My new Gaming Rig Disapoints me ...PLZ check this out

(re post cause i posted in wrong topic)

Just bought a new rig , these are the specs :

-Core2duo E6600 2.4ghz

- 8600gts MSi Overclocked Edition 256mb ,CoreClock 800

- 2 gig ram

- 250 gig hard-drive

- Windows Vista

-450 watt(?) powersupplie

My question is , is it normal i get sluttering in these games :

-battlefield 2 on high i get fps drop for half a second every min the same with Day of defeat Source and CS Source but little less.

-The sims 2 when i zoom in and out i get 1 second slutter

- Oblivion on high i get, when outside good enought fps (40) but every min i get just a second or so a frame skip .

Is it Vista? , Should I go back to XP? ,

My ram is never fully used neither is my Cpu power ... I dont get it somone told me he had an ati x1650pro with vista and didnt get any lag at all ! So what is it??? Plz post up suggestions to clear this up, theyWILL be appriciated.

The GPU may be slowing you down a bit, it's not exactly the best. Those 8600 series are only 128 Bit, so I think you may want to try to lower You're settings a bit perhaps. But I would think that it can run CSS without problems, Personaly from what I have been told and have bought I would have gone with a X1950Pro or the like if you can affford an 8800 series.

Those mid-range 8 series realy do suck. I dont see any other parts in question, so I dont know what else it could be.

All of you guys pretty much lost your credibility when you say the 8600GTS is so horrible that it can't play those games on high-max settings.

Try getting the latest drivers or try the beta drivers.

What resolution are you playing at?

I did get all the new Drivers, the New Beta Driver for windows Vista that got out the 11th of July,

I'm Not saying its a bad card , maybe its not even the card.

hmm I always thought Vista had something to do with it ... It's a job all reinstalling Xp tho ...:?samu99

Yea, but its worth it, until More vista games come out, keep XP

The 8600GTS shouldn't be struggling with BF2 or the Sims. Oblivion, maybe, but still...

What resolution are you gaming at?

I run it at a decent 1024x768 or something , it's not that high right? I am thinking of dual booting seriously , but whatta job..samu99

You should be creaming that resolution, honestly.

Hm... Try that dual booting solution or a different set of drivers.

you should check the jumpers on your drives, see if anything is overheating, and make sure everything is getting enough voltage.

If your computer is set up properly, and is 100% stable, you shouldn't get any stuttering or skipping.

If your using a sata1 drive with a sata2 controller setting the 150mbs jumper might help stuttering, If its a ide drive, some mother boards don't like cable select, setting master/slave can smooth things out. sometimes the other way around.

Indeed it is, I agree with the two abouve posters, that card is not at all good. If your in a pickle with the prices, may i recomend a DX9 card suck as the 7900gt or the 1900xtx.Samulies

I didn't know CD/DVD/HD drives still used jumpers... I didn't see any on the back of mine...
HostileEffect

DX9 games should be play on XP, while DX10 for Vista, so its better to have a dual boot option. Install XP first on one partition, then install Vista on a separate partition. Oh, and I don't think the 8600GTS is going to cut it, atleast 8800gts 320mb.

I did get all the new Drivers, the New Beta Driver for windows Vista that got out the 11th of July,

I'm Not saying its a bad card , maybe its not even the card.

samu99

I agree, The 860GTS is a decent card for a budget builder and shouldn't be having problems witht eh Sims 2 or BF2.

The GPU may be slowing you down a bit, it's not exactly the best. Those 8600 series are only 128 Bit, so I think you may want to try to lower You're settings a bit perhaps. But I would think that it can run CSS without problems, Personaly from what I have been told and have bought I would have gone with a X1950Pro or the like if you can affford an 8800 series.

Those mid-range 8 series realy do suck. I dont see any other parts in question, so I dont know what else it could be.

VaioAS

I hear this too often, and it's usually not the issue, especially here. Most of the time it's a simple bottleneck or slight conflict. My original X1650 Pro system was running CrossFire and the frame rates were incredibly sluggish. Someone told me that my cards sucked, but after some benchmarking and diagnostic testing, I discovered that one of the graphic cards was not in sync with the other. I had to manually apply the monitor driver to both cards even though only one was connected. Then I matched refresh rates with my monitor and cards. The performance increase was huge, and games that ran sloppy had performed without a hitch. I ended up upgrading my cards to XT anyway.

I clearly see now that Vista seems to be the problem with my sluttering issues , what I will do is uninstall Vista and boot up Xp . if i see its possible and not too much trouble I will dual boot Vsita with XP. Thx for help guys !samu99

Don't get carried away. Vista shouldn't cause you ANY problems with a rig like that. All these haters have probably never used Vista before.

I think your 450W PSU just isn't powerful enough.

(re post cause i posted in wrong topic)

Just bought a new rig , these are the specs :

-Core2duo E6600 2.4ghz

- 8600gts MSi Overclocked Edition 256mb ,CoreClock 800

- 2 gig ram

- 250 gig hard-drive

- Windows Vista

-450 watt(?) powersupplie

My question is , is it normal i get sluttering in these games :

-battlefield 2 on high i get fps drop for half a second every min the same with Day of defeat Source and CS Source but little less.

-The sims 2 when i zoom in and out i get 1 second slutter

- Oblivion on high i get, when outside good enought fps (40) but every min i get just a second or so a frame skip .

Is it Vista? , Should I go back to XP? ,

My ram is never fully used neither is my Cpu power ... I dont get it somone told me he had an ati x1650pro with vista and didnt get any lag at all ! So what is it??? Plz post up suggestions to clear this up, theyWILL be appriciated.

samu99

Dude my comp totally slutters... :D

[QUOTE="samu99"]I think your 450W PSU just isn't powerful enough.

Zeke129

True. Although this is pushing it, the PSU should still suffice depending on the other devices connected.

So I have had lots of suggetions , - Vista is the problem

- Not enought cpu , overclock from 2.4 to about 3.2

-somthing about the hardrive

-the video card not being good enought

- not enought power in power supply (i have 450w)

-some overheating issues

I will try tomorow windows Xp and post up if it fixed my ''slutering'' in games , I tryed overclocking my Cpu but I get the blue screen of death when I overclock it , I don't think its my video card neither my power supply... When i play bf2 i noticed SOMETIMES when I wait 5 mins I can play at high and 16x anti-aliazing and 16x antisotrpic without lagging but other times medium settings will start lagging ... ne ways ill try Xp , thx for help guys

[QUOTE="Zeke129"]

[QUOTE="samu99"]I think your 450W PSU just isn't powerful enough.

Snaptrap

True. Although this is pushing it, the PSU should still suffice depending on the other devices connected.

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[QUOTE="samu99"]I clearly see now that Vista seems to be the problem with my sluttering issues , what I will do is uninstall Vista and boot up Xp . if i see its possible and not too much trouble I will dual boot Vsita with XP. Thx for help guys !Zeke129

Don't get carried away. Vista shouldn't cause you ANY problems with a rig like that. All these haters have probably never used Vista before.

I think your 450W PSU just isn't powerful enough.

I agree with this one. Give it more juice. I also agree with the GeForce comments. I saw a while back don't buy anything less than an X800 in a GeForce series, and I've seen it first hand. It's not the first number in the series that makes it any good, it's the second! I literally had a noticeable 2x increase from a 7600 to 7900. I can only imagine the same would be true for the 8000 series...

guys guys ! the problem is SOLVED , I reformated and installed XP and now with XP everything is as smooth as butter!!! BF2 works real good even on 16xanti iliasing and 16x antisotropic on all high , sims 2 ...no more sluttering lol and no more random fps changes ! thx for advice . Windows Vista is a very nice thing , it looks really sexy , but is NOT ready for gamming , atleast not for me ...

my new rig works YAHoouuu!

Indeed it is, I agree with the two abouve posters, that card is not at all good. If your in a pickle with the prices, may i recomend a DX9 card suck as the 7900gt or the 1900xtx.Samulies

The 8600 will run any of those games maxxed out............it must be his drivers or something. He should have no problems whatsoever with BF2.