My Personal Perspective on Piracy.

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#1 OoSuperMarioO
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Hey look another Piracy thread. I experienced time and time again these threads can be lost with irrelevant arguments with no real solutions, myself included. This is nothing more then a opinion and it should be taking with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, lets get started shall we?

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Certainly the PC platform is a wonderful platform home to a large number of astounding games. While in the past, many can agree the focus years ago for a majority of Gamers were single player experiences with an addition to LAN play. On came the 1990s with the evolution of expansion in computer networking which radically expanded the Internet for on demand entertainment. The advantage of Online gaming has evolved Multiplayer gaming into an online social networking environment associating online communities.

.....This was certainly going in the direction of a long analyst like the absolute majority I've seen for Piracy discussion, but everyone must understand to support the the things you admire. The faults of Piracy are already introducing Online Governce to control what you do to capitalize controlment on the Internet which In my opinion is a complete disaster entirely. Another result of Piracy are developers distributing poor ports to reflect their attention is dedicate to consoles. At the core this is a business and developers need to obtain profit to be relevant to distribute games in the future. If you participate in gaming piracy I ask you this, why destroy your own platform buds? Listen, we are all gamers on this board where we chat/talk here for a reason, and that's for the enjoyment of what PC Gaming brings to us. If free entertainment is what you desire then there are always street performers free of charge though donations are acceptable. Nevertheless, PC Gaming is marvelous!

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#2 True_Sounds
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Gamespot is no place to debate piracy, because if anyone supports it or names positive reasons or acceptable reasons for piracy they will be breaking terms of service. Sorry but I don't see a point in posting your opinion in a place where noone could disagree with it if they wanted to.

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#3 simardbrad
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yep this place is as censored as the soviet union when it comes to the topic of piracy, so you won't get any real responses.

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#4 Tyson8earzz
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there are always 5-10 new piracy threads per day and they always say the same old things. its a debate thats endless and will always go full circle. frankly these topics are getting old and stale. no one can voice their true opinions here so it doesnt matter
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#5 OoSuperMarioO
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Thus why I twist the discussion of it. Piracy is a topic with no end in arguments. What's important however is for people to become aware of the issue. This thread was also for a bit of sacarsm with no intention of the usual Piracy discussion seen overly on the Internet.

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#6 Macutchi
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Gamespot is no place to debate piracy, because if anyone supports it or names positive reasons or acceptable reasons for piracy they will be breaking terms of service. Sorry but I don't see a point in posting your opinion in a place where noone could disagree with it if they wanted to.

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#7 nocturial
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the fact is that there is no solution to piracy, it was always present evev at the very begining of the gaming industry and it always will be... it's an issue without any practical solution, tracking down and banning users that use p2p software is violating people's privacy, DRM is useless, Direct2Drive distribution only is pointless too... and it's not only present on the PC as most of the people think, but on all gaming platforms including handhelds. I think that even debating the piracy issue is just a waste of time. People know exactly what are they doing and until they stop there is no solution.

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#8 Cdscottie
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One thing thing I'm surprised a lot of developers still don't do to this day is the "One online account per CD-Key". This normally stops casual piracy as it causes the said person to seek out other avenues to play online such as Hamachi servers or cracked Global catalog servers. Both of which does not guarantee many players and can have issues. To this degree, most people who truly want to play the game online will have to take the plunge and purchase the game. But hey, if all developers do this their games will start receiving 1 Star ratings all over the place and the whine-mobile will start chugging.
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#9 Poshkidney
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I think piracy is just and excuse for laziness on the development side or PC games are being slowly being fazed out so we'll all have gaming toasters sorry consoles.

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I think everyone knows my stance on the subject...
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the fact is that there is no solution to piracy, it was always present evev at the very begining of the gaming industry and it always will be... it's an issue without any practical solution, tracking down and banning users that use p2p software is violating people's privacy, DRM is useless, Direct2Drive distribution only is pointless too... and it's not only present on the PC as most of the people think, but on all gaming platforms including handhelds. I think that even debating the piracy issue is just a waste of time. People know exactly what are they doing and until they stop there is no solution.

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Piracy should be viewed as the cost of doing business. Say you have a physical shop, for example you sell clothes. You have to accept that you'll be stealed occasionally, either by your own employees or buy "creative" customers that find ways of bypassing your security measures. With games or software in general it's the same, there will always be some degree of piracy.

Now, this doesn't mean companies shouldn't try to protect their property, they have every right to do so. For example, if you sell clothes you can setup cameras, security guards, etc. What companies shouldn't do is harrass EVERY legitimate customer, and that's precisely what the latest form of DRM does. Say you have a clothes shop and you decide the best way to avoid stealing is to force every customer to empty their purse when they exit the store, I'm sure people wouldn't react very nicely!

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#12 TheBigBadGRIM
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[QUOTE="nocturial"]

the fact is that there is no solution to piracy, it was always present evev at the very begining of the gaming industry and it always will be... it's an issue without any practical solution, tracking down and banning users that use p2p software is violating people's privacy, DRM is useless, Direct2Drive distribution only is pointless too... and it's not only present on the PC as most of the people think, but on all gaming platforms including handhelds. I think that even debating the piracy issue is just a waste of time. People know exactly what are they doing and until they stop there is no solution.

nunovlopes

This.

Piracy should be viewed as the cost of doing business. Say you have a physical shop, for example you sell clothes. You have to accept that you'll be stealed occasionally, either by your own employees or buy "creative" customers that find ways of bypassing your security measures. With games or software in general it's the same, there will always be some degree of piracy.

Now, this doesn't mean companies shouldn't try to protect their property, they have every right to do so. For example, if you sell clothes you can setup cameras, security guards, etc. What companies shouldn't do is harrass EVERY legitimate customer, and that's precisely what the latest form of DRM does. Say you have a clothes shop and you decide the best way to avoid stealing is to force every customer to empty their purse when they exit the store, I'm sure people wouldn't react very nicely!

Agreed, legitimate customers shouldn't be treated like animals because of a few bad apples.
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Hey guess what: When you were shown that movie at school, your teacher was breaking copyright laws; when you borrowed that cd off a friend and made a copy, you were breaking copyright laws; most of the songs you listened to on youtube were in violation of copyright laws. There's an enormous amount of hypocrisy in selectively chastising software piracy.
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#14 Cdscottie
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Hey guess what: When you were shown that movie at school, your teacher was breaking copyright laws; when you borrowed that cd off a friend and made a copy, you were breaking copyright laws; most of the songs you listened to on youtube were in violation of copyright laws. There's an enormous amount of hypocrisy in selectively chastising software piracy.jimmyjammer69
Yes it is all copyright infringement that you have listed. Thing is, the teacher was at fault with the movie, youtube holds the responsibility for all of the videos on their site. The only one that would come back at you in the CD that a person gets off of their friend.
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#15 StealthKing93
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You can't talk about anything here...shhh!