you to run very fast.

I don't have lag much, and when i do, its on my end. I have not dealt with cheating or hacking whatsoever. What am i saying basically? The game is enjoyable for me and I am content with this product.

I don't have lag much, and when i do, its on my end. I have not dealt with cheating or hacking whatsoever. What am i saying basically? The game is enjoyable for me and I am content with this product.

Aslyum_Beast

lied to? you knew it was P2P. of course it's going to be worse than dedis. alot worse.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] It ain't every other game is fine. And of course there are others saying "LAG LAG"DabsTight703

There are also alot of people screaming hackers, campers, noobtubers and so on. That does not mean these are problem that plague the game. Some people experiance issues thats just how it is. My friends havent had issues not even with hackers. I thought i saw a hacker once becouse he was moving way too fast and knifing people, but in reality he wasnt hacking he was using the care package trick that allows you to run very fast.

lied to? you knew it was P2P. of course it's going to be worse than dedis. alot worse.

lespaul1919

its nothing speccial just cod 4 with more options not realy anything inorvative if you ask me most shooters are the same

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

lied to? you knew it was P2P. of course it's going to be worse than dedis. alot worse.

kraychik

That isn't really the case, since if you have dedicated servers you can choose the server with the lowest ping, while p2p automatically lets you join a game. In this aspect, dedicated servers still win.

I have yet to come across lag in ANY match I've played in. And I'm running off wifi.

Steameffekt

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

lied to? you knew it was P2P. of course it's going to be worse than dedis. alot worse.

kraychik

The game doesn't lag any more than other games with dedicated servers, i.e. L4D and L4D2. Dedicated servers don't eliminate lag, either. Gaming doesn't require lots of bandwidth, anyways. P2P support is just fine for MW2. As was said by another poster in this thread, perhaps you're just unlucky. MW2 definitely has flaws, but lag isn't one of them. Dedicated servers are more about offering various gameplay options. Also, having dedicated servers allows gamers to bookmark their favorite servers. There's no doubt that dedicated servers would be a great offering, but with respect to performance P2P is equal to dedicated servers for the most part. Anyways, I've clocked in about 40 hours of MW2 and the lag that exists is nothing out-of-the-ordinary. kraychik

[QUOTE="Dark_prince123"][QUOTE="rmfd341"]I'm still tempted to buy it.kraychik

If you guys think 150-200 ping average is good then you are all on something. When just about everyone that has the same ping and is below 200 you wont see the "lag" but when it spikes or going beyond 200 you will see it. I hate my ping to be above 150 because you see, someone you shoot but then but your dead because the guy who shot you has a better ping or is the host. MW2's P2P just sucks and even L4D 1&2's P2P but there are options unlike MW2.04dcarraher

this game is a classic example of the developers making something good and then throwing it in our faces

with the way these game companies are i dont think this will change

it is all about the money

The worst thing about IW system is not being able to see who is the host or atleast to vote a host change if the game lags.

rzepak

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]If you guys think 150-200 ping average is good then you are all on something. When just about everyone that has the same ping and is below 200 you wont see the "lag" but when it spikes or going beyond 200 you will see it. I hate my ping to be above 150 because you see, someone you shoot but then but your dead because the guy who shot you has a better ping or is the host. MW2's P2P just sucks and even L4D 1&2's P2P but there are options unlike MW2.JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]If you guys think 150-200 ping average is good then you are all on something. When just about everyone that has the same ping and is below 200 you wont see the "lag" but when it spikes or going beyond 200 you will see it. I hate my ping to be above 150 because you see, someone you shoot but then but your dead because the guy who shot you has a better ping or is the host. MW2's P2P just sucks and even L4D 1&2's P2P but there are options unlike MW2.Agent_Kaliaver

Eh 250 is unplayable. My ideal ping is 40ms. I mean if I am playing a game, I really want lag to not be a factor whatsoever. 40 ms ping is very manageable for player west of Texas. (I live in California).

With QOS (my friend built one of these routers as well), in games, he lives in Florida. He gets about 90ms pings on my server. Which is pretty good, for someone on the opposite side of the country. Of course in mw2, I always get bad ping times, and not mention packet loss.

(Also I am picky, but just go grab a bunch of high end random nerdy CAL css players, they will hate MW2)

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

lied to? you knew it was P2P. of course it's going to be worse than dedis. alot worse.

BLUBBBER

That isn't really the case, since if you have dedicated servers you can choose the server with the lowest ping, while p2p automatically lets you join a game. In this aspect, dedicated servers still win.

[QUOTE="kraychik"]The game doesn't lag any more than other games with dedicated servers, i.e. L4D and L4D2. Dedicated servers don't eliminate lag, either. Gaming doesn't require lots of bandwidth, anyways. P2P support is just fine for MW2. As was said by another poster in this thread, perhaps you're just unlucky. MW2 definitely has flaws, but lag isn't one of them. Dedicated servers are more about offering various gameplay options. Also, having dedicated servers allows gamers to bookmark their favorite servers. There's no doubt that dedicated servers would be a great offering, but with respect to performance P2P is equal to dedicated servers for the most part. Anyways, I've clocked in about 40 hours of MW2 and the lag that exists is nothing out-of-the-ordinary. JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="kraychik"]The game doesn't lag any more than other games with dedicated servers, i.e. L4D and L4D2. Dedicated servers don't eliminate lag, either. Gaming doesn't require lots of bandwidth, anyways. P2P support is just fine for MW2. As was said by another poster in this thread, perhaps you're just unlucky. MW2 definitely has flaws, but lag isn't one of them. Dedicated servers are more about offering various gameplay options. Also, having dedicated servers allows gamers to bookmark their favorite servers. There's no doubt that dedicated servers would be a great offering, but with respect to performance P2P is equal to dedicated servers for the most part. Anyways, I've clocked in about 40 hours of MW2 and the lag that exists is nothing out-of-the-ordinary. kraychik

I don't think people really care about L4D. Lots of competitive shooter players have played a lot of CSS.. myself and some friends have now been playing more MW2 than ever. You can't help but draw comparisons between a dedicated CSS server and some random CoD server. Imagine what it would be like to play MW2 on the equivalent of a 100 tic server that you ping less than 50 to.. prob be a totally different experience.

that game betrayed me by being on the evil and hated steam

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="Dark_prince123"] just buy it man I live in yemen and I play with guys in canada and USA and the game runs great . Kh1ndjal