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#1 brandontwb
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My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!

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No graphics card?
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No graphics card?crazy-player
I'm using a 9500GT for now but will upgrade to an HD 4870 this year. Please answer the three questions I have ^^.
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2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)brandontwb
Yes, but it won't run in dual channel and it will run at the speed of the slowest RAM. If I were you, I'd look into a 2x2 kit instead. Or rather, a 1x1 kit and use the savings towards a better graphics card. It should work, but always flash the BIOS if it's not up to date. There's just no getting around that.
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My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!brandontwb

1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

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#7 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)d-rtyboy
Yes, but it won't run in dual channel and it will run at the speed of the slowest RAM. If I were you, I'd look into a 2x2 kit instead. Or rather, a 1x1 kit and use the savings towards a better graphics card. It should work, but always flash the BIOS if it's not up to date. There's just no getting around that.

Thanks for responding. The 3x1GB is actually saving me a bit of money so I'd rather stick with that. So overall what do you think of this system?
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)d-rtyboy

Yes, but it won't run in dual channel and it will run at the speed of the slowest RAM. If I were you, I'd look into a 2x2 kit instead. Or rather, a 1x1 kit and use the savings towards a better graphics card. It should work, but always flash the BIOS if it's not up to date. There's just no getting around that.

+1

I'd say its best ti get 4GB for AMD; you won't ever need anymore...The only reason to get 6GB is for Intel with Triple Channel.

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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!kilerchese

1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.
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The triple channel RAM is really meant for i7 as AM3 can't do triple channel. The RAM will work, just not in triple channel mode. It will also not do dual channel, unless you leave out one stick of RAM, but then you'd be better off getting a 1x1 kit. To be honest though, dual channel is overrated. It's about 5% performance boost, it's even less when it comes to frame rate. The only reason anyone gets it that way is because it's a convenient way of getting a 5% performance boost.
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[QUOTE="kilerchese"]1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

brandontwb

How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.

Core i7s use tripple channel RAM, meaning that THREE sticks are required for tripple channel operation. AMD CPUs still use Dual Channel RAM, meaning that only two sticks are required for Dual Channel Operation.

Having only three sticks of RAM in will cause none of the sticks to operate in Dual Channel because if one set of DIMM slots only have one stick then the set of DIMM slots that have two sticks of RAM will only work in single channel mode. Which will halve the performance of the RAM.

I don't know what you mean by the second question.....

If your talking about the PSU, PC P&C make literally the best PSUs in the world as far as I am aware and it is a SINGLE +12v Rail PSU. Meaning that none of the Amps are split up between multiple rails and provide enough power for video cards up to a GTX 280.

That PSU you linked in that post you had deleted, will work just fine as well.

Here is some RAM you should look at instead. The first stuff I posted was for Newegg.com, not CA. Didn't know you were in Canada.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227320

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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="kilerchese"]1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

kilerchese

How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.

Core i7s use tripple channel RAM, meaning that THREE sticks are required for tripple channel operation. AMD CPUs still use Dual Channel RAM, meaning that only two sticks are required for Dual Channel Operation.

Having only three sticks of RAM in will cause none of the sticks to operate in Dual Channel because if one set of DIMM slots only have one stick then the set of DIMM slots that have two sticks of RAM will only work in single channel mode. Which will halve the performance of the RAM.

I don't know what you mean by the second question.....

If your talking about the PSU, PC P&C make literally the best PSUs in the world as far as I am aware and it is a SINGLE +12v Rail PSU. Meaning that none of the Amps are split up between multiple rails and provide enough power for video cards up to a GTX 280.

Okay, but I'm considering an OCZ (80% eff, PFC cert) and it has 2 12vrails at 25A, rather than single 35A and 600W rather than 500W. $10 more.
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="kilerchese"]1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

kilerchese

How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.

Core i7s use tripple channel RAM, meaning that THREE sticks are required for tripple channel operation. AMD CPUs still use Dual Channel RAM, meaning that only two sticks are required for Dual Channel Operation.

Having only three sticks of RAM in will cause none of the sticks to operate in Dual Channel because if one set of DIMM slots only have one stick then the set of DIMM slots that have two sticks of RAM will only work in single channel mode. Which will halve the performance of the RAM.

I don't know what you mean by the second question.....

If your talking about the PSU, PC P&C make literally the best PSUs in the world as far as I am aware and it is a SINGLE +12v Rail PSU. Meaning that none of the Amps are split up between multiple rails and provide enough power for video cards up to a GTX 280.

That PSU you linked in that post you had deleted, will work just fine as well.

Here is some RAM you should look at instead. The first stuff I posted was for Newegg.com, not CA. Didn't know you were in Canada.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227320

$5 more for an extra GB? You're a lifesaver :D.
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My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!

brandontwb
Honestly you are buying soon to be obsolete technology. At least buy a intel quad core. AMD isn't really that great for gaming.
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retal

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!

King-Saddam

Honestly you are buying soon to be obsolete technology. At least buy a intel quad core. AMD isn't really that great for gaming.

What're you talking about? AMD is specifically good for gaming, he said he'd get the x4 one, and Core 2 Quads can't match a Phenom II X4 9x5...only the i7s can.

I'm not even an AMD-fan, but when people have a budget, AMD is perfect and outdoess Intel in Value(performance/Price).

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A 500W PSU will get pushed too hard for any system that has a GTX 280 in it, considering the 285 is more power efficient and still will make that PSU work over 80% load(assuming your system is good enough not bottleneck the GPU)
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[QUOTE="d-rtyboy"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)smc91352

Yes, but it won't run in dual channel and it will run at the speed of the slowest RAM. If I were you, I'd look into a 2x2 kit instead. Or rather, a 1x1 kit and use the savings towards a better graphics card. It should work, but always flash the BIOS if it's not up to date. There's just no getting around that.

+1

I'd say its best ti get 4GB for AMD; you won't ever need anymore...The only reason to get 6GB is for Intel with Triple Channel.

As long as it is dual channel, he can get theoretically 128GB of RAM and it won't hurt. So, 6 is for I7 systems, 8 is for phenoms, 12 is for I7, 16 is for phenoms. I personally use 6GB on a phenom now and I don't see anything wrong with it.

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[QUOTE="King-Saddam"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]

My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retal

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!

smc91352

Honestly you are buying soon to be obsolete technology. At least buy a intel quad core. AMD isn't really that great for gaming.

What're you talking about? AMD is specifically good for gaming, he said he'd get the x4 one, and Core 2 Quads can't match a Phenom II X4 9x5...only the i7s can.

I'm not even an AMD-fan, but when people have a budget, AMD is perfect and outdoess Intel in Value(performance/Price).

I am tired of even explaining... Listen to what smc said. And there is a great thread about it too:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=216514&page=1As you can see, PII is the best choice for gaming even vs the $1000 Intel chips and while using the outdated DDR2 memory.

I post that to all Intel fanboys to get them off my back. The whole thread is huge, but read the first page. (I7=PII)>Core2>Phenom in gaming. I7>PII>Core2>Phenom in compressing and rendering videos and other advnaced stuff. PII>I7>Phenom>Core2 in encryption, where AMD has always been strong in every test.

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[QUOTE="kilerchese"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!brandontwb

1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.

because triple-channel memory is only compatible with the Core i7 processor motherboards.
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="kilerchese"]

1: PC P&C 500w is more then enough to power s single GTX 280 I believe.

2: I would get some different RAM as the kit you picked is meant for i7 systems, not AMD Phenoms. I would suggest this ram. G.Skill DDR3-1333 2x2GB

3: Yes it will work out of the box without a BIOS upgrade.

UltimateGamer95

How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.

because triple-channel memory is only compatible with the Core i7 processor motherboards.

Sorry, but you got it all wrong :( Any memory that is DDR3 and works up to 1600MHz will be fully compatible with any AM3 and X58 motherboard, but the manufacturers sell it in a kit that is optimized for a specific platform (voltages etc.) and it is mostly only a marketing trick. The only difference is that 6GB will work in tripple channel on I7 and single channel on PII. Likewise, 8GB will work on single with an I7 and dual on PII. My OCZ gold kit also has an I7 logo and works perfectly.

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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]

My specs will be:

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

1. Will this PSU power a GPU with 36A on the 12V rail even though it is 35A?

Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS

MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!

King-Saddam
Honestly you are buying soon to be obsolete technology. At least buy a intel quad core. AMD isn't really that great for gaming.

AMD is great for gaming Pal because I've been using AMD CPU's for 5 years and they are extremely fast! AMD processors have always been built for gaming. The AMD athlon 64 processors smoked the pentium 4's back like 4 years ago. The Phenom 2 processors excel at gaming however the original Phenom CPU's do not so much. The Phenom 2 processors have an FSB of 2600 MHz unlike the Intel quad cores which have 1333 MHz.
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[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]How can you tell what CPU the RAM is made for? Also do you know how dual channel +12v rails work? I'm really sorry but I need these questions answered as this is my first build and I'm kinda nervous because this is a lot of money for me.Slig0

because triple-channel memory is only compatible with the Core i7 processor motherboards.

Sorry, but you got it all wrong :( Any memory that is DDR3 and works up to 1600MHz will be fully compatible with any AM3 and X58 motherboard, but the manufacturers sell it in a kit that is optimized for a specific platform (voltages etc.) and it is mostly only a marketing trick. The only difference is that 6GB will work in tripple channel on I7 and single channel on PII. Likewise, 8GB will work on single with an I7 and dual on PII. My OCZ gold kit also has an I7 logo and works perfectly.

well ok then. I guess it isn't worth arguing over spilled milk. sorry but I just noticed that the i7 boards were the only ones that had true triple-channel memory support. But even the triple-channel bandwidth doesn't seem to increase performance over DDR2 due to the high latencies of DDR3.
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#24 Slig0
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[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"] because triple-channel memory is only compatible with the Core i7 processor motherboards.UltimateGamer95

Sorry, but you got it all wrong :( Any memory that is DDR3 and works up to 1600MHz will be fully compatible with any AM3 and X58 motherboard, but the manufacturers sell it in a kit that is optimized for a specific platform (voltages etc.) and it is mostly only a marketing trick. The only difference is that 6GB will work in tripple channel on I7 and single channel on PII. Likewise, 8GB will work on single with an I7 and dual on PII. My OCZ gold kit also has an I7 logo and works perfectly.

well ok then. I guess it isn't worth arguing over spilled milk. sorry but I just noticed that the i7 boards were the only ones that had true triple-channel memory support. But even the triple-channel bandwidth doesn't seem to increase performance over DDR2 due to the high latencies of DDR3.

Yes, but it depends on board to support three channels, not the memory. A DDR3 memory stick will support anything based on which mobo you put it in. Currently only Intel's X58 chipset supports it.

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#25 UltimateGamer95
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[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"][QUOTE="Slig0"]

Sorry, but you got it all wrong :( Any memory that is DDR3 and works up to 1600MHz will be fully compatible with any AM3 and X58 motherboard, but the manufacturers sell it in a kit that is optimized for a specific platform (voltages etc.) and it is mostly only a marketing trick. The only difference is that 6GB will work in tripple channel on I7 and single channel on PII. Likewise, 8GB will work on single with an I7 and dual on PII. My OCZ gold kit also has an I7 logo and works perfectly.

Slig0

well ok then. I guess it isn't worth arguing over spilled milk. sorry but I just noticed that the i7 boards were the only ones that had true triple-channel memory support. But even the triple-channel bandwidth doesn't seem to increase performance over DDR2 due to the high latencies of DDR3.

Yes, but it depends on board to support three channels, not the memory. A DDR3 memory stick will support anything based on which mobo you put it in. Currently only Intel's X58 chipset supports it.

wow thanks man! now I know more about DDR3! Oh and by the way isn't smc growing and developing his knowledge well? Yes indeed my apprentice is learning quickly!