my 9800 gtx and update if its worth

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#1 kombra
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hi

i am using the 9800 gtx and i want to know if its worth to give money for 260 or 280 or the 290 and 270 for to play the latest pc games;;;

is it worth will i see something different in the pc games ;; or to keep my 9800 and to update in summer;;;;

for the newest cards;;;

the pc games do it need really the 280 and 260 cards for to play;;; with my 9800 gtx will i be happy to play the pc games until summer;;

in revoltuions 1920 @ 1080;;;

what the forums says about the performance between 9800gtx and 280 and 260;; is there a big disstance between these 3 cards;;;

so to keep my 9800 gtx for 5 months more;;;

will i see very big performance in 280 and 260;;; or not

if someone has the 9800 gtx does he need to update in 280 and 260;;;

for to play the pc games;;;

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#2 quinnnguyen
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My advice is to stick with the 9800 until the next series cards come out or if you can afford the GTX 295 then go for that.
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#3 kombra
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so the 9800 gtx does have big difference in pc games from 280 and 260;;;

can you tell me the reasons please;;

i want to know them if you can please;;

tell me why to keep my 9800 gtx is there big difference in pc games performance l;ike far cry 2 and fall out and more pc games;;;

280 and 260 is liitle performance in pc games from 9800 gtx which i have;;;

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#4 XRED_0
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I think the only upgrade worth it from a 9800GTX is at minimum, the GTX 260 core 216. If you've got the bank, go for the 280, but a 9800gtx to a regular gtx260 is a waste, IMO. If I were you and your PSU can handle it, pick up another 9800GTX and SLI them. If I recall from other benchmarks, 2 9800gtx's outperform a gtx260 easily. That's what I did, and I couldn't be happier. And not that expensive. Dunno where you buy your stuff, but I picked up a 9800gtx from newegg.com for under $150 USD. I just hate upgrading the graphics card and then having an old one just sitting there....
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#5 XRED_0
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Also, forgot to mention, but try and overclock that 9800GTX with Rivatuner to get a little more juice out of it. Here's a good site I found for mine that gives a general area as to its OCing limitations, so if you don't have the time (or patience :P) to run tests, just put the speeds at when this guy over at Tweaktown did and call it a day. http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1377/print/
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#6 kombra
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what you mean 9800 gtx from gtx260 is a waste;;

what you mean;;

so if stay with my 9800 gtx uuntil summer will i play the pc games very good;;

can you help me please;;

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#7 XRED_0
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I mean for the amount of money you would spend on a regular core (192 cores, I believe) GTX260, the performance gain you would see, if at all, would not be worth it, especially with a healthy overclock on a 9800GTX.
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#8 kombra
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so with ,y 9800 gtx will i play the pc games until summer very good;;

and one more thing

the pc games gtva will it plays good with ,my 9800 gtx;;;

can you help me please;;

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#9 STAR_Admiral
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You should be able to play GTA4 excellently, your well above the recommended 9600 GT. There is no reason to upgrade 9800 GTX. Also your asking if you can play the game well is a very vague term. I know there are people who will upgrade their whole computer so just they can play a game at ultra high instead of high. Me i'm happy as long as i can play it at the native resolution of my monitor on low. You need to be more specific of your expectations.
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#10 kombra
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what you mean to be more specified΄΄;;;

i have core 2 8400

4 giga ddr2 ram

9800 gtx

and 780 sli asus striker

dont tell me that i have to update my 8400 and to go in quad cores or i7;;

in how many to change my 8400;;;

will my 8400 last for 2 years from for pc games;;

and the only thing to change in summer to be ,my videocard;;;

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#11 kombra
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and i have one monitor lg 27 size 1920 @ 1080 is it for pc games my monitor 27 size;; 1920 @ 1080p
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#12 XRED_0
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GTA4 will run fairly well. I used to have pretty much the same rig save the motherboard. The bottleneck you're gotta get w/ GTA4 tho is your CPU. If you're really lookin' for good FPS w/ it you're gonna have to go quad.
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#13 kombra
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why to go in quad;;; with 8400 is very good for pc games do i need quad core ;; for this game;; and one more thing with 9800 gtx will i play this game very good;; and one more thing my 9800 gtx will it play the pc games veru good until summer;;; ;;is it worth to upgrade in 260 and 280;;; will i see big difference in 9800 and 260 and 280;; can you help me please;;
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#14 kombra
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can you helpe please;;
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Here is a review of GTA 4 with hardware comparison. In the review they say that GTA 4 is very CPU dependent and GPU doesn't help much. Even going from a 9800 GT to GTX 280 resulted in only a small change in performance. While changing the CPU from an e8400 to a Q6600 was masive. Basically upgrading your GTX to an 260 will result in a very small change..

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669595/Reviews/GTA_4_PC_CPU_benchmark_review_with_13_processors/

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Here is a review of GTA 4 with hardware comparison. In the review they say that GTA 4 is very CPU dependent and GPU doesn't help much. Even going from a 9800 GT to GTX 280 resulted in only a small change in performance. While changing the CPU from an e8400 to a Q6600 was masive. Basically upgrading your GTX to an 260 will result in a very small change..

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669595/Reviews/GTA_4_PC_CPU_benchmark_review_with_13_processors/

STAR_Admiral

From what I see they have similar performance...:roll:

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#17 kombra
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so with my 8400 will i play the pc game very good;;;;

and with my 9800 gtx will i play it very good am right;;;

so i dont nees 280 and 260 to pl;ay this game am i right;;;

yes or not;;;

so with my 8400 will i play very good this games am i right;;

i see 6600 and 8400 has the same performnce in this game am right;;

can you help me please;;

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#18 kombra
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can you help me please;;

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#19 kombra
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do they have the similar performcmance 8400 and 6600;;;;

can you help me please;;

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#20 kombra
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please;;;;
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#21 theragu40
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What else do you want to know?? Everyone has told you pretty much everything there is to tell. You will be just fine with your current setup, as long as you don't want to run GTA4 at maximum settings. If you want to run it at max, you MUST have a quad core processor. That's just how it was coded by Rockstar. It's a shoddy port, and poorly optimized, but there you have it. Your graphics card is fine, your motherboard is fine, your processor is fine. Everything is fine. You *could* upgrade if you wanted, and yes that would give you better performance, but there is no need for it, as your computer will run anything out there right now.
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#22 XRED_0
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This post might give you a better idea.... http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26702882&tag=topics;title
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#23 kombra
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i read this article

so if i am corect it says that this games was runned in quad core and core 2 duo and it gad the same performance

am i right;;;

am i corect;;;

so with my 8400 i will play this games very good in high settings am i right ;;;

yes or no;;

this article this thing it says am i right;;

so not to be worried for this games in my core 2 8400 am i right;;;

can you help me please;;

and to tell me this articles what is saying about for quad core and core 2 duo;;

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[QUOTE="Sordidus"][QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]

Here is a review of GTA 4 with hardware comparison. In the review they say that GTA 4 is very CPU dependent and GPU doesn't help much. Even going from a 9800 GT to GTX 280 resulted in only a small change in performance. While changing the CPU from an e8400 to a Q6600 was masive. Basically upgrading your GTX to an 260 will result in a very small change..

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669595/Reviews/GTA_4_PC_CPU_benchmark_review_with_13_processors/

From what I see they have similar performance...:roll:

The 8400 is overcloced to 4.2ghz if you noticed, while the Q6600 is stock
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#25 _rpg_FAN
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Its not everything about GPU mybe your processor is not up the task or something else.

If i was you i would stick with 9800 and upgrade something else - or ask myself "is there really need for upgrade??"

Mybe it would be bether to buy new console for price of upgrade because 10 fps increase from 40 to 50 is not much and some console exclusive games are awesome

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[QUOTE="Sordidus"][QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]

Here is a review of GTA 4 with hardware comparison. In the review they say that GTA 4 is very CPU dependent and GPU doesn't help much. Even going from a 9800 GT to GTX 280 resulted in only a small change in performance. While changing the CPU from an e8400 to a Q6600 was masive. Basically upgrading your GTX to an 260 will result in a very small change..

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669595/Reviews/GTA_4_PC_CPU_benchmark_review_with_13_processors/

STAR_Admiral

From what I see they have similar performance...:roll:

The 8400 is overcloced to 4.2ghz if you noticed, while the Q6600 is stock

No, the E8400 is on stock too (3Ghz), are you blind...?

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#27 kombra
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i read this article so if i am corect it says that this games was runned in quad core and core 2 duo and it gad the same performance am i right;;; am i corect;;; so with my 8400 i will play this games very good in high settings am i right ;;; yes or no;; this article this thing it says am i right;; so not to be worried for this games in my core 2 8400 am i right;;; can you help me please;; and to tell me this articles what is saying about for quad core and core 2 duo;;
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#28 XRED_0
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I was pretty surprised to see the framerates they got w/ GTAIV with that overclocked C2D compared to the quads. And here I was throwing around the idea of upgrading.....
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#29 kombra
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i read this article so if i am corect it says that this games was runned in quad core and core 2 duo and it gad the same performance am i right;;; am i corect;;; so with my 8400 i will play this games very good in high settings am i right ;;; yes or no;; this article this thing it says am i right;; so not to be worried for this games in my core 2 8400 am i right;;; can you help me please;; and to tell me this articles what is saying about for quad core and core 2 duo;;
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#30 kombra
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please;;
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#31 kombra
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can you help me please;;
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#32 XRED_0
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Yes, you are right. I have mine overclocked to 4.0 and I have ZERO CPU-related issues when playing games, save GTA IV which is nominal as you can see from the above posted article.
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#33 kombra
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and with my 9800 gtx will i play the pc games very good in full settings until summer;;;

is it worth to buy the new card on nvdia gtx290 or to wait for the gtx300;;;

and if with my 9800 gtx will i be able to play the pc games until summer very good;;;

so what to do;;

will the pc games play very good with my 9800 gtx until summer;;;

can you help me please;;

is it worth to jump into gtx290 will i see something diiffrence or to buy the gtx300 in summer;;;;

until then will i be able to play the pc games very good with my 9800 gtx wihich i have΄΄΄΄;;;

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Nvidia has you wrapped around their fingers.
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#35 kombra
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and with my 9800 gtx will i play the pc games very good in full settings until summer;;;

is it worth to buy the new card on nvdia gtx290 or to wait for the gtx300;;;

and if with my 9800 gtx will i be able to play the pc games until summer very good;;;

so what to do;;

will the pc games play very good with my 9800 gtx until summer;;;

can you help me please;;

is it worth to jump into gtx290 will i see something diiffrence or to buy the gtx300 in summer;;;;

until then will i be able to play the pc games very good with my 9800 gtx wihich i have΄΄΄΄;;;

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#36 kombra
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please;; can you help me all this questions which i have;;;

\please;;

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#37 kombra
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please;;
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#38 Roman_UG
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Your a complete and utter retard stop begging your ass off and putting ;; at the end of every fricking word you say, everybody told you what to do, I will make it clear to you so you stop asking so many questions and people stop wasting their time..
YOU DO NOT NEED TO UPGRADE YOUR GRAPHICS CARD, IT IS VERY GOOD AT THIS TIME, OVER CLOCKING IT WITH RIVA TUNER WILL MAKE IT FASTER IF YOU NEED TO!!! THERE IS VERY LITTLE PERFORMANCE GAIN IF YOU UPGRADE TO THE GTX260 OR 280, IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY!!!
YOU DO NOT NEED TO GO QUAD CORE, JUST OVERCLOCK YOUR CPU!!!

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES YOU BE VERY VERY GOOD SUMMER PLAY GOOD YES!

Now shut the hell up and use google next time.

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#39 Roman_UG
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Oh god I should have let you waste your money, you spoiled Portugese kid,
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#40 XRED_0
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as much as i don't share Romans enthusiasm.....kombra, we've given you plenty of info on what you need, you might be being a little persistent here bud.
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#41 Roman_UG
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=( I wasnt being enthusiastic, although I did have a little fun, I was trying to CLEARLY explain to him with caps! xD
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#42 millerlight89
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Roman is right though this guy is a utter pain in the butt, from what I have read this seems to be a joke topic b/c he has nothing better to do or he is just on annoying person.
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#43 kemar7856
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thats such a waste it's still agreat card and can play everything on max
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#44 kombra
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ok i will keep my card

i have one question

they told me if i want to overclock my card with riva tuner

i download riva tuner but i dont know how to to use it

so can you help me step by step how to overclock my card with this programm please;;

i have opened this program now so can you help me now please;;

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#45 XRED_0
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Open it up, click the customize arrow next to the driver settings and "ForceWare detected." Prob its gonna ask you to rebuild something and just select without restart, or something like that. Then unselect link clocks and overclock at will. Also, you wanna select "Apply overclocking at Windows Startup" towards the bottom of that window. Here's a good article about how much they can be pushed. I just clocked mine slightly under this guy and called it a day. http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1377/print/