My fears for MAX PAYNE 3

1. It will look and play like GTA4

2. Max Payne 2 graphics will look better [they hold up very well even today]

3. sucky console gameplay. PC should have its own development team but these days thats wishful thinking.

4. a cover system [i'm not entirely against this but it has to be used intelliegntly with bullet time. it shoudnt make bullet time obsolete]

5. bullet time may not be expanded upon and will resort to the basic "shoot right click slo motion bang bang" system.

6. THE STORY! the games have always been heavy with story and gameplay and i feel that it may suffer.

7. no SAM LAKE [don't know about his involvement but i'm guessing he's doing Alan Wake aatm]

8. NO REMEDY

9. a quick cash in akin to Soldier of Fortune 3

10. the engine they use : dont know which engine they are using but as long as its not UE3 or RAGE i'm happy. But its likely its the latter.

11. Why does Max Payne look like the bastard child of Kane [from kane and lynch] and Sam Fisher [splinter cell]? I get that he's older and thats all good but i'm not entirely sold on the look...yet.

12.HIS VOICE! it has to be Mccafferey from the first 2 otherwise its gonna go downhill faaaaaaast.

What I'm worrying about are two things:

1. The story. I'm not worried about the acting and animations but more about the story in general. I thought GTA4 had a pretty boring and a somewhat confusing story. It was entertaining to watch all the cinematics and see the drama but the story was kind of crap.

2. The style. The two original Max Payne games have this unique style that drew me in. Everything needs to come together in a certain way to create this style; the dramatic music; the realistic graphics; the comic book-like story telling combined with ingame cinematics at the right moments; the dark atmosphere and of course the realistic acting. I'm not sure if Rockstar will go for the same style because they might decide that they got a "better idea".

What I'm worrying about are two things:

1. The story. I'm not worried about the acting and animations but more about the story in general. I thought GTA4 had a pretty boring and a somewhat confusing story. It was entertaining to watch all the cinematics and see the drama but the story was kind of crap.

2. The style. The two original Max Payne games have this unique style that drew me in. Everything needs to come together in a certain way to create this style; the dramatic music; the realistic graphics; the comic book-like story telling combined with ingame cinematics at the right moments; the dark atmosphere and of course the realistic acting. I'm not sure if Rockstar will go for the same style because they might decide that they got a "better idea".

BlackAlpha666

exactly.if it ain't broke...

Looking at Bully and IV for the PC, you should be worried

Rockstar's key programmers left to work on APB back in 2005 in case your wondering what happened to the franchise after SA and Vice...

I agree. I friggin love Max Payne 1 & 2. It'll be hard to achieve the same amount of awesomeness. Plus it's on consoles so it will almost certainly fail.

1. It will look and play like GTA4

2. Max Payne 2 graphics will look better [they hold up very well even today]

3. sucky console gameplay. PC should have its own development team but these days thats wishful thinking.

4. a cover system [i'm not entirely against this but it has to be used intelliegntly with bullet time. it shoudnt make bullet time obsolete]

5. bullet time may not be expanded upon and will resort to the basic "shoot right click slo motion bang bang" system.

6. THE STORY! the games have always been heavy with story and gameplay and i feel that it may suffer.

7. no SAM LAKE [don't know about his involvement but i'm guessing he's doing Alan Wake aatm]

8. NO REMEDY

9. a quick cash in akin to Soldier of Fortune 3

10. the engine they use : dont know which engine they are using but as long as its not UE3 or RAGE i'm happy. But its likely its the latter.

11. Why does Max Payne look like the bastard child of Kane [from kane and lynch] and Sam Fisher [splinter cell]? I get that he's older and thats all good but i'm not entirely sold on the look...yet.

12.HIS VOICE! it has to be Mccafferey from the first 2 otherwise its gonna go downhill faaaaaaast.

crazyfist36

http://www.cracked.com/article_17142_5-ways-common-sense-lies-you-everyday.html

You might wanna take a look at number 3.

[QUOTE="crazyfist36"]

1. It will look and play like GTA4

2. Max Payne 2 graphics will look better [they hold up very well even today]

3. sucky console gameplay. PC should have its own development team but these days thats wishful thinking.

4. a cover system [i'm not entirely against this but it has to be used intelliegntly with bullet time. it shoudnt make bullet time obsolete]

5. bullet time may not be expanded upon and will resort to the basic "shoot right click slo motion bang bang" system.

6. THE STORY! the games have always been heavy with story and gameplay and i feel that it may suffer.

7. no SAM LAKE [don't know about his involvement but i'm guessing he's doing Alan Wake aatm]

8. NO REMEDY

9. a quick cash in akin to Soldier of Fortune 3

10. the engine they use : dont know which engine they are using but as long as its not UE3 or RAGE i'm happy. But its likely its the latter.

11. Why does Max Payne look like the bastard child of Kane [from kane and lynch] and Sam Fisher [splinter cell]? I get that he's older and thats all good but i'm not entirely sold on the look...yet.

12.HIS VOICE! it has to be Mccafferey from the first 2 otherwise its gonna go downhill faaaaaaast.

Baranga

http://www.cracked.com/article_17142_5-ways-common-sense-lies-you-everyday.html

You might wanna take a look at number 3.

so by murphy's law it will have sucky console gameplay.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="crazyfist36"]

1. It will look and play like GTA4

2. Max Payne 2 graphics will look better [they hold up very well even today]

3. sucky console gameplay. PC should have its own development team but these days thats wishful thinking.

4. a cover system [i'm not entirely against this but it has to be used intelliegntly with bullet time. it shoudnt make bullet time obsolete]

5. bullet time may not be expanded upon and will resort to the basic "shoot right click slo motion bang bang" system.

6. THE STORY! the games have always been heavy with story and gameplay and i feel that it may suffer.

7. no SAM LAKE [don't know about his involvement but i'm guessing he's doing Alan Wake aatm]

8. NO REMEDY

9. a quick cash in akin to Soldier of Fortune 3

10. the engine they use : dont know which engine they are using but as long as its not UE3 or RAGE i'm happy. But its likely its the latter.

11. Why does Max Payne look like the bastard child of Kane [from kane and lynch] and Sam Fisher [splinter cell]? I get that he's older and thats all good but i'm not entirely sold on the look...yet.

12.HIS VOICE! it has to be Mccafferey from the first 2 otherwise its gonna go downhill faaaaaaast.

http://www.cracked.com/article_17142_5-ways-common-sense-lies-you-everyday.html

You might wanna take a look at number 3.

so by murphy's law it will have sucky console gameplay.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="crazyfist36"]

1. It will look and play like GTA4

2. Max Payne 2 graphics will look better [they hold up very well even today]

3. sucky console gameplay. PC should have its own development team but these days thats wishful thinking.

4. a cover system [i'm not entirely against this but it has to be used intelliegntly with bullet time. it shoudnt make bullet time obsolete]

5. bullet time may not be expanded upon and will resort to the basic "shoot right click slo motion bang bang" system.

6. THE STORY! the games have always been heavy with story and gameplay and i feel that it may suffer.

7. no SAM LAKE [don't know about his involvement but i'm guessing he's doing Alan Wake aatm]

8. NO REMEDY

9. a quick cash in akin to Soldier of Fortune 3

10. the engine they use : dont know which engine they are using but as long as its not UE3 or RAGE i'm happy. But its likely its the latter.

11. Why does Max Payne look like the bastard child of Kane [from kane and lynch] and Sam Fisher [splinter cell]? I get that he's older and thats all good but i'm not entirely sold on the look...yet.

12.HIS VOICE! it has to be Mccafferey from the first 2 otherwise its gonna go downhill faaaaaaast.

crazyfist36

http://www.cracked.com/article_17142_5-ways-common-sense-lies-you-everyday.html

You might wanna take a look at number 3.

so by murphy's law it will have sucky console gameplay.

Murphy's law is a joke, really. The opposite of Murphy's law would be "Everything that can go right, will go right" and that is obviously not true. Besides, Murphy's law is somewhat of a paradox. Everybody could be hit by a meteor at any moment and die a horrible death. Everybody could be hit by a car at any moment and die a horrible death. But you can't die twice. You will either die from the first or the second but not both. So, not everything that can go wrong will go wrong.

My point? You are wrong. :P

We need to kill Mark Wahlberg, btw.

its gunna look and play like gta 4 which sucks

Its financially more logical for them to start out good, and leave a good impression on Rockstar. Max Payne recognised as iconic for Gaming in general. He defines action games like Duke Nukem does for me personally.

Its also one of the few Noir games availlable in the market.

I share the same concerns brother. Lets hope Rockstar doesn't screw up.

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It's too early to say.

its gunna look and play like gta 4 which sucks

Cornerstore

I cant find any screenshots or vids, where are you getting the GTAIV thing from?

1. It will look and play like GTA4

2. Max Payne 2 graphics will look better [they hold up very well even today]

3. sucky console gameplay. PC should have its own development team but these days thats wishful thinking.

4. a cover system [i'm not entirely against this but it has to be used intelliegntly with bullet time. it shoudnt make bullet time obsolete]

5. bullet time may not be expanded upon and will resort to the basic "shoot right click slo motion bang bang" system.

6. THE STORY! the games have always been heavy with story and gameplay and i feel that it may suffer.

7. no SAM LAKE [don't know about his involvement but i'm guessing he's doing Alan Wake aatm]

8. NO REMEDY

9. a quick cash in akin to Soldier of Fortune 3

10. the engine they use : dont know which engine they are using but as long as its not UE3 or RAGE i'm happy. But its likely its the latter.

11. Why does Max Payne look like the bastard child of Kane [from kane and lynch] and Sam Fisher [splinter cell]? I get that he's older and thats all good but i'm not entirely sold on the look...yet.

12.HIS VOICE! it has to be Mccafferey from the first 2 otherwise its gonna go downhill faaaaaaast.

crazyfist36

Looking at Bully and IV for the PC, you should be worried

Rockstar's key programmers left to work on APB back in 2005 in case your wondering what happened to the franchise after SA and Vice...

Kaelken